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3 Silvio SMALUN GER 97.78 41.78 56.00 5.65 5.30 5.45 5.70 5.90 0.00 #5
Results after first flight:
1 Ben FERREIRA CAN 116.34
2 Ivan DINEV BUL 100.33
3 Silvio SMALUN GER 97.78
4 Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN 96.16
5 Sergei DAVYDOV BLR 86.38
May have missed/mixed something. Russian commentator is not helping at all and slo mo is not so good either.
Nakaniwa, 4t fall, 3a bad step-out, 2l, 3f, 3a just hold on into 3t dbl ft, 3f (?), 3s
Ferreira, 3a-2t, 3f hand down, 3f(?)-3t, 3lz, 3a, 2lz, 3s, 3lz-2t
Dinev, 3f, 3a, down on lz, 3a step-out 2t, 2l, 3t, 3s
Davydov 3a db ft, 3t, 3lz fell, 2lz, popped s, 3s, 3l fell, 2a db ft
Smalun 3a fell, 2f, 3a fell, 3f-2t, 2l, 3lz, 3s fell, 2f
Thanks npm!
Go Sasha & Stephane!!!
Results after first flight:
1 Ben FERREIRA CAN 116.34
2 Ivan DINEV BUL 100.33
3 Silvio SMALUN GER 97.78
4 Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN 96.16
5 Sergei DAVYDOV BLR 86.38
May have missed/mixed something. Russian commentator is not helping at all and slo mo is not so good either.
Nakaniwa, 4t fall, 3a bad step-out, 2l, 3f, 3a just hold on into 3t dbl ft, 3f (?), 3s
Ferreira, 3a-2t, 3f hand down, 3f(?)-3t, 3lz, 3a, 2lz, 3s, 3lz-2t
Dinev, 3f, 3a, down on lz, 3a step-out 2t, 2l, 3t, 3s
Davydov 3a db ft, 3t, 3lz fell, 2lz, popped s, 3s, 3l fell, 2a db ft
Smalun 3a fell, 2f, 3a fell, 3f-2t, 2l, 3lz, 3s fell, 2f
Thanks npm!
Go Sasha & Stephane!!!
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1 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 136.01 64.01 72.00 7.15 7.10 7.20 7.15 7.40 0.00 #8
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YESSSSS!!!
Love his skating and his spinning is only second to Ms.Ruh!
Lambiel, 4t fell, 2a, 3f hands down, 3lz-3t, 3 triples l, s, f ? (got a phone call, have to check my tape)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YESSSSS!!!
Love his skating and his spinning is only second to Ms.Ruh!
Lambiel, 4t fell, 2a, 3f hands down, 3lz-3t, 3 triples l, s, f ? (got a phone call, have to check my tape)
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2 Chengjiang LI CHN 145.17 74.67 70.50 7.30 6.70 7.05 7.10 7.10 0.00 #11
Li, 4t-3(?)t, 4s, 3a-3t, 3lz fell, 3a stepped out, 3l, 3s, 2a
LP Results
1 Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS 150.90
2 Chengjiang LI CHN 145.17
3 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 136.01
4 Frederic DAMBIER FRA 134.32
5 Michael WEISS USA 127.48
6 Alexander ABT RUS 116.41
7 Ben FERREIRA CAN 116.34
8 Ivan DINEV BUL 100.33
9 Silvio SMALUN GER 97.78
10 Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN 96.16
11 Sergei DAVYDOV BLR 86.38
Overall Results
Plushenko 231.25
Li 210.94
Dambier 201.55
Weiss 199.03
Lambiel 198.01
Abt 189.46
Ferreira 175.44
Smalun 154.68
Dinev 152.77
Nakaniwa 146.59
Davydov 140.58
Li, 4t-3(?)t, 4s, 3a-3t, 3lz fell, 3a stepped out, 3l, 3s, 2a
LP Results
1 Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS 150.90
2 Chengjiang LI CHN 145.17
3 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 136.01
4 Frederic DAMBIER FRA 134.32
5 Michael WEISS USA 127.48
6 Alexander ABT RUS 116.41
7 Ben FERREIRA CAN 116.34
8 Ivan DINEV BUL 100.33
9 Silvio SMALUN GER 97.78
10 Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN 96.16
11 Sergei DAVYDOV BLR 86.38
Overall Results
Plushenko 231.25
Li 210.94
Dambier 201.55
Weiss 199.03
Lambiel 198.01
Abt 189.46
Ferreira 175.44
Smalun 154.68
Dinev 152.77
Nakaniwa 146.59
Davydov 140.58
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hmmmmmmmm Mike must have had more problems than usual... still he's up there... so *sigh* YEAY MIKE! (he could have bombed 
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Happy to see Stephane got hold of himself. Next time I hope he can skate his best at both the short and long.
Li too, looking like a bad season ahead and now back on track.
Nothing in the way of special for Michael.
And what happened to Abt? He just nosed out Ben.
Joe
Li too, looking like a bad season ahead and now back on track.
Nothing in the way of special for Michael.
And what happened to Abt? He just nosed out Ben.
Joe
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A truly bad technical score; #48 on the list of 56 skated so far. His Program Elements score was 13th highest for the year, and that's the only thing that saved him from infamy.Joesitz said:
Either he had a technical meltdown, and/or he didn't skate/get credit for all of his elements (i.e., a 4T counted as a 3T, and a 3rd 3T getting 0 credit). His lowest PE score was for transitions.
Abt at C of R
Major league bummer for Sasha. His presentation scores were quite high for his beautiful new program. But he's back to two-footing his landings, the same problems he's had since injuring his ankle last season. Triple axel was still strong in both programs although he two-footed the second one of the LP (he had two in the LP).
Haven't seen the competitive version of the LP yet, but I'm guessing he's still using most of the rink to set up his big jumps with little or no transition steps before them.
It would require more major league meltdowns from the others, and a first or second at NHK for him to get into the final.
Ah, as they say....Hope dies last.
Major league bummer for Sasha. His presentation scores were quite high for his beautiful new program. But he's back to two-footing his landings, the same problems he's had since injuring his ankle last season. Triple axel was still strong in both programs although he two-footed the second one of the LP (he had two in the LP).
Haven't seen the competitive version of the LP yet, but I'm guessing he's still using most of the rink to set up his big jumps with little or no transition steps before them.
It would require more major league meltdowns from the others, and a first or second at NHK for him to get into the final.
Ah, as they say....Hope dies last.
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Bynx, a poster over at another board got a warning from FSU for copying and pasting results straight off their board. Please be careful.
If you're the person posting the results over there, my apologies. I just don't want to see anyone get in trouble
If you're the person posting the results over there, my apologies. I just don't want to see anyone get in trouble
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Tim May Still make the GPF
Tim may back into the Grand Prix final yet, just as Michelle did last year. Here's how. Tim has 12 gp points. First tie breaker is highest placing (1 for Tim) :
These 3 competitors are already ahead of Tim and have finished
all scoring events.
Plush 24
Weiss 17
VanDerPerren 13
Competitors at NHK for whom it is a counting event
GP PTS NHK pts NHK
Now To beat Tim Placing
Buttle 9 5 4
Honda 7 7 3
Joubert 5 9 2
Gao 5 9 2
Abt 3 12 1
Ferreira 3 12 1
Savoie 0 12 1
Chipre 0 12 1
Li Y 0 12 1
Tamura 0 12 1
Nakaniwa 0 12 1
For those who have 0 points, to knock out Tim, they must score a better total score than Tim did at COC in addition to winning the event. (2nd tie breaker).
There are 3 open spots in the GPF. Van der Perren is not a lock; he can be outscored just as Tim can, but he fills the 6th spot ahead of Tim, so I have listed it this way. Savoie, of course, is an unknown factor, but he seems unlikely to win. And with the level of talent here, I do not expect Abt to win, given how he skated at COR. But it is possible, given that he earned good Program element scores. The rest of those needing a win to bump Tim will in all likelihood not place first.
I do not see how Honda at home in Japan will score low enough to miss the final. Either 1, 2, or 3 will do to put Takeshi in the final, and I am sure he will do it. That leaves 2 GPF spots open.
Based on Tim's COC performance, I don't think he will finish lower than fourth. That leaves 2 undetermined spots in the top 4 at NHK, both of whom have to come from the set (Abt, Savoie, Gao, Joubert, Buttle) to bump Tim. Looking at that set, it looks to me like it really boils down to Gao or Joubert finishing 2nd or better and Buttle finishing 4 or better to knock Tim out. Gao really tanked in the LP at COC which was his home event. I don't expect to see him in 2nd or 1st. So it probably boils down to whether Joubert can hold it together to finish 2nd or better. If Tim and Takeshi finish 1-2 or 2-1, Tim goes to the GPF, and so does Van Der Perren. And there are a number of other scenarios that work too.
dpp
Tim may back into the Grand Prix final yet, just as Michelle did last year. Here's how. Tim has 12 gp points. First tie breaker is highest placing (1 for Tim) :
These 3 competitors are already ahead of Tim and have finished
all scoring events.
Plush 24
Weiss 17
VanDerPerren 13
Competitors at NHK for whom it is a counting event
GP PTS NHK pts NHK
Now To beat Tim Placing
Buttle 9 5 4
Honda 7 7 3
Joubert 5 9 2
Gao 5 9 2
Abt 3 12 1
Ferreira 3 12 1
Savoie 0 12 1
Chipre 0 12 1
Li Y 0 12 1
Tamura 0 12 1
Nakaniwa 0 12 1
For those who have 0 points, to knock out Tim, they must score a better total score than Tim did at COC in addition to winning the event. (2nd tie breaker).
There are 3 open spots in the GPF. Van der Perren is not a lock; he can be outscored just as Tim can, but he fills the 6th spot ahead of Tim, so I have listed it this way. Savoie, of course, is an unknown factor, but he seems unlikely to win. And with the level of talent here, I do not expect Abt to win, given how he skated at COR. But it is possible, given that he earned good Program element scores. The rest of those needing a win to bump Tim will in all likelihood not place first.
I do not see how Honda at home in Japan will score low enough to miss the final. Either 1, 2, or 3 will do to put Takeshi in the final, and I am sure he will do it. That leaves 2 GPF spots open.
Based on Tim's COC performance, I don't think he will finish lower than fourth. That leaves 2 undetermined spots in the top 4 at NHK, both of whom have to come from the set (Abt, Savoie, Gao, Joubert, Buttle) to bump Tim. Looking at that set, it looks to me like it really boils down to Gao or Joubert finishing 2nd or better and Buttle finishing 4 or better to knock Tim out. Gao really tanked in the LP at COC which was his home event. I don't expect to see him in 2nd or 1st. So it probably boils down to whether Joubert can hold it together to finish 2nd or better. If Tim and Takeshi finish 1-2 or 2-1, Tim goes to the GPF, and so does Van Der Perren. And there are a number of other scenarios that work too.
dpp
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Doris - That was a fabulous analysis, and best of all, I could follow it.
It would be nice to have Tim in the mix to give the competition of quad fest.
I'm not clear about Li. Is he definitely out?
Joe
It would be nice to have Tim in the mix to give the competition of quad fest.
I'm not clear about Li. Is he definitely out?
Joe
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Unfortunately, Chenjiang Li is out of the GPF. He has less than 12 points total. The Li that is listed at NHK is Yungfei Li. And too bad, sez I. But a GPF with van der Perren and Buttle has its attractions too!
Doris
Doris
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nymkfan, Yes, I agree. It would be nice for both Tim and Mike to make it to Colorado Springs for GPF. I hope they do, and both skate well, although Mike's history may not be for clean programs.
Too much 2 foot on 4 jumps in Mike's history.
dpp
Too much 2 foot on 4 jumps in Mike's history.
dpp
