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Nathan Chen

Really, I 100% think it's the introduction of the 4Lo. Nobody else would think to do something so crazy as to attempt the two most ambitious programs ever in his season debut after a 6 month layoff. I hope this result has knocked some sense into that thick skull and he goes back to the layouts that have worked for the last 2 seasons.

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100 days out from Team Toyota and Team USA
 
I personally think Nathan just had an off day. He is human. I'm not the least bit worried about him and expect he's going to blow the roof off this weekend. It's pretty amazing that he's NOT had an off day in all this time. Going to school, being coached long distance, etc. is a lot for one person to handle.
 
Hollymolly said:
I also agree with you. That incident really affect his mentality. That’s what I afraid...(but I think if you are human, everyone can be influenced those thing..) However, what I relieved after seeing him in person at SA, he looks like more relieved and calm at the exhibition. Let’s see what happens in SC, but based on what I see and what I talk with Nathan he looks calmer and settled down after the SA.
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Hope we can still see the same amazing fan videos and photos from Skate Canada🍁 . Would you share a little what he said?
 
noskates said:
I personally think Nathan just had an off day. He is human. I'm not the least bit worried about him and expect he's going to blow the roof off this weekend. It's pretty amazing that he's NOT had an off day in all this time. Going to school, being coached long distance, etc. is a lot for one person to handle.
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I agree and am looking foward to see what he does in Canada (in my hometown no less!)
 
decafjava said:
I agree and am looking foward to see what he does in Canada (in my hometown no less!)
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So lucky!!!

Regarding the 4Lo messing up some of the other jumps, I do wonder about it. During the final run-through practice for the free, he had a little bit of a rough landing on the 4Lo but totally nailed the 4Lz and 4S. Then during the competition, he was great on the 4Lo but missed both the 4Lz and 4S. That's rough. It can't be easy at all trying to maintain all 5 types of quads at the same time, yikes. With that said, I'm cheering for whatever Nathan wants most. Like, I'm sure that if this was simply about winning, he would go back to what has worked for him in the past. I just think that, for him, this season may be more about putting everything he has out on the ice so he doesn't regret never having gone for his highest ceiling. Not saying he doesn't want to win gold, only that this is really important to him too, and if he can win gold with a six quad program then great, and if not, then he can live with just what he has already achieved so far in his career. I recall him saying that even if he doesn't win gold in Beijing, he's already proud of what he has done so far. We'll have to see what he decides to do at Skate Canada. Anyone want to make bets? Lol.
 
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Yes, I agree that 6 quads has been a long term goal of his and he wants to put that out at the Olympics. But from what I've heard he's struggled with the 4Lo all summer, and even at SA practices it wasn't looking so great. Rather than having a bad day I'd argue that landing the 4Lo as well as he did made it a pretty decent day. That said, he really needs to take it down a notch or two and make sure he wins SC to ensure his spot in the GPF. I do trust that he's smart enough to know this, but we'll see.

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Nathan looks back at the 2018 Games
 
sheetz said:
But from what I've heard he's struggled with the 4Lo all summer
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Oh, really? With that video of him doing a beautiful 4Lo being passed around and people saying that he was pretty much landing everything at Champs Camp, I did not know that. Anyway, I'm going to guess that he may do 5 quads. That was the original plan for Skate America, right? Even though he wasn't really prepared, he pushed it up to 6 because he'd fallen so far behind after the SP. With prob a quadless Jason being his biggest threat, he can afford to tone it down a little for the time being. I'm not sure that he would cut it down to 4 quads because if 6 is his end goal, he'll probably want to get used to pushing as many as possible in competition.
 
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SaDa said:
Oh, really? With that video of him doing a beautiful 4Lo being passed around and people saying that he was pretty much landing everything at Champs Camp, I did not know that.
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From the leaked videos I saw of Champs Camp his 4Lo success rate was shockingly low. Everything else was ok.
 
Oh, I see. Got it.
If it was going to be one or the other at Skate America, I think I would have rather seen him nail the 4Lz and 4S.
 
Mamamiia said:
Hope we can still see the same amazing fan videos and photos from Skate Canada🍁 . Would you share a little what he said?
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I didn't ask much because I am afraid to interrupt his feeling (bc I met him after the medal ceremony. He looks quite disappointed about himself during the ceremony ...😂😂) but overall he said he is fine and he was just so disappointed about himself because he cannot bring out 100% what he can capable of now in front of audiences who came to see skating. I understood what he said because he looks so great during the practice session and compared with the experience I saw him in competition, he was really in good shape. One thing I worried about him was he looked very nervous right before the 5-mins warmup.
Because SC announced about the ticket-selling too late, I cannot change my schedule🥲 I wish I can go to Canada also.. hope we can get some videos and pics from fans!
 
Hollymolly said:
I didn't ask much because I am afraid to interrupt his feeling (bc I met him after the medal ceremony. He looks quite disappointed about himself during the ceremony ...😂😂) but overall he said he is fine and he was just so disappointed about himself because he cannot bring out 100% what he can capable of now in front of audiences who came to see skating. I understood what he said because he looks so great during the practice session and compared with the experience I saw him in competition, he was really in good shape. One thing I worried about him was he looked very nervous right before the 5-mins warmup.
Because SC announced about the ticket-selling too late, I cannot change my schedule🥲 I wish I can go to Canada also.. hope we can get some videos and pics from fans!
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Thank you so much for sharing! I think he really likes his new programs and was excited to show them to us. He must have worked really hard to prepare for this event. The nerves and the excitement got him this time.❤️

We are so lucky to have so many talented fans to share all those amazing materials!
 
I think Nathan should ditch the 4Lo for now. It’s good to see that he has more confidence in performing it, but I wonder if it is something he should only occasionally practice (and keep in his back pocket in case he needs it). His other quads are so good, and I don’t want to see the quality of them sacrificed for the loop. I just hope that whatever he decides that he is happy and enjoys himself going forward.
 
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SaDa said:
So lucky!!!

Regarding the 4Lo messing up some of the other jumps, I do wonder about it. During the final run-through practice for the free, he had a little bit of a rough landing on the 4Lo but totally nailed the 4Lz and 4S. Then during the competition, he was great on the 4Lo but missed both the 4Lz and 4S. That's rough. It can't be easy at all trying to maintain all 5 types of quads at the same time, yikes. With that said, I'm cheering for whatever Nathan wants most. Like, I'm sure that if this was simply about winning, he would go back to what has worked for him in the past. I just think that, for him, this season may be more about putting everything he has out on the ice so he doesn't regret never having gone for his highest ceiling. Not saying he doesn't want to win gold, only that this is really important to him too, and if he can win gold with a six quad program then great, and if not, then he can live with just what he has already achieved so far in his career. I recall him saying that even if he doesn't win gold in Beijing, he's already proud of what he has done so far. We'll have to see what he decides to do
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SaDa said:
So lucky!!!

Regarding the 4Lo messing up some of the other jumps, I do wonder about it. During the final run-through practice for the free, he had a little bit of a rough landing on the 4Lo but totally nailed the 4Lz and 4S. Then during the competition, he was great on the 4Lo but missed both the 4Lz and 4S. That's rough. It can't be easy at all trying to maintain all 5 types of quads at the same time, yikes. With that said, I'm cheering for whatever Nathan wants most. Like, I'm sure that if this was simply about winning, he would go back to what has worked for him in the past. I just think that, for him, this season may be more about putting everything he has out on the ice so he doesn't regret never having gone for his highest ceiling. Not saying he doesn't want to win gold, only that this is really important to him too, and if he can win gold with a six quad program then great, and if not, then he can live with just what he has already achieved so far in his career. I recall him saying that even if he doesn't win gold in Beijing, he's already proud of what he has done so far. We'll have to see what he decides to do at Skate Canada. Anyone want to make bets? Lol.
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Agreed. As a fan, I appreciate his decision to give us new and high quality programs every year, and admire his courage of taking on such a technically and artistically challenging LP of Mozart. I love both his programs and can’t wait to see them delivered to their full potential. I bet he will jump 6 quads this weekend for the long.
 
SaDa said:
So lucky!!!

Regarding the 4Lo messing up some of the other jumps, I do wonder about it. During the final run-through practice for the free, he had a little bit of a rough landing on the 4Lo but totally nailed the 4Lz and 4S. Then during the competition, he was great on the 4Lo but missed both the 4Lz and 4S. That's rough. It can't be easy at all trying to maintain all 5 types of quads at the same time, yikes. With that said, I'm cheering for whatever Nathan wants most. Like, I'm sure that if this was simply about winning, he would go back to what has worked for him in the past. I just think that, for him, this season may be more about putting everything he has out on the ice so he doesn't regret never having gone for his highest ceiling. Not saying he doesn't want to win gold, only that this is really important to him too, and if he can win gold with a six quad program then great, and if not, then he can live with just what he has already achieved so far in his career. I recall him saying that even if he doesn't win gold in Beijing, he's already proud of what he has done so far. We'll have to see what he decides to do at Skate Canada. Anyone want to make bets? Lol.
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Well.... I no longer live in Canada so will miss this event except online. :biggrin: Too bad but will see about goingto a GP in Europe.
 
LSfLJ said:
Look at the ridiculously low PCS he received this time around (0.16 for a perfect 4T3T combination and 1.3 for a flawless 4L) - they are punishing him as a straight skater who dared to point out the fact that a lot of people in the sport aren’t, despite his apology. How obnoxious! I sincerely hope I am wrong. We will see what happens at SC this weekend.
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:rolleyes: Can we just not with this? I doubt any of those judges even remember that interview from the summer, let alone are punishing him lol. Unless you think giving him the highest PCS of the FS was a punishment? What's with this "poor little straight boy" narrative?

Anyway...

I definitely think Nathan's main issues were a mix of pressure and not being mentally ready to compete with all that planned content. It was a mistake for him not to do a senior B before SA, he should have done something like US Classic (with 3 or 4 Quads) to get some of the nerves out of the way.

I don't expect a complete return to form at Skate Canada this weekend because he has so little time between events, but this event feels a bit less stacked in terms of Quad content which should hopefully take some of the edge off and he should come away with a win as long as the SP goes a bit better (I honestly blame the ice more than anything for that combo last week lol). He'll have plenty of time to prepare for the GPF in that case.
 
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