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Solène Mazingue pursues legal action for sexual assault

Because coaches are paid by skaters (or feds) and if skater expects that the paid service includes emotional support, they should get it. Aside from coaches creating public image of being supportive and caring towards the skaters.
You are expecting coaches to provide extra work in which they are not obligated to do.

And coaches are not professional counselors

Don't expect them to provide the necessary emotional help. If you are expectint this from them then you will be disappointed
 
You are expecting coaches to provide extra work in which they are not obligated to do.

And coaches are not professional counselors

Don't expect them to provide the necessary emotional help. If you are expectint this from them then you will be disappointed
Considering what it takes to train a figure skater, psychological counseling and mentality coaching should be included, just like dietetician, ballet training and so on. But if it isn't included, coaches who can't provide professional help are still allowed to show simple human kindness towards person they know very well and probably for a long time. Do you think it's that much extra work or that it should be available only on paid subscription?
 
Considering what it takes to train a figure skater, psychological counseling and mentality coaching should be included, just like dietetician, ballet training and so on. But if it isn't included, coaches who can't provide professional help are still allowed to show simple human kindness towards person they know very well and probably for a long time. Do you think it's that much extra work or that it should be available only on paid subscrt
Considering what it takes to train a figure skater, psychological counseling and mentality coaching should be included, just like dietetician, ballet training and so on. But if it isn't included, coaches who can't provide professional help are still allowed to show simple human kindness towards person they know very well and probably for a long time. Do you think it's that much extra work or that it should be available only on paid subscription?T


there is a team of dance coaches, doctors, Massage therapists on most of the major coaching centres. Some of the centres have psychologists. As I said coaches are not obligated to do psychological consultations. If you are expecting to do so then it it is your own expectation and you may be disappointed. IAM coaches won't lose its reputation for that. Just look at the number of teams that is flocking there. Don't go off the topic thinking I am referring to some unknown skating centers. We are talking about IAM specifically in this thread
 
Because coaches are paid by skaters (or feds) and if skater expects that the paid service includes emotional support, they should get it. Aside from coaches creating public image of being supportive and caring towards the skaters.
Leave professional work for professionals.

Yagudin had worked with a psychologist for a number of years to prepare for Nagano games.

Tarasova is responsible for training his skating skills.

Actually he lived with Tarasova and other skaters all in her home.

They cooked and ate together. Lived together all under the same roof

But at the same time he has a professional psychologist to get him mentally for the Olympics
 
This interview contains more details on what happened in the case of Solène Mazingue.

I'm sorry but I can't read it b/c it is making you pay to subscribe to see the full article. :(
 
Solene has encouraged anyone who experienced sexual assault in figure skating to reach out to her, anonymously or not, as they choose. She prepared and uploaded a form in which to report and an email address to collect testimonies of what is really happening within the sport.
Some testimonies she posted so far are anonymous, for the public at least, but truly heartbreaking.
I will not bring them up here, but I feel some info on her collecting the testimonies should be available here.


 
Ivan Desyatov's suspension with SafeSport was updated to permanent ineligibility today:

Source

Ivan Desyatov
On October 18, 2024, U.S. Figure Skating adopted measures issued by the U.S. Center for SafeSport temporarily suspending the membership of Ivan Desyatov. On December 19, 2025, the U.S. Center for SafeSport modified the sanction to the following:

Sanction: Permanent Ineligibility. Beginning on December 19, 2025, Ivan Desyatov is permanently prohibited from participating, in any capacity, in any event, program, activity, or competition authorized by, organized by, or under the auspices of the United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee (USOPC), the National Governing Bodies recognized by the USOPC, a Local Affiliated Organization as defined by the Code, or at a facility under the jurisdiction of the same.

Pursuant to U.S. Figure Skating Bylaw Article XXV, Section 2, U.S. Figure Skating hereby adopts the Sanction imposed by the Center finding Ivan Desyatov Permanently Ineligible effective December 19, 2025.
 
Desyatov already indicated on social media earlier this year that he had to move on from the sport since he could no longer train or compete under the 'temporary suspension pending investigation.' I wonder what evidence SS has, since they have shown no signs of having investigated what essentially is a 'she-said, he-said' (w/o the 'he-said' part being heard) involving two people who had a close friendship, including previously dating and also training and living together in Moscow with her former partner whom she was then dating. There's also documented evidence gathered by investigative journalists and interested parties, which reveal discrepancies by the complainant and an online smear campaign perpetrated against Desyatov, which included a serious falsehood, later retracted in the article published in France and translated into English with discrepancies in meaning.

It seems to me that SS is trying to get out from under the questionable limbo this case has been in, prior to the high-profile 2026 Olympics. At the very least, SS finally posting a decision without any discernible investigation btw, finally allows Desyatov to at least appeal and hopefully to finally receive full and fair due process. He may also have grounds to pursue defamation. Possibly, a lot more is going to be happening. There are many pertinent details I have seen reported that the complainant left out of what she initially claimed. There is a relevant Substack article by reporter, George Perry, which discusses the Desyatov case and some other SS cases across multiple sports:

"Abuse of process: Temporary punishments damage athletes' careers," by George MJ Perry on substack.com

Interestingly, Mr. Perry noted the following four days ago:
"Since this article was published on November 2, [2025] the U.S. Center for Safesport has made 4 of the 8 remaining 'temporary' suspensions from 2021 or 2022 'permanent'. Why now? Why clear out this backlog now?"

And then yesterday, the Desyatov case from 2024 was made 'permanent,' again without any discernible thorough investigation. In regard to questionable issues surrounding this case, what I have mentioned is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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Desyatov already indicated on social media earlier this year that he had to move on from the sport since he could no longer train or compete under the 'temporary suspension pending investigation.' I wonder what evidence SS has, since they have shown no signs of having investigated what essentially is a 'she-said, he-said' (w/o the 'he-said' part being heard) involving two people who had a close friendship, including previously dating and also training and living together in Moscow with her former partner whom she was then dating. There's also documented evidence gathered by investigative journalists and interested parties, which reveal discrepancies by the complainant and an online smear campaign perpetrated against Desyatov, which included a serious falsehood, later retracted in the article published in France and translated into English with discrepancies in meaning.

It seems to me that SS is trying to get out from under the questionable limbo this case has been in, prior to the high-profile 2026 Olympics. At the very least, SS finally posting a decision without any discernible investigation btw, finally allows Desyatov to at least appeal and hopefully to finally receive full and fair due process. He may also have grounds to pursue defamation. Possibly, a lot more is going to be happening. There are many pertinent details I have seen reported that the complainant left out of what she initially claimed. There is a relevant Substack article by reporter, George Perry, which discusses the Desyatov case and some other SS cases across multiple sports:

"Abuse of process: Temporary punishments damage athletes' careers," by George MJ Perry on substack.com

Interestingly, Mr. Perry noted the following four days ago:
"Since this article was published on November 2, [2025] the U.S. Center for Safesport has made 4 of the 8 remaining 'temporary' suspensions from 2021 or 2022 'permanent'. Why now? Why clear out this backlog now?"

And then yesterday, the Desyatov case from 2024 was made 'permanent,' again without any discernible thorough investigation. In regard to questionable issues surrounding this case, what I have mentioned is just the tip of the iceberg.
you trusting a man over the victim is horrifying... you are the reason more female athletes are scared to speak out about accusers... sad to see actual human write this
 
Desyatov already indicated on social media earlier this year that he had to move on from the sport since he could no longer train or compete under the 'temporary suspension pending investigation.' I wonder what evidence SS has, since they have shown no signs of having investigated what essentially is a 'she-said, he-said' (w/o the 'he-said' part being heard) involving two people who had a close friendship, including previously dating and also training and living together in Moscow with her former partner whom she was then dating. There's also documented evidence gathered by investigative journalists and interested parties, which reveal discrepancies by the complainant and an online smear campaign perpetrated against Desyatov, which included a serious falsehood, later retracted in the article published in France and translated into English with discrepancies in meaning.

It seems to me that SS is trying to get out from under the questionable limbo this case has been in, prior to the high-profile 2026 Olympics. At the very least, SS finally posting a decision without any discernible investigation btw, finally allows Desyatov to at least appeal and hopefully to finally receive full and fair due process. He may also have grounds to pursue defamation. Possibly, a lot more is going to be happening. There are many pertinent details I have seen reported that the complainant left out of what she initially claimed. There is a relevant Substack article by reporter, George Perry, which discusses the Desyatov case and some other SS cases across multiple sports:

"Abuse of process: Temporary punishments damage athletes' careers," by George MJ Perry on substack.com

Interestingly, Mr. Perry noted the following four days ago:
"Since this article was published on November 2, [2025] the U.S. Center for Safesport has made 4 of the 8 remaining 'temporary' suspensions from 2021 or 2022 'permanent'. Why now? Why clear out this backlog now?"

And then yesterday, the Desyatov case from 2024 was made 'permanent,' again without any discernible thorough investigation. In regard to questionable issues surrounding this case, what I have mentioned is just the tip of the iceberg.
The "article" on substack isn't relevant. It's disgusting and omitting many relevant things. As a person who works with journalists daily, I would not want to work with person who wrote it.
Sadly, you sound like this one member of gsk I don't want to meet in person.
 
you trusting a man over the victim is horrifying... you are the reason more female athletes are scared to speak out about accusers... sad to see actual human write this
I am speaking of documented evidence and other details that I am aware of in this particular case. Is it really better to assume that every single person who is accused of anything is guilty without full, fair, and thorough investigation of the facts, and access to due process for the accused? If a serious accusation was made against you or someone you care about, wouldn't you want to have access to a full and fair hearing? Mr. Desyatov has responsibly adhered to Safesport directives while being treated egregiously throughout this entire chaotic, unfair, undisciplined, and abusive process.

In fact, Safesport has been under Congressional investigation recently for financial irregularities; failure to appropriately respond to legal demands; and for irresponsible hiring practices [they hired an investigator who was later found to have previously been convicted of abuse himself 👀]; They have caused more harm than any kind of protection for both accused and accusers in cases across multiple sports.

SS actually indicated to persons asking about the Desyatov case that, "we have to believe it's true." They said this in the beginning without any investigation. That goes against the basic human right of 'presumed innocent until proven guilty.' That is setting a dangerous precedent. Under this set of circumstances, anyone with an agenda could decide to make a claim against someone they were intent on causing harm, particularly in terms of ending their athletic career, with the full knowledge that they would be believed and the person they accused would be prevented from saying anything, and effectively silenced for the foreseeable future, often for years.

Obviously, it is statistically rare that claims are made falsely, but there have been instances of questionable claims, and overturned SS decisions. Each claim needs to be treated seriously and swiftly investigated. Abuses in figure skating, especially coach abuses against students have been widespread and alarming, ever since finally beginning to be publicly reported in the 1990s. Specifically, though, in the Desyatov case, many documented details are extremely concerning and should be fully aired, fairly resolved, and not swept under the rug.

The Safesport system itself needs to be fully examined, reformed, and held accountable. U.S. figure skating and the ISU need to stop hiding their heads in the sand and expecting the serious problem of abuse in figure skating to be magically resolved. What is needed is responsible, hands-on leadership, not over-reactionary attempts at face-saving. It's important to recognize that abuse is a human issue which touches everyone of us. It's not something that happens over there, out of sight out of mind, that a faulty entity like Safesport should be expected to neatly, fairly, and swiftly resolve behind-the-scenes without any oversight or public accountability.

Your comment toward me is one in which you appear to be 'taking sides.' I take no sides on the issue of abuse of any kind. No one should feel they cannot speak out. Sadly, many who have suffered horrific, unspeakable abuse tend to remain silent for many traumatic reasons that have nothing to do with fair-minded persons advocating for full investigation, protection, and due process for everyone involved. Unfortunately, a false claim is what absolutely can lead to egregious harms against those who are suffering or have suffered in silence from a serious instance of abuse, or from habitual, long term abuse.

FYI: Misogyny and horrible sexual abuses have been happening since the beginning of time and are sadly surely happening this very instant. It is a human problem that can never be beneficially or fairly resolved when anger, vindictiveness, fear, silence, emotional overreaction, or careless, dismissive inaction and abuse of process prevail. In the case of 'amateur' sports, there's a serious need to bring together caring people with sound judgement and expertise to be involved in making fair, reasonable, and swift adjudication possible. A big part of that would be not lumping together every abuse claim, which is too often how such cases are treated by online keyboard warriors.

More importantly, in my opinion, it is crucial to end the paralyzing atmosphere of fear, silence, and inaction surrounding abuse claims, coupled simultaneously with detrimental online bullying, labeling and smearing at the mere point of a finger against someone, without access to verifiable information. At the same time, sports authorities should be concerned with instituting awareness campaigns, and other preventive measures and guidelines to guard against abuses, rather than only being ineffectively and inadequately focused on 'reporting' after-the-fact. As we have seen in numerous recent cases in the news, the so-called 'reporting' guidelines often lead nowhere for those seeking help in trying to report abuse.
 
I find it very sad (and wilfully naive) of certain fans to assume that their preferences toward a skater reflects the real life morality and character of an individual who is a stranger to them. Even people you actually know in real life can fool you.


This man is accused of a serious sexual offence. He could be a potentially severe threat to the safety of the women he competes against/trains with. Safesport must have their reasons for the change in status. I wonder if they know something we don't.
 
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Again, making assumptions of guilt without any knowledge of the extensive documented details of this particular case is further proof of how poorly the entire issue of abuse in sports has been mishandled for far too long.

Those who are angry and triggered and making generalized comments against 'men' and 'this man' are demonstrating an unfortunate indictment against all men. The problem of abuse in our culture and sadly in sports cannot be resolved for anyone in an atmosphere of immediate belief that every case is the same and that every accused male athlete is automatically guilty. For each individual case, there must be full, fair investigation, and access to due process.

Moreover, those who have suffered harmful abuse are often afraid to come forward, not only due to serious trauma, but also because the systems in place to report and to be protected are completely inadequate in fairly and swiftly addressing claims. Gracie Gold and Olivia Oliver are only two of many abused women in figure skating who have been met with an obstacle course of indifference, inadequacy, empty platitudes, and years of inaction on their claims.

What Safesport has allowed is a dangerous situation in which there can and have been rare instances of the faulty system in place being weaponized by questionable accusations. This only adds to the inadequate safeguards and serious harms being experienced by those who suffer abuse in fear and silence.
 
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