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Speaking of Dias that there's a number of people in fstwt are taking a notice of him in both of his performances to the point that he's referring him as Kazakh Patrick Chan.
Overall, I am not a fan of labeling skaters as repeats of someone. Jirenbayev is a good skater in his own right, but iirc he doesn't have solid jumping technique/ability that distinguished Chan (for his decade).

Unfortunately, all jr Kaakstani men performed better in summer selections at home so far than in JGP stages. Fingers crossed for a better outing. Ten Memorial is going to be a great showcase.
 
Overall, I am not a fan of labeling skaters as repeats of someone. Jirenbayev is a good skater in his own right, but iirc he doesn't have solid jumping technique/ability that distinguished Chan (for his decade).

Unfortunately, all jr Kaakstani men performed better in summer selections at home so far than in JGP stages. Fingers crossed for a better outing. Ten Memorial is going to be a great showcase.
I'm aware of that since I noticed at fstwt which they have gone overboard. I have to admit he needs to find a jumping coach that will help his specific needs and he's quite tall (around 180 cm) which it involves with money which Germany's cost of living expenses are much higher than in Bergamo Italy where Rakhat trains there most of the time.

He can go to Mishin's camp at St. Petersburg during the off season plus he needs to buy specific equipment from the professor to practice during the ongoing seasons.
 
Jirenbayev has lots of potential, but has been very inconsistent so far. Unless he can find consistency, he is unlikely to be able to dislodge Mikhail Shaidorov.
 
I think that regardless her placement that she need to secure her CTES for this challenger which is the main priority as of the moment.
For sure. Fingers crossed she does enough for it in her free.
 
And a silver medal! Great start for Samodelkina, now she can focus on training and selecting her tournaments based on how it goes!

Now, it's up to Shaidorov to make Kazakstan proud. Fingers crossed for him!
Misha has made a lot of improvements for a short period of time along with the opportunity to train overseas and he should be proud of himself.
 
Silver is a great result, especially after Gutmann piled the pressure on with that free skate. She had to deliver in the second half and she executed.

This time next year she will have had a year of intensive training and competition under her belt, with the Olympics 4 months away providing additional motivation, she'll be in contention for GP medals.
 
Silver is a great result, especially after Gutmann piled the pressure on with that free skate. She had to deliver in the second half and she executed.

This time next year she will have had a year of intensive training and competition under her belt, with the Olympics 4 months away providing additional motivation, she'll be in contention for GP medals.
I agree, that involves with retraining with the body that she have post puberty and the time that she have that she will get her 3A and one of her quads but more on her 3A before the Olympics.
 
I agree, that involves with retraining with the body that she have post puberty and the time that she have that she will get her 3A and one of her quads but more on her 3A before the Olympics.
Of course, no-one is peaking this time of year, but she's outscoring Hendrickx and her jumps are much better, her jumps are significantly better than Levito who got silver last year, and she's jumping better than Sakamoto at the moment (that will change though).
 
We will see how Samodelkina will work her way into her new abilities; it's a joy that she now has this opportunity. I can certainly see growth from Shaidorov, though he usually looks better on TV than live. I wouldn't see anyone live this year though, which is sad... aww. I hope Shaidorov's free skate develops since it is a bit patchy right now.
 
Eteri has something cooking here. That's the Team Tutberidze or Russian team doctor/physiotherapist next to Sofya right? Probably wouldn't drag him to Astana just for Egadze or I could be wrong? Has she made a fool of Plushenko again? It seemed all very cozy between Eteri and the Kazakhs all event. This is them watching Misha at the end.

Sofya has no long term coach at the moment, you cannot tell me the thought of taking her on hasn't crossed Eteri's mind. It's the only way she'll be at the Olympics or World's with a female skater.

This makes sense for everyone.

Maybe they were never planning to go to Raf, but using him as a backup if Eteri isn't willing to take her on. Maybe force her to make a decision as well by saying we're heading over there in October. Setting Sofya up in California would come at enormous cost to the federation, it's a foreign culture, no guarantee of success. It's already the 5th October, and it's all gone quiet with Raf.

If you thought Plushenko and Yana were angry now, just wait.

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Eteri has something cooking here. That's the Team Tutberidze or Russian team doctor/physiotherapist next to Sofya right? Probably wouldn't drag him to Astana just for Egadze or I could be wrong? Has she made a fool of Plushenko again? It seemed all very cozy between Eteri and the Kazakhs all event. This is them watching Misha at the end.

Sofya has no long term coach at the moment, you cannot tell me the thought of taking her on hasn't crossed Eteri's mind. It's the only way she'll be at the Olympics or World's with a female skater.

This makes sense for everyone.

Maybe they were never planning to go to Raf, but using him as a backup if Eteri isn't willing to take her on. Maybe force her to make a decision as well by saying we're heading over there in October. Setting Sofya up in California would come at enormous cost to the federation, it's a foreign culture, no guarantee of success. It's already the 5th October, and it's all gone quiet with Raf.

If you thought Plushenko and Yana were angry now, just wait.

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Given her back issues, I think it would be a very bad move for Sofya. The pre-rotation technique Tutberidze teaches puts enormous strain on skaters backs. I would be concerned that it would become a career-ending coaching move for Sofya. She needs to look after her back, not put even more strain on it.
 
Given her back issues, I think it would be a very bad move for Sofya. The pre-rotation technique Tutberidze teaches puts enormous strain on skaters backs. I would be concerned that it would become a career-ending coaching move for Sofya. She needs to look after her back, not put even more strain on it.
I understand you might be right, but it's a small sample size. I don't think Eteri would aim for ultra-c this season, or possibly at all. However, she could do back to back 3A jumps not long ago maybe 4-5 months ago. She would just perfect the program, improve the spins, increase stamina. She would be happy to go to World's this year with someone who could potentially get in the last group. Sofya right now can jump a lutz combo effortlessly. Jumps are probably the last things she will work on with her.
 
Eteri has something cooking here. That's the Team Tutberidze or Russian team doctor/physiotherapist next to Sofya right? Probably wouldn't drag him to Astana just for Egadze or I could be wrong? Has she made a fool of Plushenko again? It seemed all very cozy between Eteri and the Kazakhs all event. This is them watching Misha at the end.

Sofya has no long term coach at the moment, you cannot tell me the thought of taking her on hasn't crossed Eteri's mind. It's the only way she'll be at the Olympics or World's with a female skater.

This makes sense for everyone.

Maybe they were never planning to go to Raf, but using him as a backup if Eteri isn't willing to take her on. Maybe force her to make a decision as well by saying we're heading over there in October. Setting Sofya up in California would come at enormous cost to the federation, it's a foreign culture, no guarantee of success. It's already the 5th October, and it's all gone quiet with Raf.

If you thought Plushenko and Yana were angry now, just wait.

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That reminds of what happened to Lilbet and sure that she got what she & her mom wanted but at the cost of her injuries which it brings an unpleasant taste to international viewers yet they didn't know that Tursynbaeva was with Etiri before she was forced to move out because of the ban in regard to the 2014 Sochi Olympics.

I was thinking of why not Mishin instead of Eteri since he's Plushenko's and Liza Tuktamysheva's coach if they want to have Sofia's career to be long-term.
 
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I don't like either Tutberidze nor Mishin. Both are adepts of the harsh style training, with unacceptable high instances of trauma/unreasonable demands to body shape and Samodelkina is already plenty self-motivated. Samodelkina needs the same coach who trains Sakomoto or Glenn who understands mature skating and can leverage advantages of older athletic women body builds.
 
I don't like either Tutberidze nor Mishin. Both are adepts of the harsh style training, with unacceptable high instances of trauma/unreasonable demands to body shape and Samodelkina is already plenty self-motivated. Samodelkina needs the same coach who trains Sakomoto or Glenn who understands mature skating and can leverage advantages of older athletic women body builds.
I understand on how you felt about both coaches although I would rather drop off Tammy Gambil than causing havoc on her rotions since she have cause enough damage to her skaters especially those who came from small fed countries.

I think that it was Damon Allen who handles Glenn most of the time.

I would not recommend Gambil to handle older skaters since she didn't handle them well which I noticed the regression her skaters has especially when it comes through puberty. Sure she did "well" on younger skaters but handled worse when they grow older. What she is best for politics which she has the scope in US not to mention that she is liken to a 2nd hand car salesman.
 
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