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[Wren]

I am a strange mixture of absolute bliss that Stephane won and had a decent skate which he really needed especially after Nationals, but at the same time I want him to win with a solid program. And from the comments said, I want him to be able to win without it questionable that he should have...Still nervous that he's not fully back in his true form.
Takahashi seems to be on fire this season. I wish I could get into his skating because whenever I see him I think I should like him... He's going to be tough to beat pretty soon though I think.
I hope Johnny doesn't get discouraged again, he was on such a roll! And it doesn't sound like he fell apart or anything particularly with his foot. Rest up and be back strong for nationals!!

Aw... I love Stephane though ; )

 

[Dodhiyel]

Stunned, but I think I got the math right: Stephane won by .16 of a point.....

 

[Ximena]

DAUm is showing a special on Johnny I think, meeting with his fans where I asume is...China

 

[Jasper]

Wren, I was not really big on Takahashi until this season. I saw him live at SA and he is sooooo expressive. Every movement of his body has purpose and connects to the music. I also like that his SP has really reinvented him. But wow, kudos to Stephane!

I guess Daisuke lost it because of his first jumping pass, only doing a 3T. I think usually he does the 4T there, so he must have messed up the first time around, opted for a triple, changed his jumping order (?) to fit the quad in, but he only had two combinations instead of Lambiel's three.

 

[*Sniper*]

:scratch: You'll have to ask the judges that question. His short program here scored higher than his SP at 2006 Worlds so that could be some of the difference.

Ah, every competition is different, so maybe we shouldn't put too much emphasis on the PBs or "World Records" and such.

 

[Dodhiyel]

Thanks for the explanation, Jasper.

 

[Medusa]

7 3F+3T+2T
8 2Lz+3T
9 3S+2T

from Lambiel's protocol - I think this is what saved him, all three combos after the half-way mark, even the double Lutz is not that costly. Takahashi did just two combos, no triple-triple. And Lambiel just gets more PCS for the LP than Takahashi. Plus Takahashi wasn't perfect either (with the doubling of the Salchow).

As for Johnny, he knows that he needs to be really clean with his lower technical content. Falling on the triple flip and doubling the Loop is just not good enough. But I hope he is not devastated, he did not screw it up, he did not fall apart.

 

[Ximena]

Yes but Lambiel was by no means perfect either in his first two jumps. It seems it was about also levels on the other components, Stephane got on level 4 more than Daisuke

 

[Turtleberry]

Ah, every competition is different, so maybe we shouldn't put too much emphasis on the PBs or "World Records" and such.

Agreed. Of course, I would have to go back at look at some of the videos but the judges at 2006 Worlds did not seem to be as generous as they are here. I think the scores can at least give you a ballpark figure of how they did though which emphasizes my main point that Lambiel seemed to have turned his season around pretty quickly. At least, somewhat. If he could work out the kinks in his long program, than he'll be in good shape going into Worlds.

 

[*Sniper*]

7 3F+3T+2T
8 2Lz+3T
9 3S+2T

from Lambiel's protocol - I think this is what saved him, all three combos after the half-way mark, even the double Lutz is not that costly. Takahashi did just two combos, no triple-triple. And Lambiel just gets more PCS for the LP than Takahashi. Plus Takahashi wasn't perfect either (with the doubling of the Salchow).

So there is no judging controversy?
For goodness' sakes, we've got to have at least one discipline where the fans don't end up slitting each other's throat.

 

[taylorfax]

II hope Johnny doesn't get discouraged again, he was on such a roll! And it doesn't sound like he fell apart or anything particularly with his foot. Rest up and be back strong for nationals!!

I don't think so, I hope not. He didn't look too down in the K&C. Last season he probably would've given up on the rest of the skate, but that wasn't the case here. I'm proud of him.
He landed the first axel really hard, but the combo was a beauty. He looked a little wobbly in the very beginning. Otherwise, even with the mistakes, it wasn't bad because he didn't lose momentum. And, ah, his spins were gorgeous gorgeous.

 

[*Sniper*]

Agreed. Of course, I would have to go back at look at some of the videos but the judges at 2006 Worlds did not seem to be as generous as they are here. I think the scores can at least give you a ballpark figure of how they did though which emphasizes my main point that Lambiel seemed to have turned his season around pretty quickly. At least, somewhat. If he could work out the kinks in his long program, than he'll be in good shape going into Worlds.

Agreed.

I think we all want to see a clean long from Lambiel right?
Even himself, maybe.
Come Worlds, he'd better have fixed whatever problems he has, because if he doesn't....

I will.....

MARRY HIM RIGHT THEN AND THERE!!

 

[Wren]

Jasper- Thanks for the explanation, and maybe I'll have to try giving Takahashi another try, he seems to be getting pretty consistent which is a huge bonus for him. His SP is probably the best this season, very unique.
I think it's pretty hard to beat Stephane on the PCS mark even when he's less than perfect. He has an amazing sense of his music and expression which is what I love so much about his skating. I really want him to skate this LP clean once so he can truly do it justice. I'm so glad he had this competition though, he needed a confidence boost I think and as long as he keeps training hard and improving I think he'll pull everything together.

 

[Jasper]

So there is no judging controversy?
For goodness' sakes, we've got to have at least one discipline where the fans don't end up slitting each other's throat.

Well it just seems like a shame because Daisuke was all together cleaner in the two skates, and had a clean quad in the LP unlike Lambiel, and a two clean triple axels in the LP.

But, such is life under CoP. Crap shoot! I bet even Stephane was pretty surprised.

Hey, I'm having trouble remembering Buttle and Lambiel's GP results this season. Can someone help me...?

 

[Medusa]

Wait - is this meant to be a double Lutz by Lambiel? Because if he made it a triple, he would have 9 Quads/Triples in his program...

 

[Wren]

Agreed.

I think we all want to see a clean long from Lambiel right?
Even himself, maybe.
Come Worlds, he'd better have fixed whatever problems he has, because if he doesn't....

I will.....

MARRY HIM RIGHT THEN AND THERE!!

Haha, I don't think I can say anything better than that!

 

[demarinis5]

Congrats to Lambiel, I am very happy for him and also to Daisuke and Evan.

 

[jennylovskt]

Wow, thank you so much for everyone who described the performances and post the scores. I quickly went through the pages and will read them later.

Congratulations to Stephane, I am so happy for him.

The placement is satisfied and as expected after seeing the SP. (I say it without watching the perforamces.)

 

[Tinymavy15]

WOW that was close. A great competition. Glad Evan did the quad /3 in both skates.... i guess the one in the free was clean... nobody said otherwise. He went home and worked and it paid off. wierd falling on the salchow though... never saw that before. I am stunned that lambiel won, not takahshi... i guess just becaue lambiel was ahead afer the SP. But boy was that close.

 

[museksk8r]

Congratulations to all the medalists! Sounds like it was a very close competition and no one had an outstanding LP. It looks like Stephane won based on the overall impression and strength of his LP . . . that Flamenco program to Poeta is definitely something special, a work of art in the sense of passion and choreography combined with Lambiel's dance and spinning ability. Stephane had 3 combinations while Daisuke had 2. They both had popped jumps in the LP and I wonder if Takahashi may have had a downgrade somewhere on his jumps. I can't get the protocols page to cooperate with me to look and see. I expect Worlds to once again come down to Stephane Lambiel, Brian Joubert, and Daisuke Takahashi.