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But did he criticize her, though? A comment about how he's unsure if the quad phenomena in junior ladies isn't going to be short-lived may not be the most popular statement, but I don't consider it criticizing Eteri.

Nope, he didn't. I don't like her words at all. (hence the "criticized")
 
Don't worry, the channel's milking it for ratings, so we'll probably get the whole thing in snippets stretched over another month...

Such sadistic juicy snippets during a month:biggrin: Would be good to have the full picture.
 
Don't worry, the channel's milking it for ratings, so we'll probably get the whole thing in snippets stretched over another month...

This thread shows that they're right to do it: they released a reportage with only 2 interesting news (Zhenya can jump again and Eteri's interview), and there are 5 new pages here in less than 2 hours :laugh:
 
When did Orser talk about wanting to know Eteri's "secrets"? Because if it's after the first interview she gave, I think he just tried to flatter her to make her shut up and end the question, like "See? I think you're good, no need to dig deeper in this mess" kind of thing... could it be?
 
Nope, he didn't. I don't like her words at all. (hence the "criticized")

Hmmmmm a little at least i think. If you criticize the jumps of a girl, saying that she probably will not land them when she will be senior, it's like saying that the coach shouldn't have teach them or teach them bad. No?
 
When did Orser talk about wanting to know Eteri's "secrets"? Because if it's after the first interview she gave, I think he just tried to flatter her to make her shut up and end the question, like "See? I think you're good, no need to dig deeper in this mess" kind of thing... could it be?

This is the same interview in which she said that she feel that Orser want to challenge her. So i think that actually she closed her mouth since then.
 
When did Orser talk about wanting to know Eteri's "secrets"? Because if it's after the first interview she gave, I think he just tried to flatter her to make her shut up and end the question, like "See? I think you're good, no need to dig deeper in this mess" kind of thing... could it be?

it can be whatever you want to believe, you see. people see Eteri as some sort of witch, so it means that the antagonist is left for Orser here as some posters aka people with 2-polar "bad/good" model prove this with statements like this one, given by you.
 
Hmmmmm a little at least i think. If you criticize the jumps of a girl, saying that she probably will not land them when she will be senior, it's like saying that the coach shouldn't have teach them or teach them bad. No?

But this is something everybody thought watching Trusova doing quads, she's just 13, there is the chance that she will lose her jumps growing up, he just stated a fact...
 
But this is something everybody thought watching Trusova doing quads, she's just 13, there is the chance that she will lose her jumps growing up, he just stated a fact...
Also even if the little girls somehow keep their quads until the next 4 years, the current Orser doesn’t know. Not anyone of us knows. It’s just speculation based on history (Miki Ando remember?). He said “might be” or “maybe”. He didn’t say “she won’t be”.
I don’t know if anyone of us has enough confidence to say “these girls will definitely have consistent quads when they’re 18-19.”.
 
But this is something everybody thought watching Trusova doing quads, she's just 13, there is the chance that she will lose her jumps growing up, he just stated a fact...

not mentioning the body damage they might have, she honestly make a fuss over nothing, is not like she teach this girls the quads, they already knew, and he mention it in an interview about that issue, he didnt mention Trusova just because he wanted too
 
I think that the only thing that Eteri will learn about all this drama is that she shouldn't give interviews on phone, but in front of camera, live :laugh:
 
I have to ask, because I'm seriously thinking my reading skills are giving in - Eteri saying "Brian is hurt by her teams success and they must train harder to hurt him more" is a 'confident reply', but TAT simply stating her opinion that Brian Orser is the best coach in the world right now is dismissive, disrespectful and behaving like a brat?

There are zero ways for me to answer that that wouldn't get deleted and me an infraction.
Dear Li'Kitsu, how good is your Russian? That's exactly what I'm constantly talking about - people don't know the language and use these crude translations in subs instead, assuming that their further interpretation of those translations is the ultimate truth. Eteri in fact just said she needs to respond to Orser's challenge with an even greater challenge. Said with her typical wry, slightly sarcastic intonation. You made up a certain image of Eteri out of nothing and are actively selling this image to other readers of this forum. Sorry, I don't buy it. I know Russian.
 
You seriosly compare them using history? In that case I can name many more coaches better than both of them:confused2: Right now NO ONE compares to her school of skating, as the results are phenomenal and progressing each time we see her skaters. She wants a boy-champion and I think she'll get there too, no doubt

Yes, what else is there to use to compare records? No one can predict the future. Her young skaters may or may not result in World and Olympic gold medals. And if we just take the past quad, she has two World gold medal winners, an Olympic gold medal winner and an Olympic silver medalist. Orser has an OGM winner, an Olympic bronze medal winner and three World gold medal winners, two World silver medal winners and two World bronze medal winners. Certainly Brian has the best coaching record of anyone in the past 4 years.
 
https://youtu.be/vqDLcWgotNA?t=4m48s

Go watch the video at 4 minutes 48. She SAID it - it's her voice, it's her words. She said : "I have a feeling Orser challenged me. He is hurt by our good results. So you need to work harder to hurt him even more". :shrug: I can understand that she is hurt by the fact that Evgenia left her, but her behavior is just immature.

Dear dobrevaria, with all due respect... Apparently you do have a knowledge of Russian but you obviously fail to recognize the humorous mischief and irony in Eteri's words, so obvious to any native Russian speaker. That's why the details are so important :)
 
Dear dobrevaria, with all due respect... Apparently you do have a knowledge of Russian but you obviously fail to recognize the humorous mischief and irony in Eteri's words, so obvious to any native Russian speaker. That's why the details are so important :)
My Russian friends say it isn’t so.
 
My Russian friends say it isn’t so.
Can they please give a more extensive translation and elaborate on the context in which they were spoken? What's their interpretation of her words? They didn't hear the irony and sarcasm in her words? Do they tell you she said her words straight-faced?
 
Yes, what else is there to use to compare records? No one can predict the future. Her young skaters may or may not result in World and Olympic gold medals. And if we just take the past quad, she has two World gold medal winners, an Olympic gold medal winner and an Olympic silver medalist. Orser has an OGM winner, an Olympic bronze medal winner and three World gold medal winners, two World silver medal winners and two World bronze medal winners. Certainly Brian has the best coaching record of anyone in the past 4 years.

Oh, let's give names then. His star students that come to mind are...Yu-na, Yuzu and Havier. I hear nothing about new students. At the same time Eteri has Zhenia, Alina and quad-girls + a lot of promising other students (not to say Yulia, who gave her fame). The promise and potential of school is on Eteri's side
 
Can they please give a more extensive translation and elaborate on the context in which they were spoken? What's their interpretation of her words? They didn't hear the irony and sarcasm in her words? Do they tell you she said her words straight-faced?

I think there is no friends or they are bad at English:laugh:
 
Can they please give a more extensive translation and elaborate on the context in which they were spoken? What's their interpretation of her words? They didn't hear the irony and sarcasm in her words? Do they tell you she said her words straight-faced?

Ok, so I'm a native Russian speaker as well and yeah, her tone is "mischievous", as you put it. But that doesn't change the fact that she alleges Orser is jealous of the success she has with her students. Of Trusova's quads, to be precise, but the way they cut it, you wouldn't know that's what she was talking about if you hadn't heard the bit from last week. Sure, she says it in this joking manner, but the joke's at his expense.
 
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