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I'm curious about all the athletes that have returned after retirement. Do they just reregister with WADA and their local anti-doping agency, or have they stayed in the testing pool the whole time? How does that work?
I know when Adam Rippon retired he told WADA he wasn’t competing anymore and they stopped coming. It’s a funny if some what gross story from his book. So they don’t stay in the testing pool. I’m sure he re registered, or will. No one wants WADA dropping by at any hour of the day or night to get samples when they aren’t competing.
 
My sense among the online X fs community (and that's a treasure chest and a cesspool all in one) is that "It's Roman's turn!" Hogwash. If it's his turn (or Gogo or Keegan or anyone else) then go out and prove it on the ice.

And, for the record, I maintain a healthy skepticism until proven that I shouldn't. About everybody.
Roman has been there already, so why it's his turn eludes me. But I still think: may the best man win. I will enjoy seeing Keegan again (I really liked his skating) but if Roman, Gogo or anyone else does better: it's their turn!
 
It seems like he wouldn't suddenly come back, in an Olympic season no less, unless there were some ironclad guarantees made. Seems like he's going to get gifted a place in the Olympic team. Let's see.

At this point, I'd wish they'd get rid of the Olympic team event there aren't enough competitive countries for it to be a real competition it's more of a way contrived way creating more figure skating content at the Olympics, and dangled as a carrot for the skaters of the major figure skating countries as some kind of consolation prize. It's of a medal for service rather than something won in competition.

I hope he's coming back for the right reasons because imo a team event medal is not worth 1/20th of what an individual/pairs event medal is worth in figure skating.
 
7) To those worried about spots for Roman or Gogolev or anyone else... thinking that Keegan may take someone else's spot... in all fairness, Covid took his Olympic team event spot... and it also took away most of his experience as he was super anxious, not knowing if he would get there in time and once arrived, pretty much had to get from the plane to the SP. So if there is anyone (and I personally believe that the best skaters should earn their spots and if someone else is better, then that's it) who should be getting some slack about this, it's Keegan. Also, Keegan was for a while the Canadian man placing the highest and getting that second spot for worlds and Olympics.. .Without Keegan, Roman wouldn't have had a spot in 2022... So he did his share to get spots for others...

I think i will stop here for now ;) i am happy . I cannot wait to hear you know who say " throw the cat among the pigeons :) "
I think he would have rather skated in the team event if he had to choose. I’ve never seen an athlete who was so proud and happy to represent their country. Is WTT next year?

I’m surprised you’re happy. I didn’t think you liked him.
 
I know when Adam Rippon retired he told WADA he wasn’t competing anymore and they stopped coming. It’s a funny if some what gross story from his book. So they don’t stay in the testing pool. I’m sure he re registered, or will. No one wants WADA dropping by at any hour of the day or night to get samples when they aren’t competing.
Oh yeah, it's a pain, and I say this from first-hand experience. I thought there might be rules to prevent scamming the system.

Google tells me there may be a 6-month waiting period between reentering the testing pool and return to competitions subject to WADA testing (or USADA, from my search). This makes sense, if true.
 
I'm curious about all the athletes that have returned after retirement. Do they just reregister with WADA and their local anti-doping agency, or have they stayed in the testing pool the whole time? How does that work?
Actually a pretty good question because I think Nobunari Oda had his comeback to Japanese Nationals foiled in 2023-2024, because he didn't re-register in time at the Japan Doping Agency to make him eligible to compete at Nationals. So he qualified for Nationals, but he can't compete due to that requirement.

With last minute unretirements like Keegan's, I assume he's not been off the pool all these years, he has re-registered himself in time, or it works differently in Canada.
 
My sense among the online X fs community (and that's a treasure chest and a cesspool all in one) is that "It's Roman's turn!" Hogwash. If it's his turn (or Gogo or Keegan or anyone else) then go out and prove it on the ice.

And, for the record, I maintain a healthy skepticism until proven that I shouldn't. About everybody.
Roman's turn ? Don't they remember he went in 2022... I guess nobody, even Roman would like to remember how underwhelming his performance was.
 
I think he would have rather skated in the team event if he had to choose. I’ve never seen an athlete who was so proud and happy to represent their country. Is WTT next year?

I’m surprised you’re happy. I didn’t think you liked him.
Keegan was not my favourite because I like others better. But not because I didn't like him :) saw him live and that guy can spin.
 
Gatineau (just across the river from Ottawa). Prepare to speak French (or perfect your deer-in-the-headlights look so the teenager waiting on you will realize you haven't understood a word of his explanation and switch to English. It worked for me.).
LOL... almost everyone speaks French in Gatineau...
 
Actually a pretty good question because I think Nobunari Oda had his comeback to Japanese Nationals foiled in 2023-2024, because he didn't re-register in time at the Japan Doping Agency to make him eligible to compete at Nationals. So he qualified for Nationals, but he can't compete due to that requirement.

With last minute unretirements like Keegan's, I assume he's not been off the pool all these years, he has re-registered himself in time, or it works differently in Canada.
WADA's requirements work the same everywhere. There is a 6 month waiting period.
 
I just saw this news, and I am looking forward to seeing Keegan skate again! I hope he has the skate of his life, and is proud of what he accomplishes, if that happens.

As for other skaters and "their turn", I can understand that way of thinking, as I felt that way about Jason Brown, especially after the season he had with issues with his jumps. He made me eat my words, and it was great to be in Boston and see him skate live.

Keegan says he has found the fire again, and regained his jumps. He deserves the chance to compete just like everyone else.
 
Roman's turn ? Don't they remember he went in 2022... I guess nobody, even Roman would like to remember how underwhelming his performance was.
I think a lot of people have become invested in Roman. A very large number of online fans have been flying high since Cranberry, rightfully celebrating that win. After a roller-coaster of a career, Roman wins his first international title!

And, a week later, with one Olympic spot on the line... Keegan the spoiler comes back. That's what they seem to feel anyway. I think there's also a group who semi-resent Gabby for coming back and threatening Maddie's spot. Just like in America there is some eye-rolling at the Shibs.

I dismiss these opinions entirely. If it's Roman's spot, or Maddie's spot, or Green and Parson's spot, then they'll all go out and prove they deserve it.
 
I think a lot of people have become invested in Roman. A very large number of online fans have been flying high since Cranberry, rightfully celebrating that win. After a roller-coaster of a career, Roman wins his first international title!

And, a week later, with one Olympic spot on the line... Keegan the spoiler comes back. That's what they seem to feel anyway. I think there's also a group who semi-resent Gabby for coming back and threatening Maddie's spot. Just like in America there is some eye-rolling at the Shibs.

I dismiss these opinions entirely. If it's Roman's spot, or Maddie's spot, or Green and Parson's spot, then they'll all go out and prove they deserve it.
Fair enough but how can fans resent someone like Gabby who has had such freak accidents, struggled for the last 3-4 years to regain her shape, is now healthy again but far from her peak level, from trying to end her career on her own terms? An olympic champion and world medalist should be given credit for coming back from so far back... she doesn't need more credentials... she is doing it for the love of skating. No matter where she ends in the rankings, and I doubt it will be first place at Nationals, I bow in reverence to her for her perseverance.

Regarding ShibSibs, sidelined by Maya's illness... they too, do not have anything to prove.

Keegan probably feels that his O games were stolen away from him, by Covid. He didn't get to experience the joy of taking part in those olympics and well, his life was taking him somewhere else with his family growing. He was also in pain throughout his last season.. His body was tired. Again, kudos to him... yes, unlike the other returning skaters (and there are more) he could want to pick up some hardware, especially the team event medal that alluded him in 2022... but again, and I said that in the Shibs thread :

To be competing at this level, the elite... top 20-30 skaters in the world, with such a difficult sport on the body, you cannot just show up after a while and hope for the best. Serious training and commitment are required and these athletes deserve the ultimate respect.

I am proud of Roman's and Stephen's achievements at Cranberry cup. They simply need to keep bringing their A game. I'd say that they are ahead of Keegan because they have indeed started competing well early in the season. Keegan's level could be similar to Gabby's at this point (good stuff but not all steady jumps) and that wouldn't be enough to beat 160 LPs. In other words, Roman fans need to stop whining ;) Roman just needs to perform well and that's the only thing HE can control. If Roman doesn't skate well, he won't be going to the games .... that's all. If he does skate well and gets beaten, then he will be able to say that he's tried his best and done what he could do.

Sorry, I quoted you and I know that we are on the same page here... so thank you for explaining why fans who were so excited about the Cranberry results turned sour so quickly because Keegan announced his retirement just after that.

I have been through this before as people also complained about Patrick's return and Virtue and Moir's return. Well, they returned and got the medals they deserved. :)
 
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I think a lot of people have become invested in Roman. A very large number of online fans have been flying high since Cranberry, rightfully celebrating that win. After a roller-coaster of a career, Roman wins his first international title!

And, a week later, with one Olympic spot on the line... Keegan the spoiler comes back. That's what they seem to feel anyway. I think there's also a group who semi-resent Gabby for coming back and threatening Maddie's spot. Just like in America there is some eye-rolling at the Shibs.

I dismiss these opinions entirely. If it's Roman's spot, or Maddie's spot, or Green and Parson's spot, then they'll all go out and prove they deserve it.
I also think that there would be less side-eying online had he done this in time to sign up for the GP series. The oh so careful, hardly coincidental timing is pretty disasteful, it looks like he just intends to swan in for Canadian Nats as a federation fave, maybe Worlds (but someone upthread said not? if that is right, it would be even more unedifying given he's done nothing to help earn that Olympic spot for Canada and wouldn't be doing anything to help get next years Worlds ones) but definitely it's all about grabbing an Olympic team medal for himself. A lot of people never had had one of those.

But - as I have said before - when even Olympic bling, even the less prestigious team type, is on the line people do get all grabby hands.
 
I also think that there would be less side-eying online had he done this in time to sign up for the GP series. The oh so careful, hardly coincidental timing is pretty disasteful, it looks like he just intends to swan in for Canadian Nats as a federation fave, maybe Worlds (but someone upthread said not? if that is right, it would be even more unedifying given he's done nothing to help earn that Olympic spot for Canada and wouldn't be doing anything to help get next years Worlds ones) but definitely it's all about grabbing an Olympic team medal for himself. A lot of people never had had one of those.

But - as I have said before - when even Olympic bling, even the less prestigious team type, is on the line people do get all grabby hands.
I agree. It's sneaky.

There was a skater last season as well who was out of form early in the season so took a break for equipment issues during the national championship, then was able to go straight into World's without even having to perform or win his spot at Nationals. Kind of a get out of Nationals free card, and it worked.
 
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