Spanish Championships Senior Free Dance: Results; Protocols
Spanish Championships Senior Ice Dance: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONhht7177_s
Sofía and Asaf finished 2nd out of 3 in the FD, with a score of 108.08. This meant that they remained in 2nd position overall, with a score of 178.79.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread at the time:
So that everything is on the table, here is what I wrote about Olivia and Tim's Free Dance in the competition thread:
Unfortunately, the Entries / Results page has been playing up since Sunday morning. It tries for ages to load, and then times out. So, we didn't actually know the results after Olivia and Tim skated until somebody saw it later on in an Instagram post that the Fed had put up.
Sofía and Asaf finished the Free Dance 3.86 points behind 1st position, Olivia Sophie SMART / Tim DIECK (CAT), and 25.73 points ahead of 3rd position, Philomene SABOURIN / Raul BERMEJO GUTIERREZ (MAD).
Overall, Sofía and Asaf finished 6.19 points behind 1st position, Smart / Dieck, and 40.33 points ahead of 3rd position, Sabourin / Bermejo.
Our resident video archive compiler was the first to reply after we were told the results, and said:
The problems with the Entries / Results page also means that I can't actually analyse the Protocols in this post, because I can't get into them! There was one brief moment on Sunday when I was able to get them opened, and I wrote a brief summary. I wish now that I had written more, but the event was still ongoing.
This was the general feeling amongst those of us that were watching. After I posted that, the archiver replied:
The conversation between us then went on, but since it was mostly about Olivia and Tim, I will not copy it in here.
One of the Dutch members also replied with the following:
If anybody wants to read the whole discussion about the Ice Dance showdown in the competition thread, it starts here and continues onto most of the following page (with interruptions about the Junior Singles skaters).
It is not often that the results of a competition leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but this one did. I feel sorry for both partnerships. Sofía and Asaf for not winning when they were better in both segments. And Olivia and Tim for not being allowed to show what they were capable of on their own terms.
We were all looking forward to what was gearing up to be an exciting tight battle between the two partnerships. But, because of unfair scoring, we were robbed of what would have been an epic showdown.
They may not have won the title, but Sofía and Asaf did everything they could in their attempts to do so. The fact that they got absolute Personal Best scores in both segments and overall is evidence of that.
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Spanish Championships Senior Ice Dance: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONhht7177_s
Sofía and Asaf finished 2nd out of 3 in the FD, with a score of 108.08. This meant that they remained in 2nd position overall, with a score of 178.79.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread at the time:
That was magical. I was mesmerised.
I couldn't write anything during it. Not that there was anything to point out. It looked flawless.
Sofía looked to be spinning faster than Asaf in the Twizzles. But, I think it was an illusion, because they didn't seem to go out of sync.
I haven't seen Olivia and Tim's Free yet, but it is going to have to be very good to be better than that.
Yep both Sara and Kirill with them.
WELL DONE SOFÍA AND ASAF!!!
CaroLiza_fan
I couldn't write anything during it. Not that there was anything to point out. It looked flawless.
Sofía looked to be spinning faster than Asaf in the Twizzles. But, I think it was an illusion, because they didn't seem to go out of sync.
I haven't seen Olivia and Tim's Free yet, but it is going to have to be very good to be better than that.
Yep both Sara and Kirill with them.
WELL DONE SOFÍA AND ASAF!!!
CaroLiza_fan
So that everything is on the table, here is what I wrote about Olivia and Tim's Free Dance in the competition thread:
Ach, when I heard "Also Sprach Zarathustra" at the start, I thought we would be getting a full "2001" programme, or at least a full sci-fi programme. But, alas.
After the epic music at the start, the rest of the music used was a big let down.
Honestly, I didn't really like that programme. And that is not me being biased because they are up against a partnership that I have adopted. It just didn't do anything for me.
They skated well. But, it just wasn't my sort of programme.
Now for the moment of truth.
Tim doesn't look very happy waiting for the results. Olivia is more animated.
The livescoring page is taking forever to load. Come on, I want to know who won!
CaroLiza_fan
After the epic music at the start, the rest of the music used was a big let down.
Honestly, I didn't really like that programme. And that is not me being biased because they are up against a partnership that I have adopted. It just didn't do anything for me.
They skated well. But, it just wasn't my sort of programme.
Now for the moment of truth.
Tim doesn't look very happy waiting for the results. Olivia is more animated.
The livescoring page is taking forever to load. Come on, I want to know who won!
CaroLiza_fan
Unfortunately, the Entries / Results page has been playing up since Sunday morning. It tries for ages to load, and then times out. So, we didn't actually know the results after Olivia and Tim skated until somebody saw it later on in an Instagram post that the Fed had put up.
Sofía and Asaf finished the Free Dance 3.86 points behind 1st position, Olivia Sophie SMART / Tim DIECK (CAT), and 25.73 points ahead of 3rd position, Philomene SABOURIN / Raul BERMEJO GUTIERREZ (MAD).
Overall, Sofía and Asaf finished 6.19 points behind 1st position, Smart / Dieck, and 40.33 points ahead of 3rd position, Sabourin / Bermejo.
Our resident video archive compiler was the first to reply after we were told the results, and said:
I did get to see the SD rewind and I think Sofia & Asaf were better, but I have no idea how either team scored. Olivia & Tim don't seem to improved much at all and his mistake on the twizzles was costly. They seem to have stalled and I say this as one of the fans who really thought this should be a lot of fun.
The problems with the Entries / Results page also means that I can't actually analyse the Protocols in this post, because I can't get into them! There was one brief moment on Sunday when I was able to get them opened, and I wrote a brief summary. I wish now that I had written more, but the event was still ongoing.
Can't say I'm surprised that Olivia and Tim won. It was obvious yesterday that they were the "chosen" ones.
Skating Scores doesn't have the Protocols for the Free up yet, but I managed to get them opened during a brief moment that the Entries / Results page was working.
Here are the two sets of Protocols:
Short Dance - https://www.rfedh.es/wp-content/upl...------QUAL000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf
Free Dance - https://www.rfedh.es/wp-content/upl...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf
The Protocols from both segments are so similar:
For me, the partnership that did better in both their programmes did not win.
Oh, I hate the way Ice Dance is so full of politics.
CaroLiza_fan
Skating Scores doesn't have the Protocols for the Free up yet, but I managed to get them opened during a brief moment that the Entries / Results page was working.
Here are the two sets of Protocols:
Short Dance - https://www.rfedh.es/wp-content/upl...------QUAL000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf
Free Dance - https://www.rfedh.es/wp-content/upl...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf
The Protocols from both segments are so similar:
- Sofía and Asaf clean in both programmes; Olivia and Tim with Twizzle issues in both programmes.
- Sofía and Asaf higher TES in both programmes; Olivia and Tim higher PCS in both programmes.
- Sofía and Asaf lower Judges marks than Olivia and Tim in both programmes.
For me, the partnership that did better in both their programmes did not win.
Oh, I hate the way Ice Dance is so full of politics.
CaroLiza_fan
This was the general feeling amongst those of us that were watching. After I posted that, the archiver replied:
I am with you on this one. It does not seem correct and I say this as a fan of both teams.
The conversation between us then went on, but since it was mostly about Olivia and Tim, I will not copy it in here.
One of the Dutch members also replied with the following:
Thanks for the FD protocols (and the RD, but at that moment in time the results page was working). I saw both couples this afternoon (and the third, but they were way behind) and I must say that I also thought Sophía and Asaf should have got the win. And I'm a fan of Olivia's.
If anybody wants to read the whole discussion about the Ice Dance showdown in the competition thread, it starts here and continues onto most of the following page (with interruptions about the Junior Singles skaters).
It is not often that the results of a competition leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but this one did. I feel sorry for both partnerships. Sofía and Asaf for not winning when they were better in both segments. And Olivia and Tim for not being allowed to show what they were capable of on their own terms.
We were all looking forward to what was gearing up to be an exciting tight battle between the two partnerships. But, because of unfair scoring, we were robbed of what would have been an epic showdown.
They may not have won the title, but Sofía and Asaf did everything they could in their attempts to do so. The fact that they got absolute Personal Best scores in both segments and overall is evidence of that.
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan