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Well, first, yay for Evan! Second, I'm really happy as I love Stephen's LP, though it does sound like it was close. Daisuke has nothing to be ashamed of.

Nor does Johnny, from the sound of it. If he's having issues with his landing foot, well....sometimes now matter how you try, your body still says, "Dude...are you serious?" Hopefully he'll take a bit of a rest and let it heal. He's got a while 'til Nationals, right?
 
Wow! So happy for Lambiel. After winning nothing in GPs, he comes to win GPF!! I think the outcome is fair. Daisuke won sp based on the merit of pcs, and Lambiel won lp based on pcs as well. Lambiel's flamenco program is just state-of-are even with a few errors.
Sorry for Johnny. I hope he will be injury-free by National. Also happy for Evan, although I think he could've placed higher!
 
I am happy for Stephane although a cleaner performance would have been nice, but still it was his best this season so far which is great. Who would have thought after he was a mental wreck after Swiss Nationals he would win the GP final for the 2nd time. He is truly a special individual and a real fighter. People talk about Evan and Plushenko and others like them being fighters, but not enough people talk about Stephane as a fighter. He may not be the most consistent skater but he he has always had a competitive heart, and been able to fight through adversity.
 
Joe, Lambiel won two silvers (Cup of China, Russia) and the gold at the GPF in the 2005-2006 GPF season. It set him up well for the Olympic silver.

How bad WAS Stephane's Swiss Nationals? Did he even win Gold?
 
Joe, Lambiel won two silvers (Cup of China, Russia) and the gold at the GPF in the 2005-2006 GPF season. It set him up well for the Olympic silver.

How bad WAS Stephane's Swiss Nationals? Did he even win Gold?

Yeah he won gold but he had 3 hard falls in the LP, 1 hard fall in the SP, and landed about 1 triple clean in the LP. He won easily since he had no competition, but a skater I never heard of beat him in the TES barely in the FS, his PCS was over 20 points higher though.
 
Joe, Lambiel won two silvers (Cup of China, Russia) and the gold at the GPF in the 2005-2006 GPF season. It set him up well for the Olympic silver.

How bad WAS Stephane's Swiss Nationals? Did he even win Gold?
Did any of these boys reach 200 in total scores? Do we have to wait for Joubert's triumphant return to Real Male Figure Skating?

Joe
 
What's it going to take for me to see Lambiel's LP clean? I think his LP is much better than Takahashi's LP so things "seem" ok. I'll have to see it on tv to decide if the judging was fair. IMO the PCS on just about all of them are off though.

Lambiel won't be able to beat Joubert at worlds with a skate like that. It doesn't matter that he's a far superior skater and has those things what are they called?...oh yeah artistry and choreography. Joubert will come out and jump all over the place and win anyway. Lambiel needs to not get complacent.

I'm glad Chan pulled ahead of KVDP (there is a God) irritated at Johnny's scores though.

Overall it was a great GP series me thinks.
 
It is dissapointing to see Stephane's jump layout. He looks like he is planning neither a 2nd quad or 2nd triple axel now. A jump layout that includes both a double axel and double lutz combination is not going to stand up. He needs to replace the double lutz-combination with a quad combination like he has done in the past, as well as skate clean of course.
 
Hey guys, Sorry I wasn't here, had to work for a few hours. I am suprised that Lambiel won with a lackluster performance. I don't agree with Takahashi's PCS being lower than Lambiel but maybe the 2nd half of the program really saved Stephane.

We have seen crazier judging, need I remind everyone of the Ladies SP yesterday :laugh:
 
I am sure Lambiel intended triple lutz-triple toe but just popped the first part into a double. I very much doubt a double lutz is included in his plans for the future.
 
Hey guys, Sorry I wasn't here, had to work for a few hours. I am suprised that Lambiel won with a lackluster performance. I don't agree with Takahashi's PCS being lower than Lambiel but maybe the 2nd half of the program really saved Stephane.

We have seen crazier judging, need I remind everyone of the Ladies SP yesterday :laugh:

Takahashi's PCS should definitely be lower then Stephane's in the LP. None of the men have a better LP then Stephane right now. Takahashi's win in the SP was a huge gift anyway, how on earth does Daisuke skating cleanly with only a triple flip-triple toe finish over Stephane skating cleanly with a quad toe-triple toe. Otherwise it wouldnt have even been close. Thank goodness Daisuke did not get away with an undeserved win.

I am sure Lambiel intended triple lutz-triple toe but just popped the first part into a double. I very much doubt a double lutz is included in his plans for the future.

Well then he will have to change his jump layout since you cant do two triple lutzes, two triple flips, and two triple toes.
 
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:clap:Congrats to every medalist!
I was a bit surprise to see Johnny meltdown.
And I did not expect lambiel to pull it out until the end.
 
Maybe Johnny should have pulled out if he is injured.

I think Johnny wanted to finally finish a GP series, I mean he withdre on the 04-05 season right? and then on the 05-06 and then on the FS on the 06-07? I think he should be happy that he managed to finish the competiiton. And he did well.
 
I am so happy for Lambiel. Congratulations are in order for all of the medalists, but especially Lambiel. It has been a rocky road for him lately.
 
I think Johnny wanted to finally finish a GP series, I mean he withdre on the 04-05 season right? and then on the 05-06 and then on the FS on the 06-07? I think he should be happy that he managed to finish the competiiton. And he did well.

Yes. And it sounds like his footwork and spins are improving as the season goes on. I thought his spins in the SP were beautiful.

I'm not going to get into the Lambiel/Takahashi controversy, lol, so CONGRATS to the winners!
 
I was a bit surprise to see Johnny meltdown.

I think "meltdown" is pretty harsh. He fell on one jump and doubled another, but his other elements were solid, including some really nice spins and steps and a gorgeous 3A-3T combo. Placing 4th at the GPF is nothing to be ashamed of, and I'm very proud of him for fighting to the very end of both programs, even after the mistakes.

As to whether or not he should've pulled out, I don't see any need to speculate on that. He wouldn't have skated if he thought he couldn't get through his programs. And really, if he'd withdrawn, a heck of a lot of people would be screaming that he was faking the injury. Damed if he does. Damned if he doesn't.
 
I thought Lamabiel's PCS was where they should be relative to Takahashi's. IMO it really was one of the best PERFORMANCES he has given. The musicality and excitement was just amazing. Takahashi's program has weaker choreography and the performance level wasn't quite there.
 
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