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If Miki freaking Ando has 2 World titles it would be a travesty if Kostner does not get atleast 1. She is a far superior skater to Ando.
Last year we had a champion without a flip, the year before a champion without a salchow, in 2009 a champion without a loop and the list goes on and on...why the problem presents only know with carolina who is not doing the lutz? It's ridicolous...There's much more than a jump in figure skating..
If Miki freaking Ando has 2 World titles it would be a travesty if Kostner does not get atleast 1. She is a far superior skater to Ando.
Wagner flutzes, though she got a pass from the 4CC panel.
Czisny lips.
Asada flutzes.
Suzuki sometimes she gets edge calls, sometimes she does not.
Murakami flutzes.
Shelepen: full set!
Korobeynikova: full set!
Leonova: full set; sometimes gets edge calls.
Kostner: no lutz this season.
OT but lutz is my least favorite jump, it looks unnatural rotating this way, even the junior jumping beans dont make me like it. Sorry mr Lutz.
I agree that ideally champion skaters will be able to do everything well. However, there will be times when no such skater(s) exist - and when that happens, I don't think there is one specific element that should be considered the price of admission if you want to be a champion (beyond the existing program requirements). The last few ladies to win were all missing jumps from their repertoire - and that includes the OGM; three men's world champions in a row did not land a rotated quad - and that also includes the OGM; S/S often struggle with syncing their spins. This does not necessarily make them unworthy champions IMO; if they were the best in the competition - and it doesn't matter which competition - then they deserved to win. Some more than othersI think a World Champion should be able to execute ALL the jumps. A World Champion should be "well rounded" in the sport of figure skating. A World Champion should demonstrate spins, footwork, sprials,jumps, edges in a well choreographed program. I still believe that "Figures" should be part of showing a skaters ability.
Why? Does the angry ghost of Mr Lutz come in your sleep and asks for an explanation?I always get in trouble when I say things like this, but the problem with the Lutz is that it is not a ladies' jump.
This thread begs the question if skaters should have to attempt each type of jump in their program (regardless of how many rotations), or else they receive a deduction. Can't do a Triple Lutz? Well you have to put a Double Lutz in the program.
Arguments can be made either way. I'm more on the the side of "NO, that shouldn't be a requirement" (variety is a good thing), but not 100% set in that opinion.
There should definitely be a bonus for properly executing all of the different types of jumps in a program, though.
No, the toe loop lands on the OPPOSITE foot you picked with (which is the foot you took off from as the edge-riding foot leaves the ice before the toe picking foot), the flip and Lutz land on the same foot you picked with.^ I meant, for the toe loop, that you land on the same foot that you took off from, etc.
Two words here: Midori Ito. She wasn't the most consistent skater of figures, but she DID have it all...Agree, except the Figures part seems impractical. The dominating hours which "world class" figures took would make having "all the jumps" as well near super human. If the World Champion in 2012 does not have a triple lutz, then it is more a reflection of the sport than what 'ought to be' IMO.