Johnny Weir's "Positive" Qualities
- Thread starter Bennett
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It so is. I've watched his CoR LP numerous times, and I still get a little thrill knowing that move is coming. Plus that look on his face as he strikes the ending pose. All "Take That!" intensity slowly sliding into a sweet (no doubt relieved) smile.
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I finally realized what skater Weir reminds me most of;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6YaVA4RdRE
Vladimir Kotin, a multi Euro silver medadlist from the mid 80's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6YaVA4RdRE
Vladimir Kotin, a multi Euro silver medadlist from the mid 80's.
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thank you for starting this fantastic thread! I have read "the other two threads" and was really disgusted with some commets there, and had no desire to contribute something positive and thereby to give more ammunition to certain "haters".
I really can't state anything better than what already has been mention, but I will try a few things...
I was mesmorized by Johnny's skating since I saw him 8 years ago or so at SA.
His spins are incredible.
Amazing jumps and flow across the ice.
otonal...one word is enough.
so gracious to his fans
skates with the music, not to the music.
I am so happy that he has been so successful this season, that he is focused and determined more than ever.
Here's to at least 3 more gold medals this season, Johnny!
I really can't state anything better than what already has been mention, but I will try a few things...
I was mesmorized by Johnny's skating since I saw him 8 years ago or so at SA.
His spins are incredible.
Amazing jumps and flow across the ice.
otonal...one word is enough.
so gracious to his fans
skates with the music, not to the music.
I am so happy that he has been so successful this season, that he is focused and determined more than ever.
Here's to at least 3 more gold medals this season, Johnny!
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Johnny was at the start of his game (before you knew he existed, and I did - as I do with Adam Rippon) that he is special. He always had the talent which is agreed to by most posters.
At the forthcoming US Naionals, he will compete with Evan Lysacek. Who will be th best that afternoon?, we have to wait and see. As to the GP Final, I consider that competition a dress rehearsal for the US Nats and Worlds. But interesting, yes. but signifying nothing.
Joe
At the forthcoming US Naionals, he will compete with Evan Lysacek. Who will be th best that afternoon?, we have to wait and see. As to the GP Final, I consider that competition a dress rehearsal for the US Nats and Worlds. But interesting, yes. but signifying nothing.
Joe
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I will give you that - Otonal is am impressive program... love the music (thank you Johnny for introducing it to me) and the choreography was perfect for it... if he skated that program for the rest of his career I wouldn't complain!
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I totally agree with you Toni. As much as I've seen that program, when he starts his straightline footwork, I get goosebumps. Other than most of Alexei's programs, that is my all time favorite.I will give you that - Otonal is am impressive program... love the music (thank you Johnny for introducing it to me) and the choreography was perfect for it... if he skated that program for the rest of his career I wouldn't complain!
Dee
Johnny is the one who made me interested in figure skating again.
I can't take my eyes off the tv when Johnny is skating
I don't always agree with what he says but I respect the fact that he's not afraid to speak his mind
I love the fact that he doesn't hesitate to praise other skaters
I love the unique friendship he has with Melissa and Denis
I love that his exhibition numbers mean something to him personally and that he, and not his coach or choreographer selects his competitive programs
I think it's cute that he still calls his parents mama and dada
I think it's great that he kept his part of the agreement and is paying for his brother's tuition.
I can't take my eyes off the tv when Johnny is skating
I don't always agree with what he says but I respect the fact that he's not afraid to speak his mind
I love the fact that he doesn't hesitate to praise other skaters
I love the unique friendship he has with Melissa and Denis
I love that his exhibition numbers mean something to him personally and that he, and not his coach or choreographer selects his competitive programs
I think it's cute that he still calls his parents mama and dada
I think it's great that he kept his part of the agreement and is paying for his brother's tuition.
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Bravo Rave!
I was never a Johnny fan until I saw him skating in COI in 05. That performance did something for me that none of his performances on tv ever did. I can't describe it but it was like looking at something through a jar and then taking off the top and looking again. The realness of his skating came through for me.
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I haven't seen Johnny live, which is horrible, but Johnny's skating does this for me -- even on TV! Thanks for the beautiful simile, Childfreegirl [love your screen name, too, btw]! And that happens even when he's "off" -- I was mesmerized by his Oly LP and didn't give a hoot (other than the effects on his placement) that he left out a jump pass, etc. I was just enthralled, and even my non-skating-fan husband said, "He looks like he belongs on the ice!" In a word, YES!!
Johnny creates something special whenever he steps out on the ice. And I like his personality, and don't find his so-called outrageousness nearly as shocking as non-fans do, or claim to do. I think he's actually pretty mild in most of what he says, and, as others have pointed out, he is quick to give credit and kudos to other skaters.
And I think Johnny has always worked pretty hard, too. He had a bad season last year, but actually, somewhere (on the net? in a newspaper?) was an article describing his training regimen and practice schedule (describing both his on-ice work and off-ice conditioning, etc.) and he put in the hours. Now, maybe he needed still more, or really just a different kind of practice (maybe what he's getting now with the new coaches!), but I actually am not convinced that Johnny ever failed to work hard at his skating. Now, mentally, he may have gotten distracted by other things (like fashion, shopping), but I get the sense that it is has become sort of accepted as fact Johnny didn't work very hard the last year or so. While clearly he was struggling competitively, I don't think he ever blew off skating or failed to work and train. JMO.
Thanks, Johnny, for skating -- for yourself and for all of us!
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You are all probably surprised to see me, an admitted, dedicated Evan fan posting here. However, I admire Johnny tremendously for waking up after last season and making the switch in his coaching and training discipline. Even though I have never been a fan, I do believe his skating is beautiful, and it pained me to see him sliding downhill and seeming to be wasting his talent. No one so talented should allow that to happen.
You could have knocked me over with feather when I read his article in IFS magazine where he talked about being out of shape and the changes he need to make. And the last interview with Peter Carruthers after CoR was so humble and forthright where he admitted that he was into too much celebritydom and not into his skating last season, and now he was just totally focused on skating. I admire him for his honesty and his ability to admit his mistakes of the past and his efforts to correct them. I wish him the best of luck in his new training regimen. It will be very hard for him and he has alot of ground to make up. But he is finally making wise choices as an athlete.
You could have knocked me over with feather when I read his article in IFS magazine where he talked about being out of shape and the changes he need to make. And the last interview with Peter Carruthers after CoR was so humble and forthright where he admitted that he was into too much celebritydom and not into his skating last season, and now he was just totally focused on skating. I admire him for his honesty and his ability to admit his mistakes of the past and his efforts to correct them. I wish him the best of luck in his new training regimen. It will be very hard for him and he has alot of ground to make up. But he is finally making wise choices as an athlete.
You're right, this is shocking! But I do appreciate your love of figure skating. Everyone on this board has that in common.- Joined
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LOL, we'll all have to be there for each other if Johnny doesn't win back his title, either that or go get hammered together. 
Johnny and Sasha were the two skaters that made me first watch this sport because they were the only two that really made me think, wow. Johnny's skating seems so easy. What I mean by that is it seems like he's not even trying. I know he is, but it doesn't look that way. His jumps are so light and airy with that perfect smooth ride out. When he's in the air he doesn't look like he's having to "hang on" or "muscle" through the jump like a lot of the others. He also skates with his whole body, he's integrating choreography into every movement with the music, from his arms to his pinkie fingers. There are few things I'd change about his skating. I'd like him to be a bit faster at times and I want him to work some on bringing up his spin and footwork levels, but as a whole I think he's one of the more well rounded skaters out there right now in that he clearly cares about the over all effect of the piece and not just the athletics of it.
Last season was awful and I think it's because he was flat burned out and that he needed coach changing. I got very irritated with him last season because I felt that he didn't seem to care about how well or in that case awful he was doing. I was almost relieved when he did so poorly at nationals because I think it smacked some sense into him. I just wish it didn't take so much to get him motivated sometimes.
As far as his persona goes, he rarely if ever bothers me by what he says. I think it might be because I'm young. I just find different things funny.
Johnny and Sasha were the two skaters that made me first watch this sport because they were the only two that really made me think, wow. Johnny's skating seems so easy. What I mean by that is it seems like he's not even trying. I know he is, but it doesn't look that way. His jumps are so light and airy with that perfect smooth ride out. When he's in the air he doesn't look like he's having to "hang on" or "muscle" through the jump like a lot of the others. He also skates with his whole body, he's integrating choreography into every movement with the music, from his arms to his pinkie fingers. There are few things I'd change about his skating. I'd like him to be a bit faster at times and I want him to work some on bringing up his spin and footwork levels, but as a whole I think he's one of the more well rounded skaters out there right now in that he clearly cares about the over all effect of the piece and not just the athletics of it.
Last season was awful and I think it's because he was flat burned out and that he needed coach changing. I got very irritated with him last season because I felt that he didn't seem to care about how well or in that case awful he was doing. I was almost relieved when he did so poorly at nationals because I think it smacked some sense into him. I just wish it didn't take so much to get him motivated sometimes.
As far as his persona goes, he rarely if ever bothers me by what he says. I think it might be because I'm young. I just find different things funny.
I'm old enough to be Johnny's mama, but I think some of his comments are hilarious. When I don't, I try to remember that I said some questionable things when I was his age. And I want in on the after-party -- win, lose or draw!
I always say that Johnny is my favorite ... except when he makes me so mad I could spit. He hasn't done that this year so I'm happy about that. And that smile after CoC was so exquisite, I almost cried. He skated the best I can remember since the Torino Swan.
He hasn't done that Q thing yet. But I think he will jump when Galina says jump. After he asks how high.
Susan
I always say that Johnny is my favorite ... except when he makes me so mad I could spit.
He hasn't done that Q thing yet. But I think he will jump when Galina says jump. After he asks how high.
He sure sparks emotions.Calling it that Q thing is sort of cute! And I agree on the Galina part.
It would be difficult to coordinate but we could pull it off.LOL, we'll all have to be there for each other if Johnny doesn't win back his title, either that or go get hammered together.
That or a victory party instead!
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It would be difficult to coordinate but we could pull it off.
That or a victory party instead!
Either way ... I'm there.
Count me in, too. There was also the suggestion of the need for sedatives.LOL, we'll all have to be there for each other if Johnny doesn't win back his title, either that or go get hammered together.
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Shoot, you guys aren't the only ones. Evan fans are going to need sedatives too!
One thing is for certain, and that is, we have to allow Johnny and Evan to duke it out on the ice, and, as fans, stay out of it. Our job is to support them, because they both are going to need all the support they can get.:agree:
(Surprised you again, I'll bet.
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One thing is for certain, and that is, we have to allow Johnny and Evan to duke it out on the ice, and, as fans, stay out of it. Our job is to support them, because they both are going to need all the support they can get.:agree:
(Surprised you again, I'll bet.
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