Absolutely, museksk8r! Once again, rep, not actual performance is involved, and the event is taking place in Canada, where Adam no longer trains.
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Absolutely, museksk8r! Once again, rep, not actual performance is involved, and the event is taking place in Canada, where Adam no longer trains.
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This was a great Short Program competition. Every skater was worth watching. I didn't expect Fernandez to pull all of the jumps together so well!
Patrick Chan was overscored, but that's to be expected. Despite his overscoring he did still deserve 3rd place and I pretty much agree with all the placements; I probably just would have put Rogozine a little higher.
I'm sad for Ross Miner. I was hoping he would continue with the excellent skating he showed at Worlds and declare himself as the most consistent American guy in the field this season.
Patrick Chan was overscored, but that's to be expected. Despite his overscoring he did still deserve 3rd place and I pretty much agree with all the placements; I probably just would have put Rogozine a little higher.
I'm sad for Ross Miner. I was hoping he would continue with the excellent skating he showed at Worlds and declare himself as the most consistent American guy in the field this season.
Beggin' your pardon, evangeline, who are the top men? Ya talking here at SC or just in general? BTW, AdaRipp is a two-time World Junior champion, First Continents gold medalist, placed 6th at senior Worlds his first time there, and is definitely one of the top U.S. men, even if you don't think that accounts for much. Power/speed, not sure what you're looking at exactly. Were you in the arena? Viewing on tv or online can sometimes be deceptive regarding speed. In any case, speed and power does not mean superiority -- lots of other qualities are involved, Adam is not a slacker in these areas. Fine, I give you the minor errors you mentioned in this sp, but overall, he definitely should have been scored higher, and Chan was overscored, IMHO. You surely can't say that Adam is not one of the top athletes in the sport of figure skating. He's right up there with the rest of the contending men. Adam does need to breakthrough in terms of rep and influence with the judges. Not going to Worlds did hurt him earlier this year, but he's in a good training environment right now, and I like what I see from him with this sp.
ETA: Agree, I had hoped to see more from Ross here (He kept the same sp from last year, so it's too bad he couldn't hit it out of the ballpark, and let judges do what they do anyway -- at least lay down your best). Both Ross and Ricky were given short shrift at Worlds because they were new to the senior scene -- they definitely should have placed higher. Both were clean under pressure. Maybe they are both going into this season feeling more pressure, but they should hold their heads high. It is not their fault the U.S. sends only 2 men to Worlds and we have many more men worthy of going to Worlds.
ETA: Agree, I had hoped to see more from Ross here (He kept the same sp from last year, so it's too bad he couldn't hit it out of the ballpark, and let judges do what they do anyway -- at least lay down your best). Both Ross and Ricky were given short shrift at Worlds because they were new to the senior scene -- they definitely should have placed higher. Both were clean under pressure. Maybe they are both going into this season feeling more pressure, but they should hold their heads high. It is not their fault the U.S. sends only 2 men to Worlds and we have many more men worthy of going to Worlds.
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LOL. But it still didn't stop some having a mini bashing-festI agree.
I think from now on, every score Chan gets will be overscored. I predict it will happen tomorrow and forever...
More happy for Javi, Dai, (and Adam with his new program), than I am disappointed for "yawn" Mr. PCS, loved-by-judges Chan not falling all over himself. Definitely would have been interesting to see if he had fallen 3 times, how much the judges dared hold him up in the marks, lol.
ETA: Ha, ha, Chan fans, you guys will never be satisfied either for Mr. PCS over-scored for life. Apparently, you're too busy worrying about so-called Chan-bashers and too busy defending Chan's "oh so worthy" PCS helping to hold him up, when yes, errors he makes because he ain't the second coming. All cred to Chan for mastering the quad, but give us a break judges with the over-scoring already. Chan definitely deserved to win Worlds, but not by the margin he did. And okay third place in sp here, but not that close to the top two. That's ridiculous, but yes, predictable.
ETA: Ha, ha, Chan fans, you guys will never be satisfied either for Mr. PCS over-scored for life. Apparently, you're too busy worrying about so-called Chan-bashers and too busy defending Chan's "oh so worthy" PCS helping to hold him up, when yes, errors he makes because he ain't the second coming. All cred to Chan for mastering the quad, but give us a break judges with the over-scoring already. Chan definitely deserved to win Worlds, but not by the margin he did. And okay third place in sp here, but not that close to the top two. That's ridiculous, but yes, predictable.
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OK, I am very disappointed that Chan didn't fall thee times and I hope he will fall six times, twice in his footwork, falling head-first. Is that what you wanted, jettasian? Are you satisfied now? I think what you are doing is a disservice to Chan, not only instigating more naysayers but also aliening his potential fans.
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Thank you . . . that pretty much sums things up. :yes:
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Well, there is one person who complained when he had a skate wherein he didn't fall six times, asking why didn't he. But fair enough. I definitely understand why you feel that way.
Wow, I can not stop watching Javiar's Program!!
Really, the biggest improvement and transformation I have seen. It's almost like watching Nikodinov in her 2001 Season.
Not only were the jumps 1st rate, the transitions, speed, footwork, and artistry was all there.
Though Dai is great artistically, his program was a bit of a yawn. Javiar was fresh and full of energy, and BRAVO to David Wilson. Great choice of music and choreography. That footwork section is one of the BEST I have seen in a while! Bravo again.
Really, the biggest improvement and transformation I have seen. It's almost like watching Nikodinov in her 2001 Season.
Not only were the jumps 1st rate, the transitions, speed, footwork, and artistry was all there.
Though Dai is great artistically, his program was a bit of a yawn. Javiar was fresh and full of energy, and BRAVO to David Wilson. Great choice of music and choreography. That footwork section is one of the BEST I have seen in a while! Bravo again.
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I watched Fernandez' on Youtube and really liked it except for the spins. Great smooth jumps and showmanship. Good job putting himself on the map. Looking forward to see his LP tomorrow.
Stay happy, Javi! Make your Canadian Dad proud.
Stay happy, Javi! Make your Canadian Dad proud.
What? Javi is half Canadian?? How come the network is not claiming that? lol
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I have no idea what you are talking about. And it is not meant to be sarcastic. I really don't know what you are talking about.
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Skate Canada tweeted that Rippon got so many flowers he ended up giving some to the volunteers, which was pretty cool of him.
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So happy for Javier ! So good to see him have choreography worthy of his talent !
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I had a thread with Javi's interview in which he said Orser was like his Dad in Canada and that he's a happy person. You should check it out. Very nice things said about Chan too.
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Maybe we should nickname him CAVIAR.
(FYI, his name is spelled and pronounced Javier with an e. But I kinda like Caviar Fernandez. Sounds like a prize fighter.)
What I did was what all those bashers already have set in mind even before Chan stepped on the ice. And I don't even know where you get the impression I wanted Chan to fall? I don't think I have that much power to instigate anything. It's bounded to happen regardless. But thank you.
LOL, Thanks. I was like....NO WAY! If Javi's half Canadian, I'm sure the network will like to own him as Canadian..that's what they always do.
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You have been far too aggressive in your posts today, jettasian. Not a big deal. Chill...
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