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Does "level hunting" kill the beauty of figure skating?

TallyT

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Absolute peak Kostornaia and her ilk are pretty well exactly what I was talking about when I used the word 'pretend'. Yes, Loena is currently one of officialdom's favourites and overscored accordingly, but what is sauce for one gander...
 
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Karoltyna

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Absolute peak Kostornaia and her ilk are pretty well exactly what I was talking about when I used the word 'pretend'. Yes, Loena is currently one of officialdom's favourites and overscored accordingly, but what is sauce for one gander...
I like Loena, but still can't understand why she was over Katia in Shanghai...
 

Anna K.

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That's the problem with top skaters. When they receive higher PCS than everybody else, people instantly complain that they have been overscored. When they do not receive higher PCS than everybody else, people instantly complain that they have been underscored.
If you are a judge who wants to stay out of trouble, better call sick before the last warmup group.

This is all, I repeat, all because of lack of clarity in PCS judgement
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TallyT

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That's the problem with top skaters. When they receive higher PCS than everybody else, people instantly complain that they have been overscored. When they do not receive higher PCS than everybody else, people instantly complain that they have been underscored.
Depends on the skater in question. Let's just leave it at that....
 

Rebecca Moose

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Not to worry, with the continuous degradation of her jumps and offensively dire programa, Miss Hendrickx's days of receiving inflated PCS are numbered.
 

Anna K.

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Not to worry, with the continuous degradation of her jumps and offensively dire programa, Miss Hendrickx's days of receiving inflated PCS are numbered.
No sooner than she falls out of the last warm-up group though.
That's the rule. You forgot about the rules!
 

liv

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I'd ban the pair lift position ( relatively newer position, i think, not many do it... maybe the Georgians did it? My brain forgot the names atm)where the girl lies on her back with legs wide apart while he balances her. To me it's like here, here's my crotch. Really bad aesthetic. The split lift is way overdone but it's a bit classier...
 

Diana Delafield

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I'd ban the pair lift position ( relatively newer position, i think, not many do it... maybe the Georgians did it? My brain forgot the names atm)where the girl lies on her back with legs wide apart while he balances her. To me it's like here, here's my crotch. Really bad aesthetic. The split lift is way overdone but it's a bit classier...
That lift position was briefly popular a few decades back and mercifully died out, but seems to have been revived. I don't remember if it was CBC or CTV who had the contract then to broadcast competitions on Canadian TV, but there was a directive to the cameramen: No crotch shots. Too many complaints from viewers. If a pair was coming right at the camera, the operator had to quickly shift to a closeup of the man's face, or some other polite angle.
 

moonvine

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This years special thing is jump during spin or when going out from a spin. I hate it.

In pairs lifts are so ugly it is not any more favourite discipline. I would change one lift in FS to side by side spin. I love pairs' spins.

I am not even fan of little girls jumping too much. Basic skills should become first. An I will never understand why presentation is combined to difficulty of the performance.
It bothered me for a long time and still sometimes I think I can see them counting levels in their heads. But it’s been so long I’m starting to forget how it was before.
 

Ladskater

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I like all the little hops being added to the choreography. I like how some of the skaters like Ilia M can hop up on the back of their blade after the spin. Ted Barton explained that because Ilia M has raised the bar on jumping the other skaters have to find a way to compete with him and the other "quad gods". Figure skating has always been about edges and control. It's great to see skaters finding ways to make their programs interesting and challenging.
 

Diana Delafield

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I like all the little hops being added to the choreography. I like how some of the skaters like Ilia M can hop up on the back of their blade after the spin. Ted Barton explained that because Ilia M has raised the bar on jumping the other skaters have to find a way to compete with him and the other "quad gods". Figure skating has always been about edges and control. It's great to see skaters finding ways to make their programs interesting and challenging.
The spin on the back of the blade is borrowed from quad artistic roller skating. The best ones move back and forth on their wheels, front/back/side/four, as they change spin positions.
 
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