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Evgenia Medvedeva

IceBallerina said:
Here we are, Evgenia Medvedeva’s free skate base value and potential tech scoring:

LAYOUT (BASE):
2a+3lo = 8.20
3lz = 5.90
3f-2t-2t = 7.90
2a = 3.30
3f+3t X = 10.45
3s X = 4.73
3lo X = 5.39
JUMP BASE: 45.87

Now onto potential tech and GOE. Some of this is copy and paste from a post I made a while ago, nevertheless here’s her potential tech score

2a-3lo – If she performs it how she does it practice, I’d give it at least a +2 GOE. So in total I will give it 9.18

3lz! – At ACI, her 3Lz! was 6.02 points. At SCI it got 6.15. So let's just say she'll get 6.10 for the lutz at IDF.

3f-2t-2t – At ACI it got 9.17, we will stick with that

2a - at SCI it was 4.05 and the other two were 4.10. Very consistent scoring for it, so I will say a 4.10
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3f-3t – At ACI, her combo got 11.83 in the short. In the long it got 11.83 too. In the long at SCI it got 11.96. Let's give it an 11.90 for the combo

3s – In the second half, her sals are always impressive. I’m going to guess here and give it a +3 in goe, so total 6.02

3lo – She hasn’t landed this clean yet, one fall, one UR. I am going to guess again and say a clean one +2 goe is 6.37

TOTAL JUMP TECH: 52.84

SPINS (assuming level four) and STEP SEQUENCE (assuming level four) and CHOREOGRAPHIC SEQUENCE

FCSp4 at SCI got 3.89, at ACI 3.97. Let’s give it a 3.93

FCCoSp4 - she’s messed this up at both comps so we will get creative again and add a point for goe, so total 4.50 points

CCosp4 at ACI got 4.90. This spin got an lvl3 at SCI so we will toss that out

Step sequence 4 at SCI got 5.24, we will keep that

Choreographic sequence at SCI got 4.50, at ACI it got 4.60. Let’s say 4.55

TOTAL SPIN/SEQUENCES: 23.12
TOTAL TECH: 75.96

Components:
ACI - 69.28
SCI - 70.56

I am going to take another creative liberty here and jump another point to 71.56 if she is clean
75.96 + 71.56
TOTAL FREE PROGRAM SCORE: 147.52
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Thank you thank you thank you! Realistically though, PCS are kind pegged with tech scores. Usually the higher the tech scores are the higher the PCS will be, right? How much do you think she can score if her that happens?
 
SailorMoonBear said:
Thank you thank you thank you! Realistically though, PCS are kind pegged with tech scores. Usually the higher the tech scores are the higher the PCS will be, right? How much do you think she can score if her that happens?
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Yes. If Zhenya goes clean, and I mean clean, all level 4 spins, no unders, no falls, and gets a high tech score - her PCS will be higher than 70.56 like she got at SCI.

In fact it may shoot up to 74 or 75, which would put Zhenya back in the 150s
 
SailorMoonBear said:
Thank you thank you thank you! Realistically though, PCS are kind pegged with tech scores. Usually the higher the tech scores are the higher the PCS will be, right? How much do you think she can score if her that happens?
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She got 70.56 at SCI, which could conceivably go up a few more points just for skating in the second group. Assuming a clean skate, I’d think at least 72.
 
Metis said:
3Lz — 5.90
2A — 3.30
3F-3Tx — 10.45 (+0.95 BV, +2.65 max GOE, BV 9.5 without bonus)
StSq4 — 3.90
CSp4 — 3.00
FSSp4 — 3.0
CCoSp4 — is 3.50
Total BV: 33.05 (with 10% bonus)/32.1 without accounting for bonus

Since +5 GOE is half of an element’s BV, her maximum TES is (32.1/2)+32.1+0.95, or 47.75.

ETA: oops, you were doing FS, not SP. But the GOE point still stands: calculate the total BV without 10% bonus, add half that total + the 10% BV bonus, and voila.
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So total sp score =?
 
Jeanie19 said:
So total sp score =?
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I am copying and pasting again from a few weeks ago hehe

Here's that post:

Let's say... shes goes clean in her short program at france.

At ACI, her 3Lz! was 6.02 points. At SCI it got 6.15. So let's just say she'll get 6.10 for the lutz at IDF.

At SCI, her clean double axel got 4.10 points. This score is consistent with the ones she got in her free skate. So let's say 4.10 for the axel.

At ACI, her combo got 11.83 in the short. In the long it got 11.83 too. In the long at SCI it got 11.96. Let's give it a 11.90 for the combo

For the jumps so far, we have:

6.10 for the Lutz
4.10 for the axel
11.90 for the combo
TOTAL: 22.1 for jumps only

Spins (assuming they're all level four) and Step sequence (level 3)

CSp4 at ACI was 3.28 points, 3.31 points at SCI. Let's give it a 3.30 for both.
FSSp4 spin at ACI got 3.90. She only got a level 2 on that at SCI, we will ignore that. So 3.90
CCoSp4 spin at ACI got 4.62, at SCI 4.65. Let's just give it a 4.64
Step sequence at ACI got 4.42, at SCI it got 4.38. Let's say 4.40 total

3.30
3.90
4.64
4.40
TOTAL: 16.24

16. 24
22. 1
TOTAL TECH: 38.34

COMPONENTS:
34.20 at ACI
34.33 at ACI

I imagine if she goes clean they will be a tad higher, so I'll give it a 34.5

38.34
34.5
TOTAL SHORT PROGRAM: 72.84

Keep in mind that could be much higher. For example, if she gets a level 4 on her step sequence. If she gets higher GOE's. And who knows, we haven't seen a clean short program yet. Her PCS could go all the way up to 36 if she is clean.

Realistic score - 73
Achievable score - 75

EDIT: Again, there's so many factors that affect this. The judges could be super generous and not even call her lutz or shower her with GOEs. She could get all the way up to 78 for all we know if she's clean and her PCS scores rise.
 
Thank you IceBallerina for doing all the calculations and copy and pasting!

Knowing that she score over 150 in the free again makes me happy. Hopefully we will see two clean skates and we will know.
 
Praying that Zhenya skates clean and fixes that last spin!!! I am so anxious about tomorrow and saturday. I hope her Axel-Loop combo gets a good GOE. Her Axel looks fantastic. You would never think that it was her least favorite jump if you'd just see it for the first time.
 
IceBallerina said:
TOTAL SHORT PROGRAM: 72.84
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That was more or l less what I got on my initial estimate as well, except I dropped the Lutz to BV and went a bit higher on spin GOE. PCS was 34.33 at SCI, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see it jump 2-3 points for a clean skate, given the starting order.
 
I agree with the scores posted above - I think if she's clean and hits her levels her Total score will be between 215 and 220 depending on GOE and PCS.

Pray for spins and for SP combo
 
I am excited about the 2A-3Lo and it would be interesting to see what GOEs the judges will give it, if executed clean. Her axels tend to get about +0,70-0,77 GOEs this season which for me is a crime. As if the judges are implying that her axel is the same level as it used to be... Still, the 2a3lo appears to be her strongest athletic feature right now, even though we have seen it only in practice- the combo has a good height and distance, I love her body composure especially during the axel because it doesnt look muscled and the landing is soft. She may have regressed in some aspects regardless what the reason is but I definitely see Brian's signature on this combo. I hope she lands it in the FS, not so much for the score but for her own confidence.
 
Lol, I tried to answer you but deleted my post. GS on a tablet is horrendous. Based on her knees is an inside edge but the blade is well.. between ! and e. If I was a tech panel, I would have called it honestly. https://ibb.co/fXtFxA
 
esteticlove said:
Lol, I tried to answer you but deleted my post. GS on a tablet is horrendous. Based on her knees is an inside edge but the blade is well.. between ! and e. If I was a tech panel, I would have called it honestly. https://ibb.co/fXtFxA
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Dang, I thought it looked OK in real time (obviously still inside but just looked passable in real time) but frame by frame it's clearly inside
 
Yep, her lutz is still an e but if we compare it to the Olympics, where she was at her maximum, is tremendously better. Also, you are right - in real time is a lot harder to tell in comparison to her previous seasons where it was quite obvious because she always lost speed going into the jump. The screenshot made me wonder if the problem lies in her prerotation. Just look how her body is tilted to her right side, of course the left foot will follow

Edit: I wrote food instead of foot :palmf::slink: its time to go to bed :bed:
 
melgirl25 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLFUTqkGB_c

Can anyone tell how the lutz edge is?
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Inside. I agree, the latest post on Medvedeva is a very solid read: http://the-real-xmonster.tumblr.com/

To paraphrase Alice’s analysis: the technique on her toe jumps overall has improved, including on the Lutz, but she’s still picking a half-second too late (after her edge has switched from outside to inside). If you watch the practice footage very closely, you can see her make the switch.

I think her weight isn’t as far over to the right (which would cause her to visibly rock over to the left and flip to an inside edge as she did), which is good. It’s not an easy fix. And even I can’t think of anyone who’s turned a flutz into a true Lutz (that is, a jump with actual counter-rotation versus a shallow outside edge at the moment of takeoff).
 
esteticlove said:
I am excited about the 2A-3Lo and it would be interesting to see what GOEs the judges will give it, if executed clean. Her axels tend to get about +0,70-0,77 GOEs this season which for me is a crime. As if the judges are implying that her axel is the same level as it used to be... Still, the 2a3lo appears to be her strongest athletic feature right now, even though we have seen it only in practice- the combo has a good height and distance, I love her body composure especially during the axel because it doesnt look muscled and the landing is soft. She may have regressed in some aspects regardless what the reason is but I definitely see Brian's signature on this combo. I hope she lands it in the FS, not so much for the score but for her own confidence.
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well if she lands the 2A-3Lo combo well then the GOE will rise! because of the factoring
 
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