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Evgenia Medvedeva

because you want her and the team to fail, at least that is the impression you have given me the past two months with your comments in every thread.

Sure, I do. Because I‘ve just randomly followed her career like a madwoman for the last three years. I don‘t care for Eteri, true that, but I’ve clearly said that if she manages to help Zhenya, she‘ll redeem herself in a lot of ways in my eyes. That I don‘t have a lot of faith right now actually has nothing (or at least not that much) to do with Eteri or her team but the nature of the injury itself and the statistics in how many Russian ladies actually managed to recover after a back injury and stay on competing on top of their game. Because let‘s please just be realistic - Zhenya may love skating but she won‘t be satisfied struggling to make the top 5 at Nationals while simultaneously further ruining her health. Or at least that‘s the impression I‘ve gotten from her interviews.

But yeah. I cried my eyes out when that girl lost the Olympics (when she was still with Eteri, btw) because actually, I just don‘t want to see her succeed. Makes perfect sense.

Her injury has been diagnosed for 1 month and somehow you expect her to be completely competition ready by now or in a few weeks and if not she is apparently doomed forever. Skaters have been away from competitions for longer with smaller injuries.

First of all, no, I don‘t expect anything from her. If anything, I’m worried she’s trying too hard for something her body won’t be able to handle in the long run. Why else do you think I keep saying she‘ll likely withdraw from most competitions this season? I do think that if she isn‘t ready by Nationals, she‘ll likely not make the team, end up without funding, get dropped by RusFed and will have virtually no chance to make the main team ever again. Not because I want that to happen (duh) but because Russian skating is literally that cruel. Being with Eteri might help in this political game, though, so that‘s good.

Also, I feel like a broken record but: “skaters“. I‘m sure they do. But Russian ladies skaters? Successfully? Tuktamysheva‘s the only one I can think of and we all praise her because she‘s literally a very rare case. Of course Zhenya has a chance to be similar but yeah, chances aren‘t in her favor right now.


One does not recover + is in 100% competition form in the span of 4 weeks. We know Eteri expects perfectionism, so I already expected that Zhenya would not be at any competition unless she was in at least 85% top form and can place well, even if she is already better, so I personally do not calculate the severity of Zhenya's injury or chances of recovery by the number of competitions she skips. Adelia was away from competitions for 3 months after she had leg pain and then was in great form two weeks ago, they only send out skaters if they are in good shape and can place well.
Eteri does that with every skater. Shifts skaters' competition spots depending on their form to give them more time, I remember last season vividly where the juniors were constantly shifted around. Daniil said nearly two weeks ago that there was a chance she could go to the 5th Cup, albeit small, and that she could go to Nats as well and I doubt he would say that, if there was no chance she would be ready to go, since they usually never make such statements in interviews, they usually keep quiet about those things. Zhenya's official team said the same today. Zhenya officially did not declare herself for any competition so far this season (except the first 2 Cups, those were before her diagnosis), she did not even offically declare herself for Rostelecom Cup, so I doubt her team would give an official statement and declare her for the 5th Cup, if she was not already at least a bit better. Now they are just probably looking if she can already compete well by then or if she needs more time to get back in shape.
Supposedly we are supposed to get an update tomorrow. Let's see.

Eteri‘s a strategist and she‘s clever, I have no doubts about that. There’s a lot on the line for her as well, so I‘m sure that if Evgenia competes, she‘ll be ready. I also explicitly stated that I‘m thankful they don‘t make her compete when she‘s not ready.

Also, I‘ve said at least a hundred times that while I may personally not like the situation and needed time to come to terms with it, I still fully support Zhenya. I love her skating and I love her personality and the reason I‘m negative right now is not because I‘m doubting her spirit or her determination but because I‘m doubting what a human body is capable of enduring. As simple as that. And I realise that I‘ve been pretty passive aggressive in this post and it will probably be removed but I‘m just frustrated that as a Zhenya-fan, who genuinely fears that this injury could end her career, all I get to hear her is how I secretly hate her and want her to fail. Guess what? People have different opinions and even Zhenya fans don‘t have to agree everything. This place used to be one where we could all fret and be anxious in the knowledge that in the end, we were all rooting for our girl. Now it feels like forced positivity that, sorry, I‘m not about. Again, if you end up being right, I‘ll be the happiest person on the planet (lol) and will GLADLY tell you how wrong I was.

Anyway, end of rant. I‘ll end this by saying that Zhenya‘s programs this season have potential to be masterpieces and I am still having my fingers crossed to see her Alegria with full choreo. And maybe Masquerade with Eteri‘s improvements - I feel like the two could do something great with the basics of that program. :)
 
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favorite sp. Tosca, River Flows in you , is my runner up.
favorite FS W.E. But Alegria might beat it.
favorite jump 3S3loop
favorite costume. I love so many, Experience black dress, MOAG competitive dress
favorite moment , definitely the Roar at the end of the tango at 2019 Worlds

so Lunalovesskating we are almost 100% in agreement. :biggrin:
I think I‘ll try too.

Favorite SP: Nocturne. I feel like it‘s not as popular but I find it really beautiful and the message in it strikes close to home for me. I also love River Flows in You, though, I can play it on the piano and have a lot of fond memories with that song.

Favorite FS: W.E is the best choreographically but Anna Karenina gives me the most emotions, so that one.

Favorite jump: solo 3Lo

Favorite costume: Either the Milky Way Nocturne dress (I just love how it fit with the boarders of the Olympic rink) or Libertango. It was sleek and dangerously fierce.

Favorite moment: Million Roses after the Russian Nationals. Or the reaction after her first European win (she was so happy she cried). Or the famous Worlds roar. There‘s too many. :biggrin:
 
I think I‘ll try too.

Favorite SP: Nocturne. I feel like it‘s not as popular but I find it really beautiful and the message in it strikes close to home for me. I also love River Flows in You, though, I can play it on the piano and have a lot of fond memories with that song.

Favorite FS: W.E is the best choreographically but Anna Karenina gives me the most emotions, so that one.

Favorite jump: solo 3Lo

Favorite costume: Either the Milky Way Nocturne dress (I just love how it fit with the boarders of the Olympic rink) or Libertango. It was sleek and dangerously fierce.

Favorite moment: Million Roses after the Russian Nationals. Or the reaction after her first European win (she was so happy she cried). Or the famous Worlds roar. There‘s too many. :biggrin:
I love the million roses too. :love2:

Oh and the Leftovers dress.
 
I love the million roses too. :love2:

Oh and the Leftovers dress.
The Leftovers dress used to be my absolute favorite but then she wore it so often to different galas that I kind of got used to it and now don‘t find it as special anymore. It‘s still beautiful, I just don‘t don‘t associate with a certain program or moment like the other dresses, so it has less of an impact. I have high (weird...) standards, I know, I know. :laugh:
 
I don't think her career is over based on a back injury that she seems to be recovering from, and I don't think that RusFed will deny her a spot on the National team based on her inability to compete through most of this season. If nothing else, I think the coaches' council will vote her in. Rostelecom counts for nothing this season, so there is no need to push it. I don't see any way that she won't be competing at Nationals unless her back is seriously messed up, and as long as she competes at Nationals and looks decent, I don't see how she doesn't make the team. They are not going to ditch her for Frolova, lol.

Favorite SP: River Flows in You (Exogenesis 2nd)
Favorite FS: Memoirs of a Geisha (W/E 2nd)
Favorite Jump: 3S
Favorite Costume: Final Libertango costume/Tosca/Nocturne (I cant decide)
Favorite Moment:
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Runner up:
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Favorite SP: Nocturne or Exogenesis! I think Nocturne is the best of her "old style" with all the transitions and intricate movements so beautifully paired with the music - it's just magic. Exogenesis is the best of her 'new style' for me!

Favorite FS: Memoirs! I have the music saved on my spotify and when it comes on I can picture the whole program in my head, it's just so so well choreographed and Zhenya sold it amazingly.

Favorite jump: 3s3lo makes my jaw drop every time haha

Favorite costume: I love pretty much all her SP costumes, but the Nocturne dress is one of my favourites. The Memoirs dress is so special too.

Favorite moment: Rostelecom 2019! The 'finally!' when she skated Exogensesis clean and then how happy her, Brian, and Tracy were after MoaG - those two are my most watched skates of hers.

I hope we can see Alegria and Masquerade competitively, but I don't want her to skate through pain again like she had to before. If we don't get to see the programs in competition I'm sure she'll still star in lots of shows (when they're back on) and we can see them then maybe - none of us want to hear that she won't compete, but Evgenia is a very smart person and she'll make the best decision for her, even if it's sad in the short term. I'm still cautiously optimistic for the 5th stage though...
 
Favorite SP: Nocturne or Exogenesis! I think Nocturne is the best of her "old style" with all the transitions and intricate movements so beautifully paired with the music - it's just magic. Exogenesis is the best of her 'new style' for me!

Favorite FS: Memoirs! I have the music saved on my spotify and when it comes on I can picture the whole program in my head, it's just so so well choreographed and Zhenya sold it amazingly.

Favorite jump: 3s3lo makes my jaw drop every time haha

Favorite costume: I love pretty much all her SP costumes, but the Nocturne dress is one of my favourites. The Memoirs dress is so special too.

Favorite moment: Rostelecom 2019! The 'finally!' when she skated Exogensesis clean and then how happy her, Brian, and Tracy were after MoaG - those two are my most watched skates of hers.

I hope we can see Alegria and Masquerade competitively, but I don't want her to skate through pain again like she had to before. If we don't get to see the programs in competition I'm sure she'll still star in lots of shows (when they're back on) and we can see them then maybe - none of us want to hear that she won't compete, but Evgenia is a very smart person and she'll make the best decision for her, even if it's sad in the short term. I'm still cautiously optimistic for the 5th stage though...
Amy Zara I love this post. (y)
I love the kiss n cry with the huge fan, that is wonderful.
 
Favorite SP: River flows in you
Favorite FS: Memoirs of a Geisha
Favorite jump: 3S-3Lo
Favorite costume: River/Exogenesis/Memoirs
Favorite moment: "Our first gold together!!!!"

Adding:
Favorite non-jump element: I-skid spiral
Our first gold together is great, too. I love the medal ceremony at Shanghai Trophy, Evgenia with the gold medal and trophy.:)
 
So they were supposed to give a detailed update about Zhenya today:

"The General Director of the Russian Figure Skating Federation (FFKR) Alexander Kogan noted that representatives of the federation will tell in detail about the state of the silver medalist of the 2018 Games at a press conference tomorrow."

Today: if she recovers, she will participate in the 5th stage but if she doesn’t she won’t


I guess we wait 🙏🏻
 
Yes, in the Moscow time zone, Yevgeniya's birthday has already arrived :)
 
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