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Dress drama aside, I liked some of the changes I could see from that offensively microscopic camera angle - seriously, I feel like I could have stood outside my apartment in Florida and gotten a better view - did she land the 3A in the short? I can't be sure from the missing frames while she was in the air, but it wasn't with a tano, so I'm thinking she went for it. If it was 3.5 revolutions, it was very well done, and I liked her switching the combo with the lutz; putting the combo on the back end is certainly audacious, but not super necessary if the axel's working. Couldn't see how the lutz went, but I assume there was the error if she only got ~60 points. From the score I'm guessing the FS was more problematic, but not the worst outing.
 
Wait...what? One triple in the free with a guest appearance by a 2s-1a sequence. Hmm......

I'm thinking this was mostly intentional....right?
 
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Honestly, those photos are out there and some of them are attached to reputable or at least quasi reputable news sites. They are not going away. I don't see the point in not linking to news articles, even if they have these pictures attached, and while I realize people's motives and feelings are good, I don't honestly know that it accomplishes anything not to link to just photos themselves either unless someone is doing it with malice, which I just don't think is the case here.

Hopefully the costume will be fixed absolutely ASAP. It is just beautiful and I've wanted to see her in something like it for a long time, but quite obviously, not everything that should be covered is covered at this point.


True photos are out already.
I'm not the author and not the one who posted them online.
I do not have any connection with the authors I was just :eekn: when I found them on the net so I posted the links here.

The first link i found it reading the Russian figure skating (where the topic is taken with amusement) forum, I cant delete this photo as I'm not the one who posted it,
the second link is to the newspaper Oslobodenje (the oldest newspaper in Bosnia and Herzegovina as I'm reading on the net: founded on 30 August 1943 as an anti-Nazi newspaper; In 1993, they got the Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought and later the Honor Medal from the School of Journalism in Columbia, Missouri for continuous publication of the daily newspaper throughout the 1992-1995 siege of Sarajevo (source wikipedia)) where the author of the photo is quoted.

P.S.: I changed my original post a little. That's all on this topic. :biggrin:
 
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Aw, sorry to see Liza struggling, but I trust Mishin's judgement. I have faith in Liza next season. Just curious- have any of the recent interviews mentioned whether it is a physical problem, such as long-term exhaustion, or a mental one that is likely causing these issues?
 
I think that her struggles during this season is due to accumulated fatigue from the last season's overloaded schedule. The nex two seasons will be really important for her, so I just hope her team makes a right choice for her.
 
I don't see what someone wearing revealing clothing in everyday life has to do with whether they hope their nipples will be exposed while engaged in an athletic endeavor, which also happens to be their job.
yeah I dont think Liza intenionally let it slip b/c she enjoys revealing clothes :scratch2:


I do hope this comp helped the team plan the praparation for the TC better.
 
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Just came across this photo, and HAD to share it.

Liza with Daniella Ipsarides (Cypriot skater at Advanced Novice Level, and 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] youngest of my adopted daughters)

Lucky girl!!! I'm so jealous of her!

CaroLiza_fan
 
I was a huge Liza fan but what I witness this season is making me so sad. I looked at the protocol :sad21:. I know fans keep having trust in Mishin but maybe it is not the right path for Liza to enter competitions one after another and get worse and worse results. Maybe she needs a break. I think her last thunderstorm season was after coming back from an injury. She was off ice for more than a year and when she came back boom!

And, maybe I'm wrong, who knows?
 
No, she hadn't been off ice for over a year - the injury occurred in the spring of 2014. Then she had back problems and people said she was done. And in the autumn she was back and we all know what happpened.

Not to trivialise the problems she is having now. She's going through a really rough patch, and there is no denying that. I myself have faith that she will work her way through it. She has dug herself out of a hole before - and she can do it again.
 
I do think she needs to have a rest

I'm not sure what would really be best for her now but it's hard to think a rest at least of a few weeks would hurt anything at this point.

I do think real fans of Liza's aren't going to give up. Unfortunately there is a pattern at this point of her having some seasons that are real, huge HITS, and some seasons that are real, huge misses, but that doesn't take away from my enjoyment of her and her skating- whether she's in a good season or a bad one.
 
I'm not sure what would really be best for her now but it's hard to think a rest at least of a few weeks would hurt anything at this point.

I do think real fans of Liza's aren't going to give up. Unfortunately there is a pattern at this point of her having some seasons that are real, huge HITS, and some seasons that are real, huge misses, but that doesn't take away from my enjoyment of her and her skating- whether she's in a good season or a bad one.

Physically and technically, you'd think that'd no longer be the case. She looked to be in good shape and done with the issues that dogged her through puberty. The sound technical base is comforting because there's at least a foundation for her to put together a good season.

Part of me doesn't feel right putting exhaustion to blame; I feel like it had more to do with the off-season and how she began the year. Touring appears to have kept her from putting together two solid programs - the short program she worked on with Lambiel went unfinished, for example - and then I think going to the Japan Open put a wrench in any early season momentum. That she went to Warsaw and Zagreb doesn't seem like a reaction to a team that feels she needs to compete less. I liked her going to at least two events before the GP event last year; the trip to Nice might have been overkill this year, but the Japan Open just seemed like at once too much pressure and not enough preparation.

That does lead me to also look at some of the awful luck she had on the Grand Prix. Beyond not getting the original assignments she and Mishin wanted, there were reports of her having a hellish flight to Canada, and then we of course know what happened in France, which not only deprived her of a big stage to hone the free skate, but also kept her out of the final. Given how Mao, Ashley, Gracie, and even Elena skated, a medal could hardly be considered off the table with the BV she brings to the ice.

With all that said, I'm still so shocked that she skated the way she did at Nationals, especially with how good most of the jumps looked in Zagreb. At the end of the day, this might be the least important of the four years in the quad - though selfishly I might have hoped to witness a peak performance in Boston - and I can't think a skater with such talent, solid technique, structured coaching, and a capability to be consistent through 13-odd events in a single season can be a flash in the pan.
 
last season she ended at Worlds as the best in the world and onto the next season everything changed. damn
 
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