Now that it's official, can Michelle win the OGM?
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Mathman said:
Very unfair to the Japanese ladies that they don't get a judge on the panel. Looking at the judges, how much you want to bet that there is going to be some interesting movement in the dance competition if Russia wants to make a deal for the ladies. I see two judges that could be swayed to come on over to the dark side. All they need to do is throw high and low marks and hope they get included to keep skaters up and down. Also I don't think Sweden will autumatically go for an American skater.
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Mathman - Somehow I missed your post that Soogar reprinted above. I am just wondering if you are showing your amusing side or if a list of judges for the Olympics actually exists, cause I'd like to study it before the games and, of course after.
If the list is for amusement purposes, you left out Azerbaijan.
Joe
If the list is for amusement purposes, you left out Azerbaijan.
Joe
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Joesitz said:Mathman - Somehow I missed your post that Soogar reprinted above. I am just wondering if you are showing your amusing side or if a list of judges for the Olympics actually exists, cause I'd like to study it before the games and, of course after.
If the list is for amusement purposes, you left out Azerbaijan.
Joe
No no that's the real judging panel...there's been talk for a while on the net about how the Ladies competition isn't necessarily a foregone conclusion to Slutskaya given the judgin panel not being even half an half to the eastern block.
The only thing i would say about MM's layout, i'd have france and hngary on the "eastern" block side. We know the french are happy to strike deals with the russians and i think Hungary too.
I think we'll see the computer toss a hell of a lot of the Russian judge's marks be it high for the russians or low for the north americans and vice versa with the US's marks...
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Joe, here's the link to the panels of judges (AFAIK individuals have not been announced yet, just counrties). Scroll down to page 3, "Judges."
http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-171357-188575-98972-0-file,00.pdf
The pairs' panel is much more friendly to the Eastern European side of things than the ladies'.
MM
http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-171357-188575-98972-0-file,00.pdf
The pairs' panel is much more friendly to the Eastern European side of things than the ladies'.
MM
USA, Canada, Australia, Great Britain, Netherlands, Sweden,
France, Italy, Hungary (can go either way depending on whose rubbing their back the right way - you vote for Irina, we'll vote for Carolina Kostner... that sort of thing...)
Russia, Ukraine, Slovakia
Alternate: Japan
France, Italy, Hungary (can go either way depending on whose rubbing their back the right way - you vote for Irina, we'll vote for Carolina Kostner... that sort of thing...)
Russia, Ukraine, Slovakia
Alternate: Japan
FreeKatie said:
Canada might be swapping a vote in the ladies to get a man on the podium. i don't care how lily white Canada pretends to be, they make deals too. They just scream publicly when the deals don't go their way. And Canadians don't like Americans. The media support for the Canadian team that was robbed in SLC would ahve never happened if the Olympics were in Canada and it was an American team. The Canucks don't support US skaters just b/c they are from NA.
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The U.S judge is probably the only judge that will have Kwan higher than Slutskaya in scoring. Just a hunch.
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soogar said:
You are so right. I could see Canada helping to secure a gold for Russia in womens in exchange for say a bronze for Buttle in the mens. It is not beyond them. I am Canadian and Canadians do not support Americans the way they do us, it is a fact.
slutskayafan21 said:
Your are so right. Of course I am American but do not support Canadians recklessly the way some Americans do. I much prefer the Russian and European men. Sandhu is good but only when he doesn't have a breakdown and I am not a fan of Buttle (too boring and a Kurt wannabe IMO).
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Maybe but I think the US judge will be marking Cohen higher who happens to be more of a favorite for this event. Kwan should be battling it out for a bronze but didn't you realize this? Slutskaya is numero uno for this event. Not even a hunch.slutskayafan21 said:
Canada will have Joannie in 4th while all the other judges have her in 7th.
Italy will have Kostner in 1st or 2nd depending. and with Slutskaya and Kwan in 2nd and 3rd to rub it in on the podium.
The Europeans do not want an Asian to win this. It is obvious. Those poor Japanese girls have lost it right now except it is possible that there could be a spiteful vote for Shizuka.
Hungary, Russia, Slovakia, Ukraine have better ties with each other than any other group, imo. If they make the cut, that's 4 votes for Irina. Just one more will do it and it can come from anywhere.
Conspiracy theories? - NONE. Cutural bias theories? some. Nationality theories? all over the place.
Teenybopper Win? Well, one never know do one. Go Kimmie.
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Absolutely she can win... And I'd hazard a guess that Kwan won't be written off as easily by her competitiors as she is in this board...
Well, my hunch is US judge will mark Cohen higher than Irina, let Kwan battle it out herself. The same way he/she did at SLC's LP.slutskayafan21 said:
There is no way Canadian judge will vote for MK, the Canadian judge usually gave Kwan the lowest score in the panel for last a few years, when the score and panel judge are displayed.
THE FOLLOWING IS A HOPE, NOT A PREDICTION
My hope is that the winner will be clear cut, therefore leaving the judges no choice but to award the gold to her. In other words, if you didn't think she was the best, you must have been smoking something, no matter where you're from.
But it won't be as big a hope if that person happens to be Irina.
My hope is that the winner will be clear cut, therefore leaving the judges no choice but to award the gold to her. In other words, if you didn't think she was the best, you must have been smoking something, no matter where you're from.
But it won't be as big a hope if that person happens to be Irina.
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I just intercepted a message from the Australian Figure Skating Federation to the USFSA. Decoded, it said,slutskayafan21 said:
"Waltzin' Matilda, waltzin' Matilda,
Who'll go a-waltzin', Matilda, with me?
And it's Kwan and it's Cohen and it's Carter on the podium!
We'll go a-waltzin' Matilda with thee."
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Michelle Kwan can't be counted out in any competition she participates in, but at this point, she has to be considered a longshot, at best, for the Olympic gold medal.
She hasn't competed in a "real" competition since Worlds last year, and she has yet to prove before an international panel of judges that she had adapted her programs to COP.
I wish her the best, and I hope she skates the programs of her life in Torino.
If she wins, it will be a glorious surprise.
She hasn't competed in a "real" competition since Worlds last year, and she has yet to prove before an international panel of judges that she had adapted her programs to COP.
I wish her the best, and I hope she skates the programs of her life in Torino.
If she wins, it will be a glorious surprise.
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It's easy for me to PREDICT Slutskaya, Cohen and Arakawa. I'm not HOPING any of them win. It's just realistic. And if I'm wrong, that's ok. I'm not afraid of being wrong as some posters are.
Joe
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MK won't win gold because Irina will. Hellooooo? The Olympics are just an award-giving ceremony for the already annointed OGM! (The Mao Asada GPF win was obviously just an attempt at making it appear that there's some objectivity; without Asada at the Olys, though, isn't it extremely obvious who's going to win -- regardless of how sloppy, ugly, or flawed the skating is?)
MK and the Olypmics
Well, no matter what her final placement is; The reason I booked my trip (back in November) to Turin is b/c Michelle Kwan is going to be there!!!!
It is not a complete stretch to consider Michelle winning a gold b/c we DEFINATELY have seen stranger things happen, like at the last Olympics where Michelle was placed third behind Irina (stupid American Judge LOL) and Sarah actually winning the gold. So don't count her out. As long as she's there and healthy, she can win. All I know is that Michelle is a beautiful, consistent skater who will live in skating history as not many others do (no one at this Olympics compares even if they win the Gold). I can't wait untill I leave on February 17. AB :yes:
Well, no matter what her final placement is; The reason I booked my trip (back in November) to Turin is b/c Michelle Kwan is going to be there!!!!
It is not a complete stretch to consider Michelle winning a gold b/c we DEFINATELY have seen stranger things happen, like at the last Olympics where Michelle was placed third behind Irina (stupid American Judge LOL) and Sarah actually winning the gold. So don't count her out. As long as she's there and healthy, she can win. All I know is that Michelle is a beautiful, consistent skater who will live in skating history as not many others do (no one at this Olympics compares even if they win the Gold). I can't wait untill I leave on February 17. AB :yes:
