Evgenia Medvedeva to train under Brian Orser

[plushyfan]

Hello.

If you don’t agree with me it is probably that you are right. Many times I am not right.

LOL! I can tell this about myself, too..

 

[Luis]

Do you think the Russians were more liberal than now? Have you ever seen videos, or pics on the Russian show business? Or do you know in Moscow St. Petersburg there are gay clubs??

Yes, I Think that in the first 00s people were more liberal than now. I do not enter to assess whether that is positive or negative.

 

[cooper]

Funny. When Yuna leaving Orser in 2010 there was outrage. "OMG why Yuna?" "Her mother is evil" etc. Now, with similar situation people are supportive all of a sudden. LOL.

 

[eaglehelang]

Vacations, training and shows can't stop or jump start one's growth spurts, it could have happened any time. How could someone delay it without some short of medication?

China's gymnastics and/or diving team did it by restricting their athletes to certain type of diet.

 

[Grin]

Funny. When Yuna leaving Orser in 2010 there was outrage. "OMG why Yuna?" "Her mother is evil" etc. Now, with similar situation people are supportive all of a sudden. LOL.

Some "i'm not a hater, but"s cry now: "Why Medeveva? Why loosing time on her? Why didn't he take ____ instead?"

I only hope Brian won't change her unique contemporary style

 

[Watch]

Funny. When Yuna leaving Orser in 2010 there was outrage. "OMG why Yuna?" "Her mother is evil" etc. Now, with similar situation people are supportive all of a sudden. LOL.

Is this really a shocking revelation that only because a situation is similar it's never identical? The reasons why people are critical towards Eteri and why many see it as a reasonable move on Med's part are well known.

 

[synteis]

I thought the Russian interview linked a little while back was really well done. The questions seemed much more informative than the ones from Philip Hersh's two articles. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Lillebror]

I only hope Brian won't change her unique contemporary style[/QUOTE]

Hi!
On the one hand I love contemporary style so much and was so happy that it finally had arrived on the ice.

As much as I loved Anna Karenina I think it’s a very sad program. At least one program should be lighter .

 

[Grin]

Hi!
On the one hand I love contemporary style so much and was so happy that it finally had arrived on the ice.

As much as I loved Anna Karenina I think it’s a very sad program. At least one program should be lighter .

I Hope they will make something contemporary in the nearest future (for example ExO-monster)

 

[Lillebror]

The best part of the recent interview is that there will be taken good care of her health.

 

[dansams]

Also probably not the worst thing in the world for Zhenya to leave that Russian pressure cooker. Crazy to think while you have a 18 yr old Oly silver medalist + 2x world champion and a 15 yr old Oly gold medalist breaking all kinds of records, all anyone can talk about is a bunch of 13 yr olds who won't even turn senior for at least another yr.

 

[Grin]

The best part of the recent Interview is that there will be taking good care of her health.

Yes, I will be happy if she will have a Caro-like long skating career

 

[plushyfan]

Is this really a shocking revelation that only because a situation is similar it's never identical? The reasons why people are critical towards Eteri and why many see it as a reasonable move on Med's part are well known.

The critics were about how she left Eteri..

 

[Grin]

Also probably not the worse thing in the world for Zhenya to leave that Russian pressure cooker. Crazy to think while you have a 18 yr old Oly silver medalist + 2x world champion and a 15 yr old Oly gold medalist breaking all kinds of records, all anyone can talk about is a bunch of 13 yr olds who won't even turn senior for at least another yr.

I bet Evgenia felt like granny in that environment. She even cosplayed granny not long ago (probably, at Japan TV show)

 

[yume]

Funny. When Yuna leaving Orser in 2010 there was outrage. "OMG why Yuna?" "Her mother is evil" etc. Now, with similar situation people are supportive all of a sudden. LOL.

Well, different situations different skaters. In Medvedeva's case i don't see why people should not be supportive. Personally i think it's the right move. Not because i think that Sambo-70 is hell on earth or that Eteri is a witch, but because it was obvious that Medvedeva likely would still stagnate and lose her spot to youngsters.
The problem is that people can't be supportive without that intense and boderline Eteri bashing.


But if if you talk about how she left, Yes that was not cool. Not at all.

 

[squall1111]

https://mrsport.ria.ru/interview/20180510/1136673188.html

New article about Orsers interview with Russian media

 

[Sugar Coated]

Well, different situations different skaters. In Medvedeva's case i don't see why people should not be supportive. Personally i think it's the right move. Not because i think that Sambo-70 is hell on earth or that Eteri is a witch, but because it was obvious that Medvedeva likely would still stagnate and lose her spot to youngsters.
The problem is that people can't be supportive without that intense and boderline Eteri bashing.


But if if you talk about how she left, Yes that was not cool. Not at all.

In regards to hell on earth, Eteri literally says in the recent documentary that Zhenya must travel through the circles of hell to be champion.

We have no evidence that what eteri says is the truth. We weren’t privy to what went on behind the scenes during the change but we do have evidence to suggest she is lying about not knowing prior to the Friday announcement (deletion of photos of Zhenya from her group). I’m also not sure it could have been in her interest to handle the situation any other way as eteri is motivated to protect eteri and not look out for the best interests of Zhenya. She needed to be careful about the info related to switching coaches since eteri could prevent it.

 

[Tolstoj]

The critics were about how she left Eteri..

Okay we need to discuss this.

I don't think Eteri would have allowed Evgenia to go to Brian Orser: he's one of her biggest competitor, and based on the experiences from Elizabet and Evgenia he will now have an idea of which are Eteri's secrets.

Also Evgenia knew how these kind of things went for other skaters that left Sambo70 before (they all retired soon after that move: look at Polina Shelepen, Julia Lipnitskaia, Adian Pitkeev,...)

So i don't blame Eteri for her angry reaction but i don't blame Evgenia either cause Brian was her best choice and this was the only way to make it happen.

 

[Luis]

I'm still honestly confused by why people are offended by the idea of Medvedeva training outside of Russia. I mean,if she brings results, it's going to be for Russia anyways. She's a talented lady who decides to figure out what will work out for her, in course of representing Russian Figure Skating internationally. Is it really an issue that someone is no longer Russian, as soon as they set foot overseas?

Also, it's not a bad idea to learn a thing or two from foreign coaches and choreographers-sometimes it's an outside observer who has a fresh and clear perspective on what needs to be tweaked.

If we were in 1972 and Bobby Fischer had said “Hey, I have decided to go to the USSR to learn chess with the soviets, but I will continue representing US National Team”, what do you think the Americans would have thought?

There are certain feelings that correctly or incorrectly they are very difficult to avoid.

 

[Ophelia]

Okay we need to discuss this.

I don't think Eteri would have allowed Evgenia to go to Brian Orser: he's one of her biggest competitor, and based on the experiences from Elizabet and Evgenia he will now have an idea of which are Eteri's secrets.

???

BORser didn't have any female skaters prior to Med that were medal threats (I don't count Daleman as a threat). He was barely active in ladies skating and most of attention was on men's. The bigger coaching threat would've been Raf (with Lim and Honda) or one of the Japanese coaches.