He was also financing their training until she was released because they didn't qualify for funding. So yeah, he really must have believed in the partnership to put so much on the line. They both seem to really value and respect each other
Illyushechkina/Moscovitch vs. Moore-Towers/Marinaro
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Well obviously anyone with good taste is going to say I/M. They're exciting, fresh and despite the mistakes you still love them anyway.
About MT/M, its really embarrassing how bad they've done this season
Everything about their programs and skating is so contrived and weak and it looks even worse since Kristen was 4th in Worlds a year ago. It's so bad that they're getting passed by a junior team who isn't even that great yet (though S/B have a very bright future ahead of them).
I don't know what can be done here. It's easy to say he needs more training but my question is why didn't the coaching team address these issues when they first paired up? Maybe in addition to the style and technique overhaul, these two should also seek new coaches?
About MT/M, its really embarrassing how bad they've done this season
Everything about their programs and skating is so contrived and weak and it looks even worse since Kristen was 4th in Worlds a year ago. It's so bad that they're getting passed by a junior team who isn't even that great yet (though S/B have a very bright future ahead of them).
I don't know what can be done here. It's easy to say he needs more training but my question is why didn't the coaching team address these issues when they first paired up? Maybe in addition to the style and technique overhaul, these two should also seek new coaches?
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I candidly do think Kirsten has made some mistakes here, yes, but in fairness tryouts are I think tricky and you kind of do end up making a rather quick decision based chiefly on the vibe/feeling you get over usually just 2 days (sometimes even just 1 day, very rarely more than 3). It's really not possible in that amount of time to know how things will ultimately play out- you just know how you feel about it and make your best guess.
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I hope we get to see this lift from I/M next season in competition: http://instagram.com/p/yVf6pOyXlo
I love Kaetlyn and Andrew's faces. lol
That's a pretty spectacular lift!
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Would you be so good to post a link if not to the actual video at least to her FB page? I cannot seem to find it :/ Thank you!
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152571107277617&pnref=story
Here it is.
As an aside, there seems to be a rather adorable friendship developing between Luba, Kaitlyn, and Alex Paul.
Here it is.
As an aside, there seems to be a rather adorable friendship developing between Luba, Kaitlyn, and Alex Paul.
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Thanks!! I wonder if a front entry might work better instead... he didn't seem to have any real trouble muscling her up once she was in front of him.
Obviously it needs serious work but if they could hit that position in competition that would be COOL.
So pleased with I/M's progress this year!
I think it is far too early to write off M-T/M as they are both young in their first year together. However, I would question the coaching they are receiving. The lifts have looked laboured all season long....I mean how many people have commented on this in the past few months??! I don't understand why they aren't doing lifts that they can manage well in their programs. It simply looks awful with all the struggling they are doing. Why would they not change them? I really can't understand this. I think the bad looking lifts are really harmful to their reputation....just my two cents... I do wish both teams much success!
I think it is far too early to write off M-T/M as they are both young in their first year together. However, I would question the coaching they are receiving. The lifts have looked laboured all season long....I mean how many people have commented on this in the past few months??! I don't understand why they aren't doing lifts that they can manage well in their programs. It simply looks awful with all the struggling they are doing. Why would they not change them? I really can't understand this. I think the bad looking lifts are really harmful to their reputation....just my two cents... I do wish both teams much success!
I suspect Kristen's problem in lifts is that she isn't adept in assisting in the lift by projecting herself upwards while her partner lifts her. Even with Dylan, I could see him straining at times because she seemed to be a dead weight.
Even though she is small in stature, she is not that teeny-tiny in body type, so her not fully assisting in the lift is an extra burden for her partner. Marinaro was able to lift Margaret Purdy, a much taller woman who did obviously contribute fully to the lift, otherwise he would never have been able to lift her the past few years, as she was close to his height.
Even though she is small in stature, she is not that teeny-tiny in body type, so her not fully assisting in the lift is an extra burden for her partner. Marinaro was able to lift Margaret Purdy, a much taller woman who did obviously contribute fully to the lift, otherwise he would never have been able to lift her the past few years, as she was close to his height.
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Thank you for the video! Luba and Patrick stayed in Detroit for a while while waiting for her Canadian visa and many Canadian skaters let them crash with them for free- Weapo, Alex & Paul, Patrick Chan, and a couple of others I think. I always thought that was so sweet and I love that they've embraced Luba
I don't think Kirsten is wrong to assume Dylan isn't the best bet for her in the long run. Assuming Dylan (or Kirsten) has a major injury, he will be more inclined to retire instead of going through long rehab and wait, whereas if one of Kirsten and Marinaro has an injury, sitting out a season wouldn't be too big of a deal. I assume Lubov is quite unlikely to get citizenship in time, so the way things stand, KMT and Marinaro still stand a higher chance for Korea.
WOW Patrick is now doing pairs
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No, she can actually probably get the citizenship in time, though it will be tight. You have to have resided in Canada for 3 of the past 4 years. It will be tight and she will probably need the actual application itself to be expedited and not sitting in an office somewhere for a few months as these things tend to be but she will be eligible and I'd say it is actually likely she can get it... it's not a death trap like the USA.
She has to get landed immigrant status (or whatever they're calling it these days - permanent residence?) first, and I don't think she has that. It took my daughter in law almost a year to get that, and she was married to a Canadian. And the application for citizenship, if not expedited, will take more like years, not months.
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If I/M continue to do well, they will most likely get an exemption to have their citizenship expedited which Skate Canada will undoubtedly push for. Per this article: "[Piper] Gilles had her citizenship expedited under what’s known as the “five-four” section of the Citizenship Act, which allows the Minister of Immigration to grant citizenship “to alleviate cases of special and unusual hardship or to reward services of an exceptional value to Canada. It’s been used more than 500 times since 1977, often for athletes. Chinese-born Eugene Zhen Wang used it to compete at the 2012 Games in London, and fellow figure skater Kaitlyn Weaver used the five-four ahead of the Vancouver Games.”"
Yes, skaters do seem to get citizenship much faster than mere mortals. I looked up Kaitlin Weaver and Piper Gilles and they both partnered with a Canadian after one Olympics and received Canadian citizenship prior to the next Olympics. In both cases, the expedited citizenship was for naught, as they just missed making the Olympic team. (Weaver in 2010 and Gilles in 2014).
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