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Evgenia Medvedeva

I have another crazy prediction game. Unpack your crystal ball and take a look into the 19/20 season! :biggrin:

I'd like to attend a competition next season and my initial plan was Europeans but now that the GPF has been assigned to Torino this should also be doable, and now I can't decide. :laugh: (I'll only be able to afford one.) While I like many skaters and both events would be worth going there, seeing Zhenya would be the cherry on top. So, which competition do you think is she more likely to make?

I know we have zero information to base this answer on, I would just like to hear your guesses. :biggrin:

(Going from one question we have no answer for to another one we have no answer for haha)
 
thatbeatingheart said:
I have another crazy prediction game. Unpack your crystal ball and take a look into the 19/20 season! :biggrin:

I'd like to attend a competition next season and my initial plan was Europeans but now that the GPF has been assigned to Torino this should also be doable, and now I can't decide. :laugh: (I'll only be able to afford one.) While I like many skaters and both events would be worth going there, seeing Zhenya would be the cherry on top. So, which competition do you think is she more likely to make?

I know we have zero information to base this answer on, I would just like to hear your guesses. :biggrin:

(Going from one question we have no answer for to another one we have no answer for haha)
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I want Cup of China because that's the one she has not gone to. I really think she'll get Skate Canada.
 
Jeanie19 said:
I want Cup of China because that's the one she has not gone to. I really think she'll get Skate Canada.
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I was hoping Skate America this year... not for anything, but I am not sure about the venue of SCI this year - its like 4-5 hours from downtown Vancouver. So for selfish reasons, yes :laugh:
 
thatbeatingheart said:
I have another crazy prediction game. Unpack your crystal ball and take a look into the 19/20 season! :biggrin:

I'd like to attend a competition next season and my initial plan was Europeans but now that the GPF has been assigned to Torino this should also be doable, and now I can't decide. :laugh: (I'll only be able to afford one.) While I like many skaters and both events would be worth going there, seeing Zhenya would be the cherry on top. So, which competition do you think is she more likely to make?

I know we have zero information to base this answer on, I would just like to hear your guesses. :biggrin:

(Going from one question we have no answer for to another one we have no answer for haha)
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Good question. Depends on the podium at Worlds, to a large extent, given how seeding for GP events works, at least in terms of specific GP events. For Euros versus the GPF, it’s really a question of who you want to see and how much skating you think you can take in — Euros will have more entrants, but the pool of possible competitors is narrower; the GPF will likely have a more diverse group (since North American and Asian skaters have a chance to qualify), but fewer total competitors, thanks to the cap of six per discipline. Overall quality of competition is likely to be higher at the GPF, due to how selection works, but there’s less overall skating and less of a chance to discover someone new (though if you attend the JGPF, that’s less of an issue).

As far as your chance of seeing Med goes... if she makes the GPF, she’s likely to make Euros, I would think, unless she only makes the GPF as a replacement. Euro selection is usually quite transparent: it boils down to nationals. Of course, if Med makes the GPF, she’s very likely to be on track to do well at nationals and even if she isn’t one of the top two seniors, she could easily have a case on body of work for the season thus far. Her odds of making the GPF are pretty much unknown at this point.

It depends on which disciplines you favour — if you’re a big fan of the men, then the GPF is an easy call, as there are at least four likely qualifiers who won’t be eligible for Euros (Nathan Chen, Shoma Uno, Yuzuru Hanyu, and Junwhan Cha). (If you’re hoping for Aliev and Kolyada, though, Euros is the better bet — either or both could definitely make the GPF, but they’re not locks the way the others are. Ditto for Boyang, who usually peaks around Chinese nationals and 4CC en route to delivering at Worlds.) On the other hand, if your main focus is the ladies... I’d still take the GPF. There are definitely skaters I’d miss being able to see (such as Paganini), but odds are good you’ll be able to see some of the top skaters from Japan and Korea — Rika Kihara, Kaori Sakamoto, and Eunsoo Lim are all likely to be in the mix for the GPF. And if your main focus is the Russian ladies... you’re better off with the GPF, since there’s no limit on the number of skaters a given country can have qualify, and if you can also see the JGP events, you’ll see far more of the top Russian ladies than just the three picked for the Euros team. Russia could very well supply the entire ladies field for the GPF, depending on how events are allocated — Med, Zagitova, and the 3A will all be competitive for spots, and assuming the rumours of Tuktamysheva retiring are greatly exaggerated, that’s six. The more likely scenario is Japan versus Russia (possibly also Korea?), and being able to see some of Japan and Korea’s top talent alongside Russia’s is a hard thing to pass up.

Personally, I’d go for the GPF, especially if you can also watch the JGPF events, as that’s roughly the same amount of total skating you’d see at Euros but with a higher level of competition for each event. There’s definitely a large group of skaters who you’ll likely have to miss seeing based on the event you pick, and then a much narrower band of overlap — I’d draw the Venn diagram and see how many of your favourites are Euros-only versus GPF-only. The main argument against the GPF is that anything can happen during the GP events, and someone you’re expecting to see may not qualify, whereas outside the Russian team for Euros, you’ll probably know the Euros lineup well in advance. (Of course, there can still be shake ups there with withdrawals and injury.) But the GPF is known for skaters bringing their A-game, and the judges are fond of handing out SBs and even PBs (well, PBs are a bit less shocking with the changes to the scoring system). And from what people have written, it seems like the GPF is a pretty fun, hype event.

I’m biased toward the GP final due to one group of skaters for the singles disciplines, as I have autoimmune, so I can see myself more easily being able to handle a single flight at a time (and then the smaller flights for dance and pairs). Plus, having the chance to see the JGPF and senior GPF skaters is really appealing, as the juniors are known for outskating the seniors, and it’s a chance to see some of the skaters who will be a real threat in the next season or two early. The lack of a geographic restriction is definitely appealing.

Either way, have fun! I would love to see skating live someday. And beyond the skating... which city would you rather spend the money to visit, if you haven’t yet? I’d throw up a thread in The Edge or the relevant forum to see how others who have visited feel about Torino and Graz in terms of public transit, cost of hotels near the venue, food, etc. Alas, while I did some solo backpacking while living in Europe, I didn’t stay in either Torino or Graz, so I can often no wisdom. [emoji23] But, really, it’s hard to make a bad choice! As for maximizing your odds of seeing Med... well, there are six spots available at GPF versus three at Euros, but while qualifying for the GPF is a leading indicator for being selected for Euros, not making the GPF doesn’t disqualify someone for the Euros team. You could wait to see what GP assignments look like before starting to book anything, since the odds of anyone making the GPF will be much clearer once we see how deep the competition at each GP event is. It’s possible, even probable, that we’ll see skaters win one event and finish off the podium at another, leading to lots of skaters on the bubble as the series progresses.
 
Can I just take a moment to appreciate how long and full of detail your posts always are, Metis? If we need someone with reason, logical analysis of situations and/or spins (especially spins! :biggrin: ) we can always count on you! So, thank you. :)

On thatbeatinghearts's original question: I'll make a guess and just say Euros... If she needs some more time, it's more likely that she'll be completely ready at Nationals than GP series. And I'll probably be totally wrong like with most of my predictions so far. :laugh: But I might go to Euros next year, too (it's in my country) so if Zhenya happens to go, we should definitely have a goldenskate Zhenya-fanfest group meeting. I have never done that kind of thing and it would surely be a lot of fun. :)
 
Thank you so much for your in-depth analysis, Metis! You mentioned a few points I didn't think about and provided some information I didn't have. My main focus is on the Ladies and Men but I'm also interested in Pairs and Ice Dance so I imagine that Euros could be a little overwhelming for a first-time-visitor. Zhenya's chances of making the GPF will probably depend a lot on which assignments she gets, are they usually announced in June like they were this season? And does anyone know when tickets typically become available for these competitions? I tried to follow it this season but it's giving me a hard time, I either hear about it too late or not at all. :scratch2:

I'm leaning slightly towards GPF, I haven't been to either city but in Torino I might actually have time to see something while I'd probably live in the rink in Graz. :laugh: I'll open a thread in The Edge when it's time, thanks for the suggestion!

Also, good point from you, Fluture! I forgot about the 18-month-thing so it could very well be that she'll be ready rather at Nationals/Euros than at the GP's. Maybe I'll magically be able to save up money for both competitions. (Why do I have to live in the middle of nowhere, travelling is soo expensive. :laugh: ). I'd love a fanfest-meet-up! I don't have anyone who'd accompany me so it would be great not to be alone the whole time.

Or we'll just travel to RusNats, that's probably the safest bet to see her. :laugh: (As far as safety goes in figure skating lol)
 
Fun fact: there's this ad for EC on my local TV (Europeans are in my country), and Zhenya's in it. It's just a video montage of different skaters, but still:(:(
 
Lunalovesskating said:
Cutie pie https://twitter.com/MedvedevaNation/status/1083895243483820036?s=19
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So she‘s training in Sokolovskaya‘s team. Now at least that mystery‘s solved. The one who originally posted it on instagram tagged Samarin and sokolovskaya‘s team.

grey19 said:
Fun fact: there's this ad for EC on my local TV (Europeans are in my country), and Zhenya's in it. It's just a video montage of different skaters, but still:(:(
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It still doesn‘t feel real that she‘s not competing in EC. :(
 
Fluture said:
So she‘s training in Sokolovskaya‘s team. Now at least that mystery‘s solved. The one who originally posted it on instagram tagged Samarin and sokolovskaya‘s team.
At least they seem to have good relationships. I remember there was a picture of two of them hugging tightly after Test Skates in Moscow.
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grey19 said:
At least they seem to have good relationships. I remember there was a picture of two of them hugging tightly after Test Skates in Moscow.
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True. She seems to be happy. I‘m still curious as to why she‘s still in Russia but I guess I‘ll have to be patient. Not one of my strengths, unfortunately. :biggrin:
 
“Medvedeva temporarily works at CSKA, and in a week she will go to Canada,” the agency’s source said. “She works individually, according to the plan of her coach Brian Orser, in Moscow nobody controls her at the side. She goes to the ice that is convenient for her, but riding at the same time as other CSKA skaters. "
https://rsport.ria.ru/20190112/1549277174.html
 
Hallelujah - some clarity - finally.

Brian is going to be with Javier at Euros, he said that in his interview w/ Jackie Wong.

Regardless, at least, some clarity.

skatingfan200 said:
“Medvedeva temporarily works at CSKA, and in a week she will go to Canada,” the agency’s source said. “She works individually, according to the plan of her coach Brian Orser, in Moscow nobody controls her at the side. She goes to the ice that is convenient for her, but riding at the same time as other CSKA skaters. "
https://rsport.ria.ru/20190112/1549277174.html
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