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Yeah, that's an ouch. V/M have the tech score from last year, of course, and they're eligible for Worlds, but ouch.
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Yeah, that's an ouch. V/M have the tech score from last year, of course, and they're eligible for Worlds, but ouch.
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I think it is. Neither team seems as half as prepared as they did at the beginning of last year... the programs don't seem as cohesive... I don't think the coaches are as good seperate as they are together... but it's early and they could prove me wrong.
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Yeah, I won't deny I'm worried now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7lAs6Lze-0
in all honesty and no spite, that miss on the lift was slightly funny. flailing bodies and costume malfunction.
C/L: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_rVALzqm2o&feature=plcp
H/D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NF-ujBkdqQ&feature=plcp
classy universal sports wont even show top 3 skaters/teams, allotted space for americans. how "universal" of them.
in all honesty and no spite, that miss on the lift was slightly funny. flailing bodies and costume malfunction.
C/L: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_rVALzqm2o&feature=plcp
H/D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NF-ujBkdqQ&feature=plcp
classy universal sports wont even show top 3 skaters/teams, allotted space for americans. how "universal" of them.
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I totally agree. I am surprised they got positive GOE on it no matter how little. Also thought the GOE on the twizzles was VERY lenient. Scott obviously made an error.
All the same they are a joy to watch. I understand the PCS having seen it.
B/S beat D/W in levels in the FD, not the SD.
D/W's SD vs V/M's SD:
YP DW: level2 for the first segment and level4 for the second; total: 13.92
YP VM: level3 for the first segment and level2 for the second; total: 12.79
Twizzles DW: level4, 7.33
Twizzles VM: level3, 6.00
Step Sequence DW: level3, 8.83
Step Sequence VM: level2, 7.00
Lift DW: level4, 5.17
Lift VM: level1, 1.93
TES DW: 35.25
TES VM: 27.72
PCS DW: 37.14
PCS VM: 37.37
D/W's SD vs V/M's SD:
YP DW: level2 for the first segment and level4 for the second; total: 13.92
YP VM: level3 for the first segment and level2 for the second; total: 12.79
Twizzles DW: level4, 7.33
Twizzles VM: level3, 6.00
Step Sequence DW: level3, 8.83
Step Sequence VM: level2, 7.00
Lift DW: level4, 5.17
Lift VM: level1, 1.93
TES DW: 35.25
TES VM: 27.72
PCS DW: 37.14
PCS VM: 37.37
I thought SCI used international judges? Why would it be more corrupt than any other GP event using international judges?
You beat me to the video post, 1795.
Very interesting. Davis and White had a similar problem with their lift at SA in the sd, but not quite as prolonged as that by Tessa and Scott.
Surely it was not just the lift that had V/M being scored uncharacteristically low. I admire V/M skill, but I have never really been over the moon with their skating in terms of their character and personality on the ice. OTOH, I am in love with Weaver/ Poje and Davis/ White, and I also enjoy Mitchell/ Islam, and Gilles/ Poirier much more than V/M.
I think D/W sd is better than V/M this season.
Very interesting. Davis and White had a similar problem with their lift at SA in the sd, but not quite as prolonged as that by Tessa and Scott.
Surely it was not just the lift that had V/M being scored uncharacteristically low. I admire V/M skill, but I have never really been over the moon with their skating in terms of their character and personality on the ice. OTOH, I am in love with Weaver/ Poje and Davis/ White, and I also enjoy Mitchell/ Islam, and Gilles/ Poirier much more than V/M.
I think D/W sd is better than V/M this season.
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I'm not sure what you mean. I saw all the teams on my Universal stream. No problems.
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YES both top Zueva teams need a LOT of refinement. so far, Scott and Charlie are looking like they're throwing and tossing their partners up in the air like pizza dough while there is no polish in all the positions.Back to lift technique practices for Canton top teams.
I thought however Tessa hanging like a corpse on that rotational lift did fit the dirge-like part of the music.
YES both top Zueva teams need a LOT of refinement. so far, Scott and Charlie are looking like they're throwing and tossing their partners up in the air like pizza dough while there is no polish in all the positions.
I thought however Tessa hanging like a corpse on that rotational lift did fit the dirge-like part of the music.
Well Meryl and Charlie had a much more polished sd than did Tessa and Scott. Plus D/W got out of the wonky lift a lot faster than V/M too.
D/W do need to continue working on the finer points of their fd. Let's see how V/M fd fares at SC. I'm sure they will rock it out of the arena, if the practices are any clue.- Joined
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YES both top Zueva teams need a LOT of refinement. so far, Scott and Charlie are looking like they're throwing and tossing their partners up in the air like pizza dough while there is no polish in all the positions.
I thought however Tessa hanging like a corpse on that rotational lift did fit the dirge-like part of the music.
Sorry, but saying there is no polish in Meryl Davis' position in the rotational lift at Skate America strikes me as being as close to objectively wrong as figure skating can get.
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He said that it was the one he hurt himself on and there was debate about taking it out. I think they will be taking it out.
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Exactly this. I really love this program. It absolutely suits them, and will be a great contrast to Carmen. I really love how the polka and rest of the program blend so seamlessly. The technical elements are completely fixable. V/M always improve throughout the season. Next outing will more than likely be 10 points higher. I don't have a problem with their PCS scores so high. Their skating skills, interpretation, unison, beauty, quality edges, and so on are really in a class by themselves. It's simply divine. You'll notice there are no 10's in the score sheet this time. By the end of the season I'm sure there will be.
Zueva should call in a known technician, or send her students elsewhere for a week, for Yankee Doodle and step sequence boot camp. (I'm not sure we can blame this entirely on Zueva, since the Canton teams did miss levels on their pattern dance sequences last year even with Igor. And none of his teams this year earned level 4's.) They need a specialist for this. V/M were just off a little on the twizzles, and they are capable of doing much better. I expect the lift will be changed.
Of the other teams:
- really liked C/L. They are dressed well, moved well, and are just lovely. And awfully easy on the eyes....
- liked H/D. They have a ton of potential. Gorgeous, well matched team.
- French had the most entertaining program. I was expecting to hate the program, but it was just so cheesy it worked for me. By worlds this should be a lot of fun.
- Really glad that G/P received more appropriate marks. I was hoping an international judging panel would put some sense into the placement of this team. I love that they are having fun together, but they need to be more matched in skills, lines, edge etc. before they deserve the marks they have received in the past. And this will take some time, since skills like this are not built overnight. Watch the video, paying attention only to G/P feet, then compare with other teams. His are fine, but hers are really messy, missing toe points, and almost flat instead of on edges often.
- Still very sad for R/H. They need better material and better costumes. After such a good year last year, they are back to sub-par programs and packaging. So sad.
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