if kamila didn't skate the team event she would still go the same process thought she might get lesser scruriny from the media. it's because the outcome will determine the team event as well
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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No, it wasn't stated like that. There was never any statement claiming 12 hours per day as a norm for Eteri skaters. People very often take a fragment from their mind and change it to their agenda. Like with Shabotova's words about "doping", which was stated as a joke as the dope stated by her was "chocolate". But of course people remember only the first part.
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As long as a banned substance was found in your system, there must be an inquiry about it
and you would need to take a cooling period from participating in competition, not necessarily get banned.
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Who, pray, is Anya??
Pet name for Anna, I think, like Sasha is for Alexandra.
Anna Shcherbakova. Anya is the diminutive form of Anna in Russian.
Yes, even if you are innocent, suspencion is mandatory. I think it depends on what kind of substance it is though.
I was thinking of Norwegian cross country skier Therese Johaug. She used an ointment for her sunburnt lips. The oinment was bought in Italy and given to her by the Norwegian physician. He had missed that there was a forbidden substance in that ointment. Therese was suspended for a year by the Norwegian Authorities, but the FIS (the international ski federation) appealed the decision and CAS prolonged it to 18 months. Which meant that Johaug missed the Olympics 2018. She was innocent in all this and had to suffer a lot because of it. In this case, the substance was an anabolic steroid, so it might not be comparable to Kamila's case.
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I know it was a bonus scoring tactic but how come all other skaters were unable to do this if they were guaranteed a bonus? It would absolutely be worth the risk but most skaters would not have to stamina to land their big jumps safely two minutes into a very demanding programme... I thought there wasn't enough questions asked back then as to how the hell 16 year old Zagitova had the cardiovascular strength & stamina to perform such difficult jumps midway & at the end of her programme..
I agree with most of what you said with the exception that we will never know if the doping made theses women the champions they are.
Sure they have talent and natural ability, but does the consistency come from the drugs, does the extra practice time and quick recovery allow them to further there technical arsenal? Likely the answer is yes, otherwise why give them the drugs?
Sure they may be able to land quads without the drugs, but would they do it as often?
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Firstly I feel awful for Kamila. She is a victim in this scenario, and is going to experience abuse and hatred no 15-year-old ever should. The fault lies with her coaching team, who would have given her these substances. With that being said, she should be suspended. Unless RUSADA has video footage of someone tampering with the sample, Kamila has a doping test that has tested positive for a medication that improves a skaters' performance in training. Yes, she had previous negative tests, but that doesn't mean she's not taking it. As some have pointed out, athletes can be taking drugs and tapering off before competition, but this can backfire if they have a fluctuation in weight. Yes, it was just a microdose, but it was present, and the fact that RUSADA, which has a shady reputation to say the least, said "Yeah nah she can compete" is absurd. It's unfair to Kamila and the other competitors because she will be known as the girl who doped and her gold medal will have a giant asterisk next to it. And all the other skaters are going to feel like they're not on an equal playing field. I understand lessening rules for minors, but that still doesn't change the fact that she has an advantage over everyone else in the sport not just because of her fantastical natural talent but because of something her coaches gave her. I don't want her to be suspended, but she needs to be, for her sake and the sports'.
nobody said who administered or did .it will be up to the defendant. not even any official post about why its found and kamila used it as ped.
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I think looking at the decision making of the Russian federation in the past couple months,
they might've figured they could get away with it, maybe they could.
*upon further review better hold off on that until we know more*
they might've figured they could get away with it, maybe they could.
*upon further review better hold off on that until we know more*
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Lol, yeah. Judging by 99% of non-russian skaters, barely rotated triples is epitome of "clean athlete" then.
What kind of decision making are you talking about? The RusFed didn't know anything about this until this Tuesday.
That's why athletes don't drink from open bottles, they shouldn't take any chances. It's a tough life. They have chose carefully, whom they can trust. Kostner was bannend because her boyfriend made her lie about his whereabouts and she had seconds to make the decision to do it. Fair? Yes, because as a professional athlete she knew she must tell the truth, but she didn't know that he cheated.
There have been cases with hormones in meat and those athletes weren't bannend. But those things are so very difficult to prove. And the damage is done in any case, because those processes take time and the athlete can't compete.
I would say, that if it's possible that the unknowingly administered drug did enhance the performance, then a ban is necessary. Because there would be an unfair advantage. Would an athlete like Valieva probably still win? Yes, but if anyone doped Valieva without her and her parents knowledge, this person has commited a crime against her. And also against her competition. And what an utterly stupid thing to do in any case. But again, this was done, if it was done, to beat the competition inside of Russia.
Eteri is losing my respect by making Kamila face the journalists alone. She's there as a guardian of a minor and she should be protecting her ward.
I can't imagine how Kamila must be feeling right now. I hope RusFed are not forcing her to train if things are affecting her mentally. I know that, even as an adult, I would want to go home in her situation but I'm not an elite athlete.
I can't imagine how Kamila must be feeling right now. I hope RusFed are not forcing her to train if things are affecting her mentally. I know that, even as an adult, I would want to go home in her situation but I'm not an elite athlete.
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Can someone ban these nn, they are literally saying that all the women in the Tutberidze team are drug addicts, that there is no Russian woman who has won a tournament who does not dope...
This is the same rubbish as the another site latrine... it has hurt them so much to lose for years to Eteri that now they say the first stupid thing that comes to mind...
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That's interesting. So during this entire time period from Russian nationals till a few days ago,
no one in the Russia or Eteri's school has been notified of the test results, while they keep competing and looting slots?
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Yes, this is exactly what happened.
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