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Do costumes augment or detract?

Never as silly as trying to look bare legged on the ice. I still wonder why some kind of mad simpleton came up with the idea of wearing skin tone tights in chilly/cold temperatures. :whack:

This is my beef with over-the-boot tights. I don't actually mind them that much, but why do you want to look like you're bare-footed on ice?
 
I'm not a big fan of the "white shirt + black trousers". Last competition I watched, during the warm-up, I thought the camera had reverted to black and white TV, because every single man on the ice was wearing that exact same costume...
That said, I know that plenty on this forum seem to adore it. I don't think anybody's right or wrong about it, it's just personnal taste.
I'm not going to be hypocritical, because it's true that sometimes I'd love to see my favourite skaters do their program in those skin-tight black outfits (but that's what practice sessions are for :love:).

Generally speaking, I like colours, I like a little bling as long as it goes with the costume, I like seeing costumes that make me feel I haven't seen them a thousand times before.

I also kinda like horrendously ugly costumes, because it's always fun to try to out-do your friends about how horrendous the costume really is :rofl:.

All in all, I'd say that for me the costumes mostly augment.
 
I agree about the detailing.

But the color is tricky. In the U.S., the color yellow has negative associations ("yellow-bellied"), although envy and jealousy are more green than yellow. Throughout Asia (Asian posters please correct this if I am wrong :) ), and especially in China, yellow is a very positive color signifying good luck, heath, wealth and royalty. (If your name is Huang, Wong, etc., you are Mr. or Ms. Yellow.)

I don't think there is any association of the color yellow with sadness, regret, etc., which are the focus of Send in the Clowns. So in this case, although Yuna was never lovelier :love: , I don't think that the dress served the program as well as blue or violet would have.

Or for that matter, this. Come on, give it a chance. "Isn't it rich?…"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ligchsd3l21qeh41y.jpg

That's true, colour symbolism can be deceiving, especially across cultures – black vs. white for mourning, for example. In any case the yellow/chartreuse was a bold and unusual (and evidently polarising!) choice, which perhaps helped draw attention to the subtleties of the song. (And let's just thank [unspecified, non-denominational deity] it wasn't a clown costume.)
 
This is my beef with over-the-boot tights. I don't actually mind them that much, but why do you want to look like you're bare-footed on ice?

To me, it's not the barefooted look but rather that you look like you broke your ankle and it never healed right.

Ordinary Person isn't objecting to that so much as to the immodesty and appearance of nudity in ladies' figure skating costumes.
 
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....Uhm, after watching diving and synchro swimming in Rio, my perspective on modesty issues in skating costumes has been revised.

But would like to drop a reflective thought on whether training-wear is really inherently more modest. Granted nude coloured tights and illusion fabric intentionally create an illusion of lack of coverage, but a black body hugging training catsuit, usually in black, on a young women doesn't bring to mind the word "modest" to me.
 
I dunno, maybe i was raised wrong, but I don't see the "modesty" issue. In fact, this sort of concern weirds me out.

Like once i met a guy that told me that FS is a dirty naughty thing, with ladies spreading their legs to judges and and guys grabbing their female partners tights in pairs. This description of FS made me wonder if he was also one of those people who put fig leaves on classical statues and that sort of things.

Plain weird.
 
I dunno, maybe i was raised wrong, but I don't see the "modesty" issue. In fact, this sort of concern weirds me out.

Hi Moriel,

I'm with you, I think. I never really think about modesty issues until someone, usually inevitably from outside the skating world, makes some comment about wanting to come down and watch the girls "practice in their outfits"...Makes me uncomfortable to hear and glad that there is a wall of parents who know each other in the stands or at the windows.

Likewise, the I find the comment about the judges that you heard was creepy. But was clearly made by someone who'd never been close to the rapid replay reviews on a judges' stand.

Not sure whether we should think of skating costuming as that different that ballet or gymnastics. Whatever the origin of the trend, in my mind there's always been an analogy to dance attire. The "ice follies" are a thing of the past, but performance is still integral to the sport, and costumes with that IMO.

I can't imagine safely anyone doing triple-triples in a long dress, and my point below is that unitards seem destined to draw no less inappropriate attention than a short skirted dress with illusion panels. IMO the reality of unseemliness is occasional, and often the result of unfortunate calls in the video production booth. (The cameras get every angle for the judges' analysis, but they have choice about which view to use for broadcast.)
 
But then, too, we have to wonder why ladies are (all but) required to wear flesh colored tights and short skirts while men are forbidden by ISU rule to wear tights or shorts or sleeveless shirts or open collars that show too much of their chests.
 
But then, too, we have to wonder why ladies are (all but) required to wear flesh colored tights and short skirts while men are forbidden by ISU rule to wear tights or shorts or sleeveless shirts or open collars that show too much of their chests.

Because the sport (or rather, those in charge of it) is (are) terrified of looking gay.
 
But then, too, we have to wonder why ladies are (all but) required to wear flesh colored tights and short skirts while men are forbidden by ISU rule to wear tights or shorts or sleeveless shirts or open collars that show too much of their chests.

I suppose that may be some weird modesty issue, btw =)
 
But then, too, we have to wonder why ladies are (all but) required to wear flesh colored tights and short skirts while men are forbidden by ISU rule to wear tights or shorts or sleeveless shirts or open collars that show too much of their chests.

I just wish this type of look was the standard ladies outfit. I think it's perfect for athletics and still offers a stylish look to it.

https://pp.vk.me/c7002/v7002063/1f15a/hGN566TvDis.jpg
 
I just wish this type of look was the standard ladies outfit. I think it's perfect for athletics and still offers a stylish look to it.

https://pp.vk.me/c7002/v7002063/1f15a/hGN566TvDis.jpg

Interesting perspective. This one speaks dance training wear for me. Sounds like we share the dance wear aesthetic. But one of the factors floating in this discussion is whether the clothes are appropriate for a winter sport, even indoors.

Not sure why leg warmers would be needed if the pant/legging was insulated. At cold arenas, that top would only be sufficient during the intensity of a 30 minute stroking session. At warm ones, the leggings would be too much in my experience. And I had enough trouble keeping them up doing jazz dance, I just can't quite see it for freeskate.
 
No sarcasm intended. Sonja Henie took figure skating to Hollywood and, pretty much single-handedly, turned it into a glamour girl thing. She really was worth $50,000,000 when she died in 1969, and that really was before today's standard where every prominent athlete signs a multimillion dollar contract.

Shows like the Ice Follies were suddenly popular and profitable, which were essentially Las Vegas girly and variety shows on ice.

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/0052960ce...-show-is-the-dream-of-many-a-young-b4xf70.jpg

(The name of this picture, if it doesn't show, is "A place in the chorus line of a big ice show is the dream of many a young girl."

Costumewise, the sport of ice skating never recovered. For decades it continued to be marketed as a beauty display. (Plus, skating moved indoors so getting cold wasn't so much of a factor.)


That's fascinating, my apoligies for the misunderstanding though, i really thought you were joking about Sonja getting money just for skating with her bare legs in the cold.
It's very sad that the sport never did recover regarding the look of costumes, however i still have faith. :)


This is my beef with over-the-boot tights. I don't actually mind them that much, but why do you want to look like you're bare-footed on ice?


That's true, but the whole bare foot issue basically has to do with trying to look like you're barelegged, which means if you aren't wearing skin tone tights you'd never look bare-footed right?


But then, too, we have to wonder why ladies are (all but) required to wear flesh colored tights and short skirts while men are forbidden by ISU rule to wear tights or shorts or sleeveless shirts or open collars that show too much of their chests.


That's what's been bugging me ever since i stopped skating and watching competitions, i really really really wish they changed te dress code. Speaking of which, i'm impressed you totally get what i mean.


I just wish this type of look was the standard ladies outfit. I think it's perfect for athletics and still offers a stylish look to it.

https://pp.vk.me/c7002/v7002063/1f15a/hGN566TvDis.jpg


I wish these types of looks were the standard ladies outfit.


http://amymantravadi.com/wp-content...r_FS_Adelina_Sotnikova-David-W-Carmichael.jpg

http://www.gymfan.de/bild/454400

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWgmcCd6w3Y&index=37&list=PLB89A1747BF825EFD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ctClvH-zg&index=24&list=PLB89A1747BF825EFD


You don't need skin on your costumes to stand out, that's my point.
 
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This is my beef with over-the-boot tights. I don't actually mind them that much, but why do you want to look like you're bare-footed on ice?

For me over the boots tights were a security/safety thing. I was always surprised that some skaters could stand to wear footed tights that left the laces bare. Even though I would put the loops of the bow over the hooks and tuck the ends under the other lines I needed the second layer of tights that fitted over the top of the boot for warmth and to feel that the laces were secure. Full over the boot tights would get sliced up all the time and look awful but the ones that just go over the top were perfect. Not only did they take longer to get destroyed but the barely noticeable tightness at the ankle was perfect. I imagine that's why so many skaters prefer some form material that goes over the top part of the boot.

I've read quite a few comments on GS about the lines being broken but I've never understood that because to me the top of the boot being uncovered makes things look clunky and over the boot tights make thinks look more flowy. In regard to the completely over the boot tights making you look bare-footed I think that's just what some people end up thinking because it's the same material and therefore color for the whole pair of tights. The real reason was because it's a better way of ensuring laces stay where they're supposed to and is more secure.
 
If wearing over the boots tights does not make sense because it is an ice sport... then the entire concept of dress costumes should be reconsidered. I do not mind over-the-boots when the boot is not much thicker than the leg, but appreciate more when the boots completely show.

How do you guys feel about beige boots?
 
I hate the way some ladies are wearing the tights over the boots in a way that makes their feet look like horses' hoofs. The WORST look ever!
 
For tights- to me either go completely over the boot or not at all, it makes the skaters legs look odd.
 
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