'Victoria, maybe worried, and maybe not "
- With her Russian duo you, Marina O. began with proven classics - "Swan Lake" ...
- Not began but finished with it. There were a lot of different options and ideas, but their current programs - this is the best for them today.
- Tchaikovsky was the fifth tested music/image?
- We had tried even more before SL. Waltz has a long history. We had to try on a lot of waltz styles. Even at the Grand Prix in Moscow, you can see how many variations of this dance is used in figure skating - from ancient superclassic to a rock waltz.
- You wanted it to fit Victoria?
- I was looking for something to better emphasize the individuality of my athletes.
- It has been, or there is a stereotype that Katsalapov - a professional who will do anything and Sinitsina is to some extent catching up.
- Both Victoria, and Nikita have to carry a heavy workload, she - in 1 direction, he - in the other. Nikita has not yet reached the ceiling of perfection. We can not say that it is particularly difficult for her, but is easy for him.
- But Vick was very worried about this?
- Why should I be responsible for feelings of Victoria? Maybe she was going through tough times, and maybe not. I am responsible only for my feelings.
- But you know about it.
- I know from experience that no one understands his maximum. Maybe they, Victoria and Nikita, thinking that something is their maximum, but there's a lot til perefction. There are a lot of aspects that require improving.
- What is the most important of these aspects for Victoria?
- Basic - artistic impression of the interpretation of music that Victoria shouldnt not just move across the ice but actually feel the music and show these feelings through movement. This is very important because ice dancing - this is not skating to the melody. The movement should transmit mood of the music, and this is possible thanks to the accuracy of performance, proper posture. The music itself Vick understands as an actor, but the expression of music - for her it was new. We are in the process.
Dancing on Ice in need of the libretto
- At Julia Lipnitskaya also initially had problems with the knowledge of music of Elvis Presley, on which you installed the program it?
- Presley This music - this is my perception of the performance. To tell the story for three or four minutes of musical time is not possible, but it is possible to convey the mood, feeling, or character that you're playing, or simply feeling the music. That's what we can do, and Julia - definitely.
- Its impossible to tell the story? really?
- Only if the ISU (International Skating Union) does not oblige to release the libretto. I've never seen a new story created by someone realized. Always in such cases, the questions: "Who is it?", "What is it?", "Why?". But the mood - if you put a number in harmony if skaters do the elements of the rhythms and really execute the program - transfer is possible and necessary.
- About any program Elena Ilinykh / Ruslan Zhiganshin "Frida" I asked not only skaters, to understand whats it about.
- And if you didnt talk to anybody, and you wouldnt know what the story is just looking at ice. & next time watch any program without asking what it is, and tell me what you understood. And then we'll come to the coach and check the answers.
- Have you even manage to understand the side story, only looking at the skating?
- No never. Let us not to go into this, ok? I just wish all the programs to show something that should be shown. But figure skating doesnt feature librettos as in ballet, the space for the programm - a maximum of four minutes, and the ballet lasts three hours. And those three hours is all on paper. In general, I believe that the libretto in ice dancing - is right.
Sinitsina doent have a mask, she's sincere
- Lipnitskaya told in Bordeaux the story how she had a program on the theme of Presley's hit "Devil in Disguise", like you offered to play the imp on the ice to her. Is Sinitsina able to portray smth like that, and not only in the form of classical Russian beauty, that she surely is?
- You know, I didnt want to a way to show Vicki as an imp, I set out to find her a suitable image. Today I see it for what she is on the ice. This is the best that I can now create for their pair
- A smiling, sunny, shining, probably good natured Vika - except that are there any other options?
- Of course possible. She is the skater who is capable of a variety.
- When I talked to S/K for the first time, Nikita was very lively, humorously answering, and Vick agreed with him, & only smiled professionally. I wonder if she hides behind some mask?
- We are developing in dance, dramatics, but if a person is smiling, that does not mean that his face is a mask. I now smile, you can say anything about the mask, but I am very sincere. And I smile almost always. Correct?
- Yes.
- And it's not a mask but a sense of life. And Victoria certainly feels life that way, expresses herself like that.
- Probably yes. But she's not smiling now (Sinitsina passes us this moment - a comment. "R-Sport").
- So now she feels different.
Shibutani: revolution in Olympic year
- Trainer and consultant of team Russia in ice dancing Gennady Karponosov said that Russian coaches lose to Russian "American" ones in stereotypes, chasing after the elements, while the 'American' russian coaches put more harmonious programs.
- And from me, what do you want to hear? It's what Karponossov said. I have my own outlook on the sport and at work. They should bring joy and involve the viewer in the process, to make the audience complicit in creativity. To avoid this: skaters on the ice doing their job, the audience in the stands just sit and watch. People who came to the ice palace, to live in our programs, be inspired. This is credo.
- Why is that?
- Because a lot of the negative aspects of life, and even four minutes of joy that we are able to give them.
- But still you need to win. Pressured by constant increase of requirements to the elements?
- It's the rules, they always require a harmonious tie the technical side of figure skating with art. Talking about the difficulties of the rules - is like thinking about the complexity of compliance with ethics in life.
- But the rules change every year, as opposed to ethical standards.
- But I can not change them, I'm looking forward. Follow the rules.
- Many people wonder, what happened with your pair of Maia and Alex Shibutani, why they suddenly became adults and real athletes?
- The time has come. We tried a lot of styles, much gave them the program to Michael Jackson: They've worked with the participants of the Jackson show learned a lot of movements. It was a revolution in the Olympic year. And this year, they were ready for progress. That is, they are now demonstrating the quality, tried and tested over a number of years. I work with them for a decade.
- The current program they put choreographer Peter Chernyshov. To invite him - your initiative?
- They have worked with him in the show and wanted to do an EX. Did it in a new style for them, he was liked by the judges, and this season set a new program that has undergone a lot of changes. They are thrilled by it. Have chosen music and vocals that reflect their career, and it helps them to perfrorml the program with feeling.
- I'm trying to identify the role of Peter in this achievement.
- I am very grateful to Peter, with him Maia and Alex chose a new style that they really fit them. Peter himself - very passionate and interesting choreographer guys worked with him with great pleasure. The emphasis in the growth of Shibutanis I would attribute to the following: The point is not what they are doing abut HOW they are doing it. And it has come over the years, not suddenly. Just this year, it has become evident. As a result of the work of many choreographers. They have a very good programm with their short dance as well.
- So there's not 1 main influence?
- Yes, its the university. Unlikely the one to get the diploma is grateful to on;y one professor. We have physical training, classical ballet, ballroom dancing ... and it does not deal with one person.
To be original - not the most important
- You also worked with Anna Cappellini and Luca Lanotte, whose program for the track "Sweet Life" Nino Rota from the same movie by Federico Fellini. The Italians are playing italians. How to present this as original?
- And do we always need something superorginal?
- Not always?
- Well, here's a look at the ice (it was during the Grand Prix in Moscow), here we see someone who's superexperimentation too. And how does it look? Its is not the most important thing - to experiment. The most important thing - to make an impression. A impressive harmony.
- Is it possible to create harmony with some warhorse music?
- About music you shouldnt say something like that. About the road you can - it can be worn out, and the music - it is always the possibility of a new vision. Music every time you can listen to again and to hear - in different ways. In a different mood, for example.
- But when you hear the same thing, it affects the appearance.
- It depends on the listener. Many music fans go to concerts to listen to the same work performed by various orchestras. They like to compare.
- "Io ci saro" program Vicki and Nikita takes the Chinese pianist Lang Lang, known as Bang Bang, which he received for an aggressive style of playing. This is not a random choice?
- I offered a theme and musician Alexander Goldstein, who has worked with for many years, I offered me a version with vocals (Andrea) Bocelli, with the piano bits by Lang Lang. I heard that it suits Vick and Nikita.
Memorable is not always wins
- So you've seen your rivals many times?
- No. If you see progress with my pairs, which means that I do not have time for other things. I am totally dedicated to their activities. When I see others, I do this without any assessment, focusing on myself. Watch me as I stand beside the board.
- I saw. But I didnt focus on your eyes.
- Then look into my eyes and see that I look only at my athletes.
- But you have terrific peripheral vision Im sure because
- I'm not a frog.
- You once said that after Sochi ice dancing changed.
- Highly. The speed was the higher, it has more athleticism.
- In theory, presenting today's leaders at the Olympic Games in 2014, there would have been a different?
- Once again you are trying to present everything backwards. I go forward.
- If forward, then your last two Olympic champions Tessa Virtue Games and Scott Moir, Meryl Davis and Charlie White would be different today?
- Absolutely. If they skated now, we would have to show something new.
- With their old skills no way?
- No.
- Preparing for a dialogue with you, I watched "Carmen" by Virtue / Moir a 100 times. Well, I can not believe that today they would have lost it.
- But they did not win with it either. It is not always happens that memorable wins.