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Is this still about the letter or has something else happened?
Evgenia Medvedeva
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Is this still about the letter or has something else happened?
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I was referring to a post that seems to have been deleted. It was a link to an instagram hate account. Honestly, there's nothing else we can do apart from reporting them for hate speech and posting nice messages for Zhenya to see.
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It was my post and again i do not understand why it was taken down. Was it against the forum rules? I did not think so. I mean i was not spreading missinformations. I said it could be this person not that she def. Was it. No hate comment or wrong language either. Anyone knows why it was taken down?
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I don't know to be honest. Maybe this will help?
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?18607
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This is too funny!!!! Evgenia’s facial expressions!!! ESP the first one:
https://mobile.twitter.com/LinaKimGyu/status/1137338344147496961
https://mobile.twitter.com/LinaKimGyu/status/1137338344147496961
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https://mobile.twitter.com/hanyusenshu/status/1137410258685583360
I’m hazarding a guess, but the one missed loop was the one in combo with salchow at RCF?
Wonder what her salchow success rate is? :luv17:
I’m hazarding a guess, but the one missed loop was the one in combo with salchow at RCF?
Wonder what her salchow success rate is? :luv17:
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I think one was the one she fell on during Autumn Classics and the missed combo at RCF, like you said. Still, sooo impressive. Even if it‘s a “less difficult“ triple, such consistency is just astounding. I sometimes forget how impressive her track record really is, not just on the loop but competitions in general. Zhenya‘s most difficult weapon is her mind, she has the fighting qualities, the focus and the determination very, very few people do. I think not only her winning streak of 2 years shows this but also how she fought back this season all the way to the Worlds podium.
100%? :luv17:
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That’s true. I forgot ACI.
True about her mental strength. That’s a gift. And it has taken her places, and will continue to.
I am curious about her potential layout next season. Is there any advantage to doing salchow-loop, flip and 2A? Seems like mathematically the BV will almost be the same?
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Doing a 3Sal+3Lo in the SP would raise her BV by 0,53 or 0,14. Depending on wether she does the combo during the second half or as the first jump.
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If she really wants to up her BV she needs to fix her Lutz edge. Doing a 3S+3Lo or 3F+3Lo does not raise her BV in her SP by much if she does not do a 3Lutz in her SP :/
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Honestly, a flat edge should be enough, imo. She doesn‘t “need“ to have a real outside edge, at Worlds 2019 there was only one girl in the top 10 who had a true outside edge lutz and that was Rika. I think there‘s so much focus on Zhenya‘s flutz but it‘s not so bad. It‘s actually been a pretty good looking jump this season. I do hope the edge gets better of course. I just don’t think it’s as much of a disaster as we all were made to believe.
I’m not sure about 3F+3Lo, her 3F landings have been problematic this season. I also believe that at one point during her SP promotion video it looks like she’s setting up for a lutz so maybe she’s planning on including it in her program again? She also has been trying some more lutz combos lately, even 3Lz+3Lo, so maybe she’s really planning on going for that lutz more often this season.
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Yes, her landing on her Lutz is so much better than her Flip currently. Her Lutz is actually a very pretty jump if you ignore the edge
I am hoping that they will try to get back to her old Lutz entry pre-2016, there she had a flat edge, which would be enough to not get an e. I agree there are so many wrong edged Lutzes out there that get ignored by the judges and viewers yet Evgenia's gets always picked on by people. I am also excited for the difficult entries Evgenia will add to her jumps next season. She once replied to someone on her insta that she will add more difficult steps. This will also help her GOE on some jumps I also hope that she tries to do a 2T+2Lo combo. Her jumps with the 2T+2T combo always get really low GOE.
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3Lo3Lo 2A and 3F is the only way to significantly raise her SP base value, but it's really high risk
I'd definitely like to see her try -eu3S or -eu3F combos at some point
I'd definitely like to see her try -eu3S or -eu3F combos at some point
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It can obviously improve (I mean who would've thought the 2A would become so much better?), but I kinda feel like a quad sal is more probable than a lutz with the slightest outside edge 
I think unless she does a proper outside edge lutz (not a super deep one) in competition, she'll be called no matter what, so the 3F+3T is more reliable. Though, it seems like the flip is unstable as of right now.
I think unless she does a proper outside edge lutz (not a super deep one) in competition, she'll be called no matter what, so the 3F+3T is more reliable. Though, it seems like the flip is unstable as of right now.
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3Lo+3Lo and goodbye to her hips..just saying.
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Yes, her landing on her Lutz is so much better than her Flip currently. Her Lutz is actually a very pretty jump if you ignore the edge
I also hope that she tries to do a 2T+2Lo combo. Her jumps with the 2T+2T combo always get really low GOE.
I don‘t know what‘s going on with the flip. It‘s always been a beautiful and easy jump for her but since she‘s reworked her technique, she always lands forward. I hope once she‘s used to the new technique, it will get better because she really needs it.
I agree completely about the lutz entry. I think the one she has right now doesn‘t help, it only encourages to go back to the inside edge. The one she had during her first senior season was okay, actually, it seemed like a flat one. I don‘t know why she ever changed it, maybe it became too inconsistent? But if she goes back to the way her lutz was in the 2015-16 season, it should be good enough. Not perfect but sufficient.
I‘m really hoping for some more difficult transitions. I believe the relatively empty FS this season really hurt her PCS wiss. She‘s a great performer but the judges want those transitions. That‘s actually one of the problems I‘ve had with TCC programs, they‘re sometimes a bit old-fashioned. But Averbukh is known for having lots of transitions and I have to say, his mostly actually match the music and make sense, which can‘t be said about all choreographers... Plus, Zhenya‘s been practicing transitions even in shows, she recently did a 3Lz with twizzles out of it. And now that you mentioned her comment as well, that makes me very hopeful. I‘m dying to see who will choreograph the FS. I still have no clue.
About the 2T+2Lo. Yes, absolutely, but only if it‘s consistent. Her 2T+2T combo isn‘t special, it‘s okay but she slows down a lot during the second and the third jump. Maybe this would be better with a loop, but those are frequently underrotated so idk.
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3Lo+3Lo scares me. Didn’t Tara Lipinski do this combo all the time? And we know how her hips ended up... I‘d rather she focus on the lutz and try to include it in her programs more.
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Tara was still a young girl doing that jump. Your hips aren't fully developed at 14. Evgenia is 19, so maybe the overuse of the hips won't be as much of a problem. I'm not really sure. But 3loop,3loop is pretty.
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That‘s a point. But I‘m not sure about it. I always thought the older skaters get the more likely they are to get injured. And Zhenya did get a hip injury this year already. I don‘t know, I just hope she‘s careful.
I think there‘s something peculiar about the 3Lo+3Lo combo, it just scares me. I can’t even say why. But Zhenya has a beautiful loop so she could pull it off, I’m sure. Let‘s see what she will do.
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