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The fact that all of these people within the skating community (older athletes, younger athletes, Russian athletes, international athletes, coaches, commentators, Rusfed) support Zhenya says a lot. Do these people obsessed with hating Zhenya not see that? They know a lot more about the situation than the public does. If Zhenya was so evil, she wouldn't have such universal support from the skating community. Any logical person could see this.

Anyway, I'm glad she stood strong and defended herself so bluntly. These people ridiculous and I'm glad she didn't coddle to their feelings. Their feelings aren't in line with reality and don't deserve to be legitimized anymore. Go Zhenya!!!
 
She is probably back in Toronto now, right? I hope she was able to spend some quality time with her granny before she dives back to training again.

I have not heard whether Yuzuru will be at the Japanese Nationals. If not (of course I wish him well, just to clarify), I hope Brian goes to nationals with Evgenia. Otherwise, with David still in Spain, who else will go with her aside from Tracy?
 
She is probably back in Toronto now, right? I hope she was able to spend some quality time with her granny before she dives back to training again.

I have not heard whether Yuzuru will be at the Japanese Nationals. If not (of course I wish him well, just to clarify), I hope Brian goes to nationals with Evgenia. Otherwise, with David still in Spain, who else will go with her aside from Tracy?

Katya Brobova. She's not competing and they are great friends.
 
She is probably back in Toronto now, right? I hope she was able to spend some quality time with her granny before she dives back to training again.

I have not heard whether Yuzuru will be at the Japanese Nationals. If not (of course I wish him well, just to clarify), I hope Brian goes to nationals with Evgenia. Otherwise, with David still in Spain, who else will go with her aside from Tracy?

Is there a reason why people think someone other than Tracy should be there as well? Just wondering
 
Hi. Im sorry that I dont post here often because of my too busy schedule. But its important for me to say that I was there in Grenoble and right after the short program I managed to give to Brian a small present to Zhenya. The present was not so important but I wrote in the note that we love her for the wonderful feeling of happiness she gives us every time she skates and that we adore her courage and that she has to go on to fulfill her dream and we will always support her no matter what. We support every her desicion and wish her happiness.
 
Is there a reason why people think someone other than Tracy should be there as well? Just wondering

Support. Does not hurt considering the tsunami of hate comments she has to deal with.

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Hi. Im sorry that I dont post here often because of my too busy schedule. But its important for me to say that I was there in Grenoble and right after the short program I managed to give to Brian a small present to Zhenya. The present was not so important but I wrote in the note that we love her for the wonderful feeling of happiness she gives us every time she skates and that we adore her courage and that she has to go on to fulfill her dream and we will always support her no matter what. We support every her desicion and wish her happiness.

This is lovely! Thanks for doing that.
 
Hi. Im sorry that I dont post here often because of my too busy schedule. But its important for me to say that I was there in Grenoble and right after the short program I managed to give to Brian a small present to Zhenya. The present was not so important but I wrote in the note that we love her for the wonderful feeling of happiness she gives us every time she skates and that we adore her courage and that she has to go on to fulfill her dream and we will always support her no matter what. We support every her desicion and wish her happiness.

That's so nice. :)
 
I've seen the schedule for Javi's show and the last one was on 17th of November in Málaga and the next one is on 21st of December in Murcia. So maybe in between these dates DW and Sandra can go back to Toronto and help Zhenya a little bit with choreo. But maybe they stay in Spain.
 
I've seen the schedule for Javi's show and the last one was on 17th of November in Málaga and the next one is on 21st of December in Murcia. So maybe in between these dates DW and Sandra can go back to Toronto and help Zhenya a little bit with choreo. But maybe they stay in Spain.

That seems doable. That is almost a month so I would come home in between. Here is what I wonder, why do they both need to be at a show with Javi when one of their students (I don't know what other word to use) is struggling with her programs and has an important competition coming up. It seems that the show will overlap with Nationals.
 
She said she is not the Queen. This is true because she is the Tsarina! :) Actually she is the Tsarina in exile, hidden away in Canada, being prepared by her mentors until the time is right for her to reveal herself to the world and regain the throne. :)

This is actually a running theme throughout Russian history, not just the whole Anastasia mythos of the 1950's/1960's when everyone thought she was still alive (or the Crown Prince). Multiple times throughout Russian history the people gathered around a rumor of an "heir" who was supposed to have been dead but was thought to be alive somewhere.

I don't think that false Dmitrys (I.-IV.) are the proper examples worth of following :)
 
That seems doable. That is almost a month so I would come home in between. Here is what I wonder, why do they both need to be at a show with Javi when one of their students (I don't know what other word to use) is struggling with her programs and has an important competition coming up. It seems that the show will overlap with Nationals.

Zhenya is not the only student they have.
Also Javi's show may have been planned maybe since the end of the Olympics or a little later. So they knew in advance that Sandra and David where going to be busy this time of the year.
 
Just support. I think she will be extra nervous and two people giving her support is better than one.

Orser himself going could be a double-edged sword, though. If he’s physically there, that makes for a lot of easy media hits about the “war” between him and Eteri, simply because there’ll be an opportunity to get photographs of his reactions and Eteri’s as Med skates. It might be less pressure if he’s not there in person. Who knows?
 
Orser himself going could be a double-edged sword, though. If he’s physically there, that makes for a lot of easy media hits about the “war” between him and Eteri, simply because there’ll be an opportunity to get photographs of his reactions and Eteri’s as Med skates. It might be less pressure if he’s not there in person. Who knows?

I think Tracey is best alone. Again I say Katya, because they are close friends and she is like her big sister. And she was the team leader for WTT and Olympics team. Evgenia won both. So I know she is a good mentor.
 
Orser himself going could be a double-edged sword, though. If he’s physically there, that makes for a lot of easy media hits about the “war” between him and Eteri, simply because there’ll be an opportunity to get photographs of his reactions and Eteri’s as Med skates. It might be less pressure if he’s not there in person. Who knows?

That's a valid point. There are certainly pros and cons. But I suspect, even though its already been announced that Brian will be in Japanese Nationals, there will be camps that would say "look, her own coach did not even want to accompany her here." You know, the usual monday morning drama that Evgenia faces every day. :scratch:

I honestly think that this will have a chilling effect on other skaters who may want to explore the same path that Evgenia has chosen. That's why it is wise that Raf, who may be a viable option for some, is speaking up re this.
 
That's a valid point. There are certainly pros and cons. But I suspect, even though its already been announced that Brian will be in Japanese Nationals, there will be camps that would say "look, her own coach did not even want to accompany her here." You know, the usual monday morning drama that Evgenia faces every day. :scratch:

I honestly think that this will have a chilling effect on other skaters who may want to explore the same path that Evgenia has chosen. That's why it is wise that Raf, who may be a viable option for some, is speaking up re this.

Oh, I don’t think there are any good options here. But who knows what will happen? I can see pros and cons to Brian being there. i doubt his presence would add even more to the media circus so much as that said circus would just find a different issue to focus on.
 
That's a valid point. There are certainly pros and cons. But I suspect, even though its already been announced that Brian will be in Japanese Nationals, there will be camps that would say "look, her own coach did not even want to accompany her here." You know, the usual monday morning drama that Evgenia faces every day. :scratch:

I honestly think that this will have a chilling effect on other skaters who may want to explore the same path that Evgenia has chosen. That's why it is wise that Raf, who may be a viable option for some, is speaking up re this.

I think there will be drama whether Brian is with Zhenya or not. Tracy seems to be pretty unflappable and that could be just what Zhenya needs. I just hope the team is able to work out some sort of mental preparation plan for Zhenya to use during the period between the practice sessions and going on the ice to compete.
 
Can anyone translate? Thanks

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Commentator Andrei Zhurankov shared his opinion about the performances of Russian woman Evgenia Medvedeva after the start of cooperation with Canadian expert Brian Orser.

“Not only Russian fans and journalists, but fans and journalists from all over the world were waiting for Medvedev to retain all the best that she had during the work of Tutberidze, she would add something“ Khanyuvsky, Fernandesovsky, Orserovsky ”, and We will see not just a diamond, but a diamond in a luxurious setting. Everyone thought it would take half a year, and once - a new Eugene. But this did not happen. There are a number of objective reasons for this: change of country, culture, lifestyle, coaching methods, healing of injuries

But how could it be expected that she will perform worse and worse from tournament to tournament?

- No, and the worst thing is that the skating is changing - it has become heavy, straining, tense. This is seen not only by fans, but also by judges. Let's be honest, if such skate shows in France were not shown by Medvedev, but by another skater, you would have received much less points. The train of past high-profile victories still helps her in assessments, and this is deserved. Everyone notes that Zhenya added in the slip. But to add in slip and lose jumps, lightness, power in a reel - is it worth it at once to many? Never in her career did she go out on the ice unprepared. There was no such thing. Even after an injury last season, no one could say that Zhenya was not ready. For her, this is generally a new situation - the loss of jumps.

Is there a reason for losing jumps and lightness?

- Recently I talked to a figure skater from the Russian national team, and she expressed the opinion that his wife lacks ice - she has 45 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening. In Russia, the Tutberidze group has been working on the ice for an enormous amount of time, and it has always been this way. An hour and a half in the morning, an hour and a half after lunch, there is also an OFP. This is how training is achieved, and it is in ice work. The same is true for almost any coaching group in Russia. She probably lacks ice practice. I'm not sure that Zhenya's organism has been rebuilt under such a regime, and is it rebuilt? She worked all her life in another chart.

Another reason, as another athlete said, is that Orser asked Zhenya to be more feminine, to become a whole feminine kind. Under it was made a new, completely unusual for her cut dresses. Medvedeva said that a nutritionist works with her, and she can eat anything. But what we all saw in France ... It seems that a nutritionist does not cope with his work, and the cut of dresses only emphasizes this. This was especially noticeable in the short program. New music, new image, new dresses and a little bit of a new figure - “wow effect” did not work. People are not blind, everyone sees it. This is not her.

- All her weaknesses began to show clearly?

- Exactly. Who would not say anything about Eteri Georgievna, but she knows how to hide some weaknesses of her wards. This is where the trainer's genius is manifested - to hide the little flaws that everyone has. Tutberidze didn’t just hide these flaws, but turned them into virtues. She always picked up the program, looking for images for her skaters so that they were perfect for them.

Little girls in programs do not look like little girls. That is Tutberidze’s talent, that’s her strength. Suffice it to recall Julia Lipnitskaya and her Schindler's List program. The same thing happened with Medvedeva. Her programs have always been organic and fit the wife. And now we see a Russian girl in the American style. And it does not look. For such a program, Ashley Wagner is needed, she performs this great, ”says Zhurankov
 
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