Evgenia Medvedeva | Page 213 | Golden Skate

Evgenia Medvedeva

Ame

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkNC7qOHocc
I don't even know how to comment it :shocked: Is it just advertising or she will participate there? It's not clear from what she said.
Anyway I can't say that I like what's going on with her recently - i.e. her tendency to promote rather second-class, so-to speak, fishy campaigns (wakanim, this russian ninjas show..) :slink: Maybe she should have some experienced pr manager/adviser to help her construct more respectable public image and refuse those who just wants quick profit from her name.

Firstly, skaters need endorsement to stay afloat. Secondly, Wakanim isn't fishy, second class site, lol, it's one of the european branchs of Aniplex which is owned by Sony Music Entertainment Japan, who is one of the biggest anime and music production company. And I don't see promoting some tv game show would affect her image.
Yuzu did some advertisements for domestic cleaning products and video games too, what's the problem?
 

Shayuki

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkNC7qOHocc
I don't even know how to comment it :shocked: Is it just advertising or she will participate there? It's not clear from what she said.
Anyway I can't say that I like what's going on with her recently - i.e. her tendency to promote rather second-class, so-to speak, fishy campaigns (wakanim, this russian ninjas show..) :slink: Maybe she should have some experienced pr manager/adviser to help her construct more respectable public image and refuse those who just wants quick profit from her name.

Figure skaters in general aren't some super stars who can just pick and choose whatever endorsements they want to. Yuna was quite an exception in this regard.

Anyway, I don't really see what's so fishy about this ninja warrior thing? I think it's a really cool concept.
 

madison

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And I forgot about P&G campaign... so I think she is doing great in terms of image, advertising ...
 

Elucidus

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what's the problem?

With Wakamin problem is - in Russia anime has rather negative image with common public - as something really childish or as some form of cartoon porn. Also there were some public scandals recently with suicide of schoolgirl who was Death Note fan. This was used in media as pretext to begin antianime campaign as something promoting suicide among youth. Which definitely not helps with anime image there either.
Tv shows.. it's hard to explain but in Russia some really vulgar cheap shows such as Окна or Дом 2 were insanely popular recently - which contributes heavily to image of all tv shows as something extremely lowclass and lowbrow among russian people.
 

VenusHalley

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basically just some words of praise for that show

So is she gonna participate it the show?



Remember one thing though. With all this talk here about Evgenia losing an event to Alina, Alina has fumbled a lot in her SP this season and has had to play catch-up with her FS. So even a mishap by Evgenia might not cost her a gold. I like Alina too, don’t get me wrong, I am just making an observation from this season.

I feel Evgenia's programs are usually more balanced - not only for the viewer, but to suit her. Alina seems to stumble a bit on some of the backloaded jumps. So it will be interesting how will they compare when they face off each other.

It's also sad that people would write Evgenia off after she doesn't win once. That must be a lot of pressure, and I hope she can handle it.
 

VenusHalley

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With Wakamin problem is - in Russia anime has rather negative image with common public - as something really childish or as some form of cartoon porn. Also there were some public scandals recently with suicide of schoolgirl who was Death Note fan. This was used in media as pretext to begin antianime campaign as something promoting suicide among youth. Which definitely not helps with anime image there either.
Tv shows.. it's hard to explain but in Russia some really vulgar cheap shows such as Окна or Дом 2 were insanely popular recently - which contributes heavily to image of all tv shows as something extremely lowclass and lowbrow among russian people.

Isn't everything "imported" seen as problem in Russia in general? I remember some insanity where people claimed Eurovision makes people take drugs (yet, Russia still faithfully participates and tries to win, despite outrage year after year).

I am sure Evgenia has a PR team to help her decide and does not just make these decisions herself... so they can think about the positives and negatives.
 

Elucidus

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So is she gonna participate it the show?

From her words it isn't clear at all. She doesn't give any hints about it - only how she likes the show and why. Most likely, I think, the answer is - no. She doesn't have time for it now and, besides, this show can be dangerous/traumatic which is too risky for her.
 

Shayuki

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With Wakamin problem is - in Russia anime has rather negative image with common public - as something really childish or as some form of cartoon porn. Also there were some public scandals recently with suicide of schoolgirl who was Death Note fan. This was used in media as pretext to begin antianime campaign as something promoting suicide among youth. Which definitely not helps with anime image there either.
Tv shows.. it's hard to explain but in Russia some really vulgar cheap shows such as Окна or Дом 2 were insanely popular recently - which contributes heavily to image of all tv shows as something extremely lowclass and lowbrow among russian people.
That sounds pretty silly. Medvedeva's a well known anime fan so promoting anime makes perfect sense to me.

The second point is even more silly.
 

yoloaxel

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With Wakamin problem is - in Russia anime has rather negative image with common public - as something really childish or as some form of cartoon porn. Also there were some public scandals recently with suicide of schoolgirl who was Death Note fan. This was used in media as pretext to begin antianime campaign as something promoting suicide among youth. Which definitely not helps with anime image there either.
Tv shows.. it's hard to explain but in Russia some really vulgar cheap shows such as Окна or Дом 2 were insanely popular recently - which contributes heavily to image of all tv shows as something extremely lowclass and lowbrow among russian people.

Evgenia is well known to the general public because of her Sailor Moon EX and because she loves Yuri on Ice - let's not forget that the shows that she does in Japan, for example, are a big part of a skater's income, and also these are things that make her relatable and loved by the public. I think it makes sense to promote something she's passionate about and Wakanim seems like every other official streaming site, nothing strange or fishy.
 

Elucidus

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The second point is even more silly.

Maybe because you are not a Russian. Tv shows are rather new take in Russia from American culture and considered by many people as one of western "enemy" means of destroying local culture virtues. And that opinion (about destructive nature of western culture) was implanted in masses subconciousness by many years of communist propaganda. Whereas in the West people are very used to shows, many generations watch them and they are just part of their lives. In other words these type of shows was absent in USSR and as all new and foreign from West - it's percieved as something "not very good". Well, it's true for older generation though, I admit.
 

Ame

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It sounds like Russian folks are anti-foreigns to me lol, is Russia really that closed off, at this age? If it's just the older generations then it's the same for every country, there're some pretty conservative folks in France too xD.
 

Shayuki

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Maybe because you are not a Russian. Tv shows are rather new take in Russia from American culture and considered by many people as one of western "enemy" means of destroying local culture virtues. And that opinion (about destructive nature of western culture) was implanted in masses subconciousness by many years of communist propaganda. Whereas in the West people are very used to shows, many generations watch them and they are just part of their lives. In other words these type of shows was absent in USSR and as all new and foreign from West - it's percieved as something "not very good". Well, it's true for older generation though, I admit.
So maybe it's a good thing that she does her part to change that?

This overly conservative attitude isn't for me.
 

Elucidus

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Evgenia is well known to the general public because of her Sailor Moon EX and because she loves Yuri on Ice - let's not forget that the shows that she does in Japan, for example, are a big part of a skater's income, and also these are things that make her relatable and loved by the public. I think it makes sense to promote something she's passionate about and Wakanim seems like every other official streaming site, nothing strange or fishy.

Actually, no. Evgenia is not well known to the general public since FS is not very popular in Russia. I know, it sounds ridiculous - but it's truth. She herself said that she was recognized on the street/metro only couple of times. Sailor Moon/Yuri on Ice helped to promote her among anime fans. General public don't care about that titles at all.
I don't have anything against anime myself - I am just concerned about possible increase of hate against her - since in Russia there are lot of anime haters as well. Btw, I've seen couple of photoshopped pics of her promoting rather questionable animes already - and I don't like in what direction it may go.
 

yoloaxel

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Actually, no. Evgenia is not well known to the general public since FS is not very popular in Russia. I know, it sounds ridiculous - but it's truth. She herself said that she was recognized on the street/metro only couple of times. Sailor Moon/Yuri on Ice helped to promote her among anime fans. General public don't care about that titles at all.
I don't have anything against anime myself - I am just concerned about possible increase of hate against her - since in Russia there are lot of anime haters as well. Btw, I've seen couple of photoshopped pics of her promoting rather questionable animes already - and I don't like in what direction it may go.

Google Evgenia and see what comes up first. Her most viewed video on youtube? Sailor Moon. The Buzzfeed article? Yuri on Ice. Teen Vogue? Sailor Moon. People who don't really watch figure skating know her for this, especially outside of Russia. Let's not make an argument about pure speculation. I doubt her team would have had her promote Wakanim if they thought it could be controversial.

Also: http://www.sportspromedia.com/most-marketable/2017/evgenia-medvedeva-2017

Her unabashed embrace of anime and youth culture has helped: in April, in Tokyo, she performed a rapturously received interpretation of 90s Japanese classic Sailor Moon, while her earnest devotion to the Yuri!!! on Ice series has put her at the heart of an international online community. A K-Pop fan, she will have plenty of common ground with her peers in the Olympic host nation as well.
 

Ame

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Questionable animes =))), like featuring gay relationships (YOI) is that what you mean? Yeah, homophobia is popular on the planet, what a sad mindset. I've read her interviews and the anime she lists I know all of them, note that anime aren't all for kids, some are for teenagers of 12 or above which is age appropriate for her and I don't see a problem. She doesn't encourage young kids to see Tokyo Ghoul for example, what I see is her promoting anime for those who are already ANIME FANS or among the people of her age that she knows.

Since she's not well known among the public like you said then they don't even know who she is anyway, let alone hate her, so her promoting whatever doesn't impact much.
 

lastremnant

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I have a question off topic a bit. I have seen some people call her “Janny” as well as on one of her social media pages she uses it as her name. Is Janny a nickname for Evgenia in Russian? Is it like Jenny for Jennifer in English?
 

Ame

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I have a question off topic a bit. I have seen some people call her “Janny” as well as on one of her social media pages she uses it as her name. Is Janny a for Evgenia in Russian? Is it like Jenny for Jennifer in English?

I think it's some analogue of her name in English, like Jane in English is equivalent to Jeanne in French for example. Don't know much about english analogues for Russian names though, maybe someone can help.
 

Sivush

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Actually, no. Evgenia is not well known to the general public since FS is not very popular in Russia. I know, it sounds ridiculous - but it's truth. She herself said that she was recognized on the street/metro only couple of times. Sailor Moon/Yuri on Ice helped to promote her among anime fans. General public don't care about that titles at all.
I don't have anything against anime myself - I am just concerned about possible increase of hate against her - since in Russia there are lot of anime haters as well. Btw, I've seen couple of photoshopped pics of her promoting rather questionable animes already - and I don't like in what direction it may go.

There is probably some kind of exaggeration about hate against anime-lovers there. Everybody loves Miyazaki and there is a lot of anime for children on russian TV channels and anime fests are held without any problems. After all Zhenya went to Urgant Show with Victuri on her top and nobody cared. The same with TV Shows, yes, most of russian reality and talk shows are really trashy but analogues of the Voice, Dance with Stars, Ice Dances are quite decent.
 

lavenderblossom

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Evgenia is promoting Ninja Warrior?! :love: I love that show, it's great fun! Also it's not shady, there's a Japanese (the original, in Japan it's called Sasuke, and there's a separate course for women called Kunoichi actually), American and UK version. It's basically just an advanced obstacle course show - they're probably having her advertise it since she's an athlete and it's a physically demanding course. Here's an episode I found on youtube for you to enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV5-9uINJcQ :rock:
I don't see any harm in either advert. It's not like anyone at the Olys is going to focus on it too much, I'm sure there's plenty of drama for them to talk about without having to dig into everything she's ever had to promote.
 
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