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And the Japanese girls which I frankly don‘t know a lot about.

Incredible ladies.
Kihira is bringing the 3A as solo and 3A+3T as combo in the free and she's been doing them pretty consistently. I don't know what Mai has on the table for the new season but if it is on par with the old one, then depends on her PCS. She is habitually underscored and cannot approach Zhenya there. Marin Honda was very hyped and imploded last season but is now training with Raf. She has very good components so it'll depend on the rest.

It's by no means an easy GP, what with Costner there and Bradie who will have the full force of USFSA behind her as their #1.
 
Well, in Canada we have Gabby and Wakaba as the main threats. Especially Gabby, since it‘s in Canada so they‘ll try to push her. Panenkova.. It‘s her first senior season so PCS will be in no range to challenge Zhenya‘s. Tuktamysheva could be a threat, if she lands her 3A but well... Zhenya still has her PCS advantage and if there isn‘t much that changes, she‘ll be as mentally tough as ever and land her jumps!

In France we have Carolina of course. If she lands everything, which is a bit doubtful with her. And the Japanese girls which I frankly don‘t know a lot about. Overall, I‘d say she should do fine. As you said, she won against these skaters even while injured so I‘m not that worried. And if she doesn‘t come in first in one competition... as long as she gets to the GPF, everything should be fine. Besides, she‘s doing the same GPs as Jason, which is just great. They’ll be there to support each other!! :biggrin:
I fear Kihira in France. She just got out of juniors, and Zhenya had not competed with her before. With pure skating with 3A, the Rika is very dangerous.
 
Incredible ladies.
Kihira is bringing the 3A as solo and 3A+3T as combo in the free and she's been doing them pretty consistently. I don't know what Mai has on the table for the new season but if it is on par with the old one, then depends on her PCS. She is habitually underscored and cannot approach Zhenya there. Marin Honda was very hyped and imploded last season but is now training with Raf. She has very good components so it'll depend on the rest.

It's by no means an easy GP, what with Costner there and Bradie who will have the full force of USFSA behind her as their #1.

Yeah, I know it‘s probably weird that I don‘t know them. But to be honest, I‘ve never been that invested in Japanese figure skating, except for Yuzu and Wakaba. But what you‘re writing sounds... impressive, quite impressive. Maybe I should watch them more often. :O So, has Kihira landed her 3A-3T in any actual competition?
 
Incredible ladies.
Kihira is bringing the 3A as solo and 3A+3T as combo in the free and she's been doing them pretty consistently. I don't know what Mai has on the table for the new season but if it is on par with the old one, then depends on her PCS. She is habitually underscored and cannot approach Zhenya there. Marin Honda was very hyped and imploded last season but is now training with Raf. She has very good components so it'll depend on the rest.

It's by no means an easy GP, what with Costner there and Bradie who will have the full force of USFSA behind her as their #1.

Yeah, now that I look at it, Zhenya got 2 tough GPS, with Mai, Rika and Marin + Caro at IdF. I’m so excited for this new beginning though!

(Ps. Mai Mihara is always so underscored, it makes me so mad)
 
Yeah, I know it‘s probably weird that I don‘t know them. But to be honest, I‘ve never been that invested in Japanese figure skating, except for Yuzu and Wakaba. But what you‘re writing sounds... impressive, quite impressive. Maybe I should watch them more often. :O So, has Kihira landed her 3A-3T in any actual competition?

Yes. Both solo and combo, last season already at Senior Nats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFRiKM4dOgU

For example. And she has gotten better. This girl also has a quad in training. Major, major danger.
 
I think even if her consistency isn’t up to her usual Zhenya should be able to podium without major difficulties. A big question mark though is there new COP and how it will be applied - will
It benefit her? Will it benefit her competition?
 
It benefit her? Will it benefit her competition?

We have to wait and see. For one, I expect very uneven judging until the system gets going. And second, we don't know what she'll bring to the table in the TES part. I expect she will continue with very high PCS scores but next season we already know of two triple Axel ladies minimum (and at least two more who are going to try) which opens up their triples more for a high TES.

Best wait and see. I am pretty zen, first season after the rules change is always messy but her PCS should hold, so I don't foresee trouble when it comes to staying among the top ladies.
 
I think even if her consistency isn’t up to her usual Zhenya should be able to podium without major difficulties. A big question mark though is there new COP and how it will be applied - will
It benefit her? Will it benefit her competition?

She should be able to win without major difficulties, not juste podium. I mean just look at the last NHK, she fell on the 3F, she almost fell on the 3Lz, and yet her score would have been enough to make her the world champion this year... :scratch2:
But surely, with all the changes and the new judgment system, it might be harder than expected, but I'm fairly confident at the moment :biggrin: Besides, I think the new judgement system would be good for Zhenya, so...
 
We have to wait and see. For one, I expect very uneven judging until the system gets going. And second, we don't know what she'll bring to the table in the TES part. I expect she will continue with very high PCS scores but next season we already know of two triple Axel ladies minimum (and at least two more who are going to try) which opens up their triples more for a high TES.

Best wait and see. I am pretty zen, first season after the rules change is always messy but her PCS should hold, so I don't foresee trouble when it comes to staying among the top ladies.

Yes, she definitely needs to up her tech and she has stated that she wants to... idk what she can add already next season. Realistically a -3Lo combo and ~maybe~ an improved lutz so more of it?
 
Yes, she definitely needs to up her tech and she has stated that she wants to... idk what she can add already next season. Realistically a -3Lo combo and ~maybe~ an improved lutz so more of it?

Lz is a tough one, I don't think that'll be an easy fix and one off season probably isn't enough. Maybe if they can at least get it to be consistently ! then they can think about it.

A -3Lo combo is what remains then but I honestly have no idea how doable that is (I am talking about the general issues with this combination which aren't small). It's definitely the most straightforward way to up her TES and seems like something to aim for if she is healthy enough for this first season. Just bringing that would be good, as she's be progressing in the eyes of the judges and with her PCS it'd give her a very nice cushion if she can rotate it.
 
Yai! yes, at last we have assignments! For my part, I think these assignments play in Zhenya's favor. Daleman could be a danger, because she can benefit from being the girl at home, but Zhenya has better nerves than her.
Kihira can have all 3A's in combinations she wants, but if she keeps making POP in competition and can not land them, it's no use to her. In FAOI it was clear that she was shaky even in her simplest triples. The girl will need more than one GPF to be REALLY dangerous. Tuktamysheva could be dangerous, since her 3A has much better quality, literally she can get +5 if she rotates it completely, but even with that, she doens't have a strong floor in PCS.


I trust more in the steel nerves of our little Evgenia than in any possible 3A or unstable quad, sorry not sorry. Well, Panekova ascended, and Kostner is still here, for PCS and ability to collect GOE, Kostner is a much bigger threat, especially with the new system.

I'm so excited!! I'm dying to know the music:drama:
 
Lz is a tough one, I don't think that'll be an easy fix and one off season probably isn't enough. Maybe if they can at least get it to be consistently ! then they can think about it.

A -3Lo combo is what remains then but I honestly have no idea how doable that is (I am talking about the general issues with this combination which aren't small). It's definitely the most straightforward way to up her TES and seems like something to aim for if she is healthy enough for this first season. Just bringing that would be good, as she's be progressing in the eyes of the judges and with her PCS it'd give her a very nice cushion if she can rotate it.

Yeah I agree! And we have videos that show she can add -3lo to many different jumps, so I’m sure if she’s healthy she could try it. Also she isn’t prone to underrotating which is a plus for this kind of combo.

The lutz... yeah, it’s a bit more wishful thinking, but maybe... she needs more than one in two programs
 
Kihira can have all 3A's in combinations she wants, but if she keeps making POP in competition and can not land them, it's no use to her. In FAOI it was clear that she was shaky even in her simplest triples. The girl will need more than one GPF to be REALLY dangerous. :

I think if Rika lands her planned content she’ll be more than dangerous. Her layout at FAOI was really really impressive. Zhenya can fend her off with PCS though. She needs to be on her best game, I’m sure she’ll fight as she always does :)
 
What I'm trying to say is that this "danger" we will not see in the GP, do not be deluded. This is the debut of Kihira, and her nerves will be 100, just remember the first GP of Evgenia and Zagi, both fell. Why should we think that Kihira will be clean in her debut? especially if she plan to do a 3A-3T. I would suffer for that only in Worlds, but not in a GP.


I care only for people who have experience, good PCS and high GOE: and that's our Mrs. Kostner.
In fact Wakaba has already made herself a small base of 70 pcs, I suppose (and I hope, I really wish it) that from now on her PCs will be better, and she will be better rewarded in her jumps, so Kostner and Wakaba >>> Kihira, in terms of direct threat. For me, Kihira is only a potential threat in the final events.
 
My opinion is that Zhenya got the 2 most difficult stages. Seriously, any others, even against Alini in CoR or Finland, would be easier. Forces and good luck. Luck is very necessary.
 
What a pleasant way of communicating, so I think I'll pass.

lmao!!No one is fighting, don't take things so badly!:)and my English is not so good, keep that in mind
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Anyway, Zhenya in her last interview said she had some aces up her sleeve, so it's probably 3Lo in combination. We have seen her do many combinations with 3Lo, except e 3F-3Lo. In fact she did a 3 (f) lutz-3Lo -3Lo in 2017, but obviously because of the problem of her edge she can't add more than one Lutz in the layout nor risk combination. I would also like her Axel to improve noticeably, in fact, by looking closely she gets a good distance with that jump, despite being scratchy. I think naturally, the edge jumps of Evgenia get more breadth and ice coverage. Her Flip, which is very good at takeoff and rotation, is not that wide.

I can no longer over emotion:cheer:
 
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