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Evgenia Medvedeva

What? Zhenya debuted in a year when the favorites were Radionova in Russia and Gold, Miyahara, Mao Asada in the international arena. She was literally nobody and there was no confidence in her.
Uuh... I realize that her 15-16 debut season was very impressive but come on. She was the junior world champion and had won everything during the past season. She definitely wasn't "literally nobody". I'd say that Tuktamysheva was quite a favorite at the time also. Still, it was a transitionary period. There wasn't any established super stars. So Medvedeva did have a good environment for making her mark.
 
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I had a lot of work, and I got up to date with the news about Zhenya. I loved her story with Nike, I think that the leggins with design look great, she should wear them more often. I tried to read the interview with Elle, but google translator is sometimes crazy.
She said her childhood ended at 12, wow. Athletes really have to mature faster and be more methodical than a normal child.She also mentioned that she studies and reads a lot. No wonder she always gives such intelligent answers for her age (:.


Now I just look forward to the show in Nagano and the start of training in TCC :drama:.


Uuh... I realize that her 15-16 debut season was very impressive but come on. She was the junior world champion and had won everything during the past season. She definitely wasn't "literally nobody". I'd say that Tuktamysheva was quite a favorite at the time also. Still, it was a transitionary period. There wasn't any established super stars. So Medvedeva did have a good environment for making her mark.
Junior titles are not worth anything in senior. You can see the case of Marin Honda or Polina, who was champion. Zhenya made her debut in the country of the favorite and the world cup was also held there. And we all know that she was not particularly "loved" in Russia.
 
Remember that this is ZHENYA'S FANFEST. I say this for the user @india ... who came here to make unpleasant comments that he then edited. None of us goes to Alina's fanfest to declare that Zhenya should have won, I have never seen someone from this fanfest do such an absurd thing, so I hope they do not come here to lift offtopic or generate controversy.

@MedoLove can you open your PMs?
 

What? Zhenya debuted in a year when the favorites were Radionova in Russia and Gold, Miyahara, Mao Asada in the international arena. She was literally nobody and there was no confidence in her. She earned her place by overcoming situations of intense pressure: Skate America, with Gracie being favored, Russia; Elena having pcs superior to her. Worlds in Boston, she endures the pressure and when she can not make her 3-3 combo, she quickly changes the design to a 3F, 2A. 3Lo-3T, caused commotion among commentators. In all that year, she never beat anyone in pcs, Ashley, Gracie, elena received more than her, she would have to earn her place by winning another year.
2017, after enduring a whole year of stress being only a teenager,She should again show that She was not the typical Russian 1-season champion. Mihara debuted and had higher BV than she, Caro had returned and the judges still loved her, Kaetlyn was already a favorite, Radionova and Pogo were up and down, so the Federation pressed Zhenya to the maximum. Also to make sure, they artificially pushed Sotskova over Pogo (but the international judges ignored her), Zhenya won and won, and won, she closed his mouth to those who didn't believe in her. Situation of maximum stress: Worlds 2017, Anna collapses,she had to secure the Olympic spots. Zhenya skates right after Anna. She could have been a complete disaster there that day and may have ended without a podium, because the pressure was enormous: defend world title, secure the Russian places, being pressured by her Federation, her teammates collapsed. But she delivered with concentration and calm.

2018 season :
she skates injured in Rostelecom and NHK, and even so she does not bomb, only god knows the physical and mental pain that she felt at that moment (remember she limped in NHK). It is forced to resign to the GPF and Nationals, we all know the consequences of that untimely injury. The level of stress and pressure that generates must be hell. Olympics: Zhenya gave everything, still not recovered 100% and suffering from tendinitis on those days, she also fulfilled, sacrificing her own body and mind. Despite having lost the European, she appeared in the Olympics as the favorite. All the pressure was on her.
These facts indicate that Zhenya tolerates better pressure than any other skater that ever existed (only comparable to Yuzuru Hanyu who lived a similar situation this season), without exaggerating. Alina, unfortunately, could not stand the pressure of being the "favorite" in Worlds and it melted. Which is due to her inexperience and to the fact that it was the first time in her life that everything depended on her, because Zhenya was not there to absorb that pressure.
And most likely, the pressure and expectations this new season are still on Zhenya instead of Alina. It's unfair, but she carries the kharma of being "reliable and consistent," and everyone waits for her debut under Orser's care. Again, for the 4th consecutive year she has to live a new situation of pressure and stress, I do not even want to imagine the nerves in the Russian Nationals this year.


Anyway, really all this is so off toppic, and already discussed in the forum of the Olympic event and in other forums in The Edge. You can open a debate about it.

Remember that this is ZHENYA'S FANFEST. I say this for the user @india ... who came here to make unpleasant comments that he then edited. None of us goes to Alina's fanfest to declare that Zhenya should have won, I have never seen someone from this fanfest do such an absurd thing, so I hope they do not come here to lift offtopic or generate controversy.

Why would you think anyone would come here to be negative to Zhenya?

Interesting post. The pressure is on Zhenya.
 
And most likely, the pressure and expectations this new season are still on Zhenya instead of Alina. It's unfair, but she carries the kharma of being "reliable and consistent," and everyone waits for her debut under Orser's care. Again, for the 4th consecutive year she has to live a new situation of pressure and stress, I do not even want to imagine the nerves in the Russian Nationals this year.

I absolutely love your post. Every word in this is true. The truth is that after these worlds the pressure will again be on Zhenya, unfortunately. Alina is considered a cute little girl, and will find for her 100 excuses (flu, height, etc.) And for Zhenya no excuses, only pressure. Judges in the worlds were rather generous and put Alina in 5th place. If Alina landed in 6th place, then on the next worlds there would be 2 places. And the love for Alina in Russia would have drastically decreased.
I have read this forum for a long time, but this topic has greatly upset me, that's why I write here for the first time, I had to speak out. Sorry for possible errors, because English is not my language.
I hope we will continue on the positive.
 
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Very interesting and detailed, but for me she gave more than 100% at the Olympics, but it still wasn't enough...

Well, she was injured and couldn't increase her difficulty so it really wasn't 100%. Had she been completely healthy it might have been a different story. I would love it if she wins the next Russian nationals and prove all her critics wrong.
 
http://figureskating-in-color.tumbl...peed-sketching-admittedly-my-second-try-first --did a quick sketch of Evgenia today. I really like this dress. It's muted, but very intricate. Her jumps are coming back, and with her determination, I'm sure we'll see amazing things from her this upcoming season.

I like your illustration, retro style, like in old black and white books. :agree: I also like this dress, but instead of tape in her hair I would prefer a shiny hairpin, as in the AK program. But it's so cool too :love:
 
What? Zhenya debuted in a year when the favorites were Radionova in Russia and Gold, Miyahara, Mao Asada in the international arena. She was literally nobody and there was no confidence in her. She earned her place by overcoming situations of intense pressure: Skate America, with Gracie being favored, Russia; Elena having pcs superior to her. Worlds in Boston, she endures the pressure and when she can not make her 3-3 combo, she quickly changes the design to a 3F, 2A. 3Lo-3T, caused commotion among commentators. In all that year, she never beat anyone in pcs, Ashley, Gracie, elena received more than her, she would have to earn her place by winning another year.
2017, after enduring a whole year of stress being only a teenager,She should again show that She was not the typical Russian 1-season champion. Mihara debuted and had higher BV than she, Caro had returned and the judges still loved her, Kaetlyn was already a favorite, Radionova and Pogo were up and down, so the Federation pressed Zhenya to the maximum. Also to make sure, they artificially pushed Sotskova over Pogo (but the international judges ignored her), Zhenya won and won, and won, she closed his mouth to those who didn't believe in her. Situation of maximum stress: Worlds 2017, Anna collapses,she had to secure the Olympic spots. Zhenya skates right after Anna. She could have been a complete disaster there that day and may have ended without a podium, because the pressure was enormous: defend world title, secure the Russian places, being pressured by her Federation, her teammates collapsed. But she delivered with concentration and calm.

2018 season :
she skates injured in Rostelecom and NHK, and even so she does not bomb, only god knows the physical and mental pain that she felt at that moment (remember she limped in NHK). It is forced to resign to the GPF and Nationals, we all know the consequences of that untimely injury. The level of stress and pressure that generates must be hell. Olympics: Zhenya gave everything, still not recovered 100% and suffering from tendinitis on those days, she also fulfilled, sacrificing her own body and mind. Despite having lost the European, she appeared in the Olympics as the favorite. All the pressure was on her.
These facts indicate that Zhenya tolerates better pressure than any other skater that ever existed (only comparable to Yuzuru Hanyu who lived a similar situation this season), without exaggerating. Alina, unfortunately, could not stand the pressure of being the "favorite" in Worlds and it melted. Which is due to her inexperience and to the fact that it was the first time in her life that everything depended on her, because Zhenya was not there to absorb that pressure.
And most likely, the pressure and expectations this new season are still on Zhenya instead of Alina. It's unfair, but she carries the kharma of being "reliable and consistent," and everyone waits for her debut under Orser's care. Again, for the 4th consecutive year she has to live a new situation of pressure and stress, I do not even want to imagine the nerves in the Russian Nationals this year.


Anyway, really all this is so off toppic, and already discussed in the forum of the Olympic event and in other forums in The Edge. You can open a debate about it.

Remember that this is ZHENYA'S FANFEST. I say this for the user @india ... who came here to make unpleasant comments that he then edited. None of us goes to Alina's fanfest to declare that Zhenya should have won, I have never seen someone from this fanfest do such an absurd thing, so I hope they do not come here to lift offtopic or generate controversy.

Thank you, MedoLove, for taking time to write this post. I am a relatively recent fan and wasn't aware of the amount of pressure Zhenya has been dealing with since a young age. She is truly amazing!
 
Ок. Я буду рада, что Женю будут поддерживать с флагами из Канады, Японии, России и вообще всех, кто любит истинное катание и настоящего чемпиона!:agree:

это круто! (I used Google translate so hopefully this isn't wrong lol)
 
What? Zhenya debuted in a year when the favorites were Radionova in Russia and Gold, Miyahara, Mao Asada in the international arena. She was literally nobody and there was no confidence in her. She earned her place by overcoming situations of intense pressure: Skate America, with Gracie being favored, Russia; Elena having pcs superior to her. Worlds in Boston, she endures the pressure and when she can not make her 3-3 combo, she quickly changes the design to a 3F, 2A. 3Lo-3T, caused commotion among commentators. In all that year, she never beat anyone in pcs, Ashley, Gracie, elena received more than her, she would have to earn her place by winning another year.
2017, after enduring a whole year of stress being only a teenager,She should again show that She was not the typical Russian 1-season champion. Mihara debuted and had higher BV than she, Caro had returned and the judges still loved her, Kaetlyn was already a favorite, Radionova and Pogo were up and down, so the Federation pressed Zhenya to the maximum. Also to make sure, they artificially pushed Sotskova over Pogo (but the international judges ignored her), Zhenya won and won, and won, she closed his mouth to those who didn't believe in her. Situation of maximum stress: Worlds 2017, Anna collapses,she had to secure the Olympic spots. Zhenya skates right after Anna. She could have been a complete disaster there that day and may have ended without a podium, because the pressure was enormous: defend world title, secure the Russian places, being pressured by her Federation, her teammates collapsed. But she delivered with concentration and calm.

2018 season :
she skates injured in Rostelecom and NHK, and even so she does not bomb, only god knows the physical and mental pain that she felt at that moment (remember she limped in NHK). It is forced to resign to the GPF and Nationals, we all know the consequences of that untimely injury. The level of stress and pressure that generates must be hell. Olympics: Zhenya gave everything, still not recovered 100% and suffering from tendinitis on those days, she also fulfilled, sacrificing her own body and mind. Despite having lost the European, she appeared in the Olympics as the favorite. All the pressure was on her.
These facts indicate that Zhenya tolerates better pressure than any other skater that ever existed (only comparable to Yuzuru Hanyu who lived a similar situation this season), without exaggerating. Alina, unfortunately, could not stand the pressure of being the "favorite" in Worlds and it melted. Which is due to her inexperience and to the fact that it was the first time in her life that everything depended on her, because Zhenya was not there to absorb that pressure.
And most likely, the pressure and expectations this new season are still on Zhenya instead of Alina. It's unfair, but she carries the kharma of being "reliable and consistent," and everyone waits for her debut under Orser's care. Again, for the 4th consecutive year she has to live a new situation of pressure and stress, I do not even want to imagine the nerves in the Russian Nationals this year.


Anyway, really all this is so off toppic, and already discussed in the forum of the Olympic event and in other forums in The Edge. You can open a debate about it.

Remember that this is ZHENYA'S FANFEST. I say this for the user @india ... who came here to make unpleasant comments that he then edited. None of us goes to Alina's fanfest to declare that Zhenya should have won, I have never seen someone from this fanfest do such an absurd thing, so I hope they do not come here to lift offtopic or generate controversy.

Nothing you have written has to do with my point, because Zhenya never was in the situation Alina was between OG and worlds. There could be many things discussed about but it would lead to things I don't want to get to, so I will only write this: What I have written was only a reaction to a comparison portraying Alina in a bad way, which was very unfair to her (in an environment not really very favoring her), nothing more. And again, that wasn't about portraying Zhenya in a bad way either or to deny she deals great with pressure. Nothing of that was written by me, I'm not aware I would make "unpleasant comments" so this is completely out of discussion.
I still consider myself Zhenya's fan, I just sometimes can't agree with the way some other fans are expressing their favor by making unfair comparisons :) (and if you are mentioning Alina's thread, nobody does it there and nobody has the need to make unfair comparisons :laugh:), thats why I answered on that first commentary. But as usually, the discussion took the way I did not intend originally (as it always goes this way, partially due to my mistakes or the lack of ability to express myself properly), so it was wrong from me to even start it, I had to consider the consequences. My apology for that.
 
Well, she was injured and couldn't increase her difficulty so it really wasn't 100%. Had she been completely healthy it might have been a different story. I would love it if she wins the next Russian nationals and prove all her critics wrong.
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear:I'm not talking about Technica aspects, of course she injury pulled her down, but you could see that she was pushing herself through her limits, we knew that she wasn't 100/% physically, but still she managed to break twice the WR. Even with this limitation, she gave all that she had and a bit more on the Anna Karenina.
Just my opinion on what I saw
 
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