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i was not quoting you and replying directly, your post was just an occasion to say something myself. Many dont understand me, it is not the first time.
I think the two different pannels for TES and PCS would have been a great start as we had discussed also in the past, but since it we agreed it is not too realistic, we can keep complain?
As informative as posts from gkelly can be - when I suggested a panel for tech and for components it seemed to draw a blank.
There are more complaints at GS about the marks for components than for the tech.
Some fans think that is OK and we should just continue with the pcs being little more than reputation marks. Perhaps some of these fans are artistically challenged people in real life.:think:
I may not have the answer but know the biggest problem with the IJS is the way the pcs are categorized and scored.
Who can honestly say it is more important to call out levels for spins while putting up with a system that can barely differenciate between SS, TR, CH, IN and PE. And understanding how they must work together to create a satisfying presentation.
I do not believe in 9 for TR, 7 for IN and 8 for CH because they are all part of the same thing.
Chan does more TR than most skaters but as a musician I can safely say he does not yet put it all togther musically and as far as true artistry goes. He is still learning and his skates appear to be going through the CoP motions rather than expressing anything meaningful as it relates to his music.
Doing more - the curse of skating by numbers - works in Chan's favor. Doing less, but creating a mood and having balance the way Weir at his best can do is penalized because the judges just don't know the difference - or the rules seem to be bent against good taste or anything different.
I am not a judge but I know style when I see it. Miki gets high pcs at times and for what?
Evan was getting huge pcs last season and I say for what? Who is the CoP kidding? Because Lori is Evan's choreographer she sold some people who should not be judging on his "artistry?"
Giime a break...and a half
The politics and reputation still rule skating.
Besides the FACT that artistry is subjective .........I say that no matter what we like it is purely comparitive, and never based on a number for IN, CH,r TR or SS - but ONLY on how they are blended together to create the intended effect. Obviously no one plans to fall down three times in an SP - but please don't tell me that deserves top pcs when it happens. That is a wreck of an SP and it demonstrates clearly the weakness of the CoP.
For now I call it the "Kwan factor" because if anyone thinks Patrick Chan is a more artistic skater than Michelle Kwan I would say - holy cow!
I can easily see how the CoP would rate Kwan as average artistically - basically for the crime of actually interpreting the music and not throwing in all the worthless CoP point getting gestures and moves.
Of course ultimately it would depend on who was politicing for her.........
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