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Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

icetigger said:
Thanks! Got to admit I look at those scores and think- but how did the top eight or so teams all get level fours on their step sequences! And why can't they all get them now? i wasn't in to the sport that analytically at the time; and one of things when researching information for a current understanding is that changes in rules are very difficult to pinpoint (like I can't out when the ladies were able to start doing solo 3a in the sp). And with the rules of ice dance being so intricate, even tiny changes can produce significant result differences. I wish the protocols were even more analytic than those provided- like they listed how levels are achieved on lifts; and also what features were with step sequences. But I guess that then the arguments that are currently limited to rotation and edge calls on jumps and a few other bits would become interminable. But it's good to have an eye-witness account that those scores were noteworthy at the time!
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I suppose that when it comes to ice dance, and especially the step sequences, it's about how the technical panel interprets the elements and the execution of the turns more than anything. I can't claim to be particularly well-versed in the technicalities of ice dance, and just like you I wish it was more transparent (e.g. if there is a mistake in the stsq, I'd love to see a slo-mo replay of it, to really understand the subsequent score). However, I do believe that the step sequences in particular are a bit of a gray area, and they do depend on the tech panel's often subjective understanding of current rules.
 
I was listening to a famous French ballerina answering questions about performing and she said something which reminded me of audiences' reaction when P/C skate: dancers while on stage performing are fully aware whether the audience are enthralled with their performance by the quality of the silence. I'm always struck, wherever in the world P/C skate, how silent is the crowd, how they often stop themselves from applauding, even through the screen it's obvious. The quality of silence ... They actually said they would love to skate a program on silence and they also usually prefer instrumental music. Less is definitely more with them. Their skating is doing all the talking.
On a side note, is it the longest stretch of time they've had since the GP started to go back to work ? Being the Olympic year there isn't any one month stretch of quiet for those skaters, it's crazy. But they will have had close to a full 3 weeks before Euros if I'm counting right.
 
cocotaffy said:
I was listening to a famous French ballerina answering questions about performing and she said something which reminded me of audiences' reaction when P/C skate: dancers while on stage performing are fully aware whether the audience are enthralled with their performance by the quality of the silence. I'm always struck, wherever in the world P/C skate, how silent is the crowd, how they often stop themselves from applauding, even through the screen it's obvious. The quality of silence ... They actually said they would love to skate a program on silence and they also usually prefer instrumental music. Less is definitely more with them. Their skating is doing all the talking.
On a side note, is it the longest stretch of time they've had since the GP started to go back to work ? Being the Olympic year there isn't any one month stretch of quiet for those skaters, it's crazy. But they will have had close to a full 3 weeks before Euros if I'm counting right.
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Torvill and Dean skating to silence (for the first half of the programme); not sure that it doesn't make the second half more beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-N3F0miVEs&t=127s
 
icetigger said:
Thanks for sharing this. JoJo Starbuck made a very similar comment on Torvill and Dean here.

https://youtu.be/3mlMb8HsPFc?t=1m7s
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This is mesmerizing, one of their best routine I think. Their intensity is spellbinding, I find a lot of qualities I love in P/C being similar to the one I love in T/D: a truly unique style and way of moving which is unmistakably theirs, a very strong male partner who is at least as much the star as the female if not stealing the spotlight depending on the program, such an intensity between them which command silence in the audience as if we're witnessing a very private moment, but when comes the fun routine like this year's latin then it's fresh, fast and light. Those teams also have/had a real vision of where they wanted the sport to go and a clear desire to express feelings and impressions from deep within them, like visions. Plus a truck load of charisma you just can't buy or learn.

About silence, I remember watching this very interesting documentary about T/D where they explain this silent routine of theirs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X134rL2NNjM
 
For those who cannot access the video !

They are filming this in Montreal. P/C are polishing their programs.

They spend 4 hours per day on the ice + add massage therapy, muscular training : their day never ends. They say P/C are "possessed by their sport and their choreography".
After audacity from last years' programs, back to classical - Bethoveen. Olympic year is not about risks.
Guillaume : "we experimented last year, we wanted to go back to something classical."

When ice time is over : interpretation class wth Catherine Pinard (she says : "are you ready, babes ?" :D)
We see then black&white small shots of GG during that class.
Guillaume : "It's inspiring to make researches on the compositor's life, what he has to offer. What's cool is to imagine and to let yourself be carried by that and it inspired us for our own interpretation of our program."

Change of scenery : muscular training. (We also see them playing around like kids :D)

Change again back on the ice. Voice over : The french are training with their main rival for OGM, Virtue & Moir. The camera turns to them (funny to see them all on the ice !)
Gabriella : "A part of us doesn't want to train together, like "Oh no, we'd like to train as if we were home", but it brings us a lot when we see them work, it gives to that rivalry, to what V/M represents a more human side."
(there are a small clip o all f them on the ice, then GG rehearsing their No-touch and more).
Voice over : To keep all chances on their side, the team called an Ice Dance legend, Christopher Dean (And we see him choreographing with them on video !!! :biggrinbo)
Christopher Dean : "Gabriella and Guillaume are very creative. We ive them a small idea, they'll develop it and make something from it. This are the mark of a great champion."

Change of scenery : Lyon, at their stylist's place, costume fitting.
Voice over : Guillaume, former "Beaux-art" student, took part in the costume creation process.
Then back on the ice in Lyon, to try the costumes.
Voice over : Everything seems ready for the beginning of the season. Confirmation a few weeks later with a WR (in China, with some footage from the FD). "The OGM arms are openned".

Here you go ! :D
 
Harriet said:
Thanks so much, Anyasnake! I wasn't able to get to the video so your transcript is much appreciated. :thumbsup:
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Thank you so much, Anyasnake, for the link! I wasn't able to view the video through the link you provided but I found it in another URL (see below). I live in the U.S. and I was able to view the video found in the link below. Hopefully, it will work for you, too, Harriet:

https://www.lci.fr/sport/dans-les-c...a-papadakis-et-guillaume-cizeron-2075562.html
 
Yeah, I can't see anything on either link... :sad4:
I suppose it will take a YT video for me to see this. Nothing found yet. :cry:
 
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