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Deniss Vasiljevs

When after Euros 2018 I was sharing in this thread my hope that Deniss would take the place of Javi after his retirement, it wasn't exactly what I was thinking of... :laugh:. But it's cute :luv17:.
 
Tonight I watched both Deniss’ programs again. I must say I really liked them very much! It seems to me that he performed more expressively, more enthusiastically and more attractively than at EURO. In fact, he is a real “perpetum mobile”, especially in SP.

I love this boy immensely, no matter he does a quad or falls, because watching his performances makes me feel deeply the beauty, elegance and attractiveness of figure skating, as well as the dynamics of the movements, the physical possibilities. :love::love::love: All this is very important to me in this kind of sport. He is not the only one, but it cannot be said about many.

But can anyone tell me why many good athletes can't deal with quads. Deniss's fall seemed extremely painful and I was worried! And what about 3A? It seemed so strange. :scratch2:

It is a pity that Lavenderblossom no longer posts, but maybe there is someone else who understands such stuff. Of course, in case you have some spare time.

But anyway, looking at the beautiful pictures where he has this amiable smile on face, I have a feeling that in Japan we will see something really adorable! Last year it happened! Why no this year!? :hap10:
 
I agree with you, AgnesR, that Deniss is a rare bird in that he is always very exciting to watch even with errors. He just exudes passion and he never lets the performance go by the wayside. As for the jumps, I guess it could be that Stephane's school hasn't quite found the right formula for teaching jump technique yet. It would not be a bad idea to work with other specialists, if there is an opportunity to bring someone in. At the essence of the problem, I think there is still a lack of confidence and a psychological block. Even skaters with very good technique on the most difficult jumps can doubt themselves at times - I know Boyang spoke about this recently. So if you haven't yet proven you can do it in competition, imagine how much more nerve-wracking it must be!

Maybe it would be better for Deniss to devote a bit more time over the summer to concentrate on jumps rather than doing too many shows. Being a high level athlete is such a tough balancing act - you have to stay healthy and maintain a certain physique, you have to earn money to keep up the training, and you have to keep up the motivation and energy to improve, all while not getting burned out. I'll always wish that all the stars can align for Deniss at some point, but have come to simply hope we can enjoy his performances for a long time to come, in whatever form. The small victories also seem a little bit sweeter to me when you cannot take them for granted. I hope that makes sense...:)
 
But can anyone tell me why many good athletes can't deal with quads. Deniss's fall seemed extremely painful and I was worried! And what about 3A? It seemed so strange. :scratch2:

I'll try to share some of my observations.

There are three important elements of a jump: height (the higher a jump is, the easier is to do multiple rotations), rotation speed (the faster rotation is, the easier is to do more rotations), safe landing. And:
1. the smaller a skater is, the higher they can jump in relation to their height
2. the slimmer a skater is (has smaller girth), the faster rotation can achieve
3. the shorter legs in relation to their height a skater has, the safer their landing is.
I would say that Deniss' body features are quite the opposite to the above: he's quite tall (for a skater), broad-shouldered and his legs are one of the longest in the business.
Is it to overcome? Sure, Adam Rippon has similar body feature and could jump 4T and 4Lz. Was it easy? No, and his rate of execution wasn't really high. And his frustration that his body betrayed him was immense.
The solution is to maximize the legs' strength and to build a muscle corset and that's what Deniss has been visibly working on.

But there're more problems.

Muscles are heavy, so a skater weight increase. Weight changes (even by half a kilo) makes significant impact on jumps (the same for height). Some skaters can deal with it quite easily, some not.

Younger skater can learn new jumps easier. Recently quite young kids are taught quads (while Deniss was taught 3A only at 15/16 and when other skaters got their quads, he was seriously injured and had to work hard to got his triples back; and then was the Olympics year and the priority was to skate clean and safe). Ghislain Briand (who is one of the best jump coach and was invited to Champery last year) said (reportedly) that if a skater doesn't jump quads till the age of 18, it's almost impossible to teach them later. On the other hand there were many skaters who started to jump quads in their 20. So... time will tell.

The jump fear makes skaters to avoid/pop difficult jumps. Fear of pain, fear of injury, or just fear of failure. It's very common and many skaters deal with it, of various reasons. I don't say that it's Deniss' case, but living in Switzerland as a foreigner with no regular income makes Deniss' situation quite difficult when it comes to medical treatment costs so he can be careful because of that. Stephane's been calling it "a blockade". In Innsbruck Deniss fell several time really painfully but he didn't pop so I hope his blockade is a past.

Last but not least factor: amount of training. The more the better one can tell, but how many exercises a skater can do with no overloading/injury/stress fracture etc.? Stephane seems to be careful and concerned coach so he put some limits while (as I saw at EC) Deniss would like to practice more. So I must say I was relieved seeing Deniss healthy and in good shape at Cup of Tyrol...

OK, I'm sorry for this excessively long post, but AgnesR's question was something I was thinking of for many months lately... For me Deniss' skating is so outstanding that I personally don't need any quads... On the other hand, his quads landed in practice are HUGE and really beautiful! Wish him to land them all at competitions since now.

Oh, and 3A. I'm not sure why, but apparently extensive work on quads makes 3A harder to jump than previously.
 
Thanks you Icetug for your long explanation for the scientific knowledge behind jumps....I would agree that only time could tell what will happen next.
As for the Quads, it is what Deniss wants and what he needs in order to achieve his requirements and expectations that he put upon himself. Therefore as a fan, I fully support him, as long as his physical and mental health are in good condition....
What is worried me the most is the financial problem. Let’s face it, figure skating is a REALLY expensive sport, he needs to participate the ice shows in order to sustain his training (and it probably still not enough)....though it may be physically tired and may influence in his preparation toward competitions. So I really feels relief when reading his interview about being empowered by the audiences’ response from shows. At least it can somehow have some positive impact on him....
Anyway , just ....hope him all the best :finger-cross
 
:thank: , icetug and silverfoxes, ever so much for such a profound explanation. A lot of it was new to me and made me change my point of view about some aspects.

Well, nothing much to add. But we know that Deniss will do his best.

The news that he can land a beautiful quad really rejoices me! :clapper:

Finances! Finances! What a tought problem! The previous season I guess he got some reward for the 4th and 6th places. Let's see what happens next year.


Pianomaya65
, your close-up shots from trainings show what a motherly coach Stephane is! :) His considerate and sparing attitude protects his students from serious injuries!

Let’s hope that judges at Santama will have learned the +/- 5 system and will appreciate the benefits Deniss has! Not all skaters with shorter legs can do what he can (joking) :pray:
 
Worlds practice starts on Monday. Deniss is in the group no 2, together with Yuzuru, Shoma, Keiji and Igor Reznichenko from Poland. What's great, it means a lot of photos!!!
First practice is scheduled at 8:05 am (Japanese time, what means 0:05 CET...). Hope he is either in Japan right now or on his way, to avoid jet lag :pray:.
 
Deniss is going to include 4T not only in FS, but also in SP :scard7:

Planned content:
SP: 3A, 4T, 3Lz+3T
FS: 4T, 3A+3T, 3A, 3Lo+2T, 3Lz+1Eu+3S, 3Lz, 3F

OK, if I could send some power to Saitama, I'd start my transmission right now ;) I really want him to land all the jumps perfectly :pray:.
 
According to Jackie Wong the live practice as the minute is a crowd of spectators... and Deniss :laugh:
 
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