When did I ever say that? I can accept many things but please do not lie about what other people said on here. I may have said Adelina could beat Kim on TES on the strength of her spins if she were to nail her jumps.
Well even here you would still be way off base with reality IMHO. Kim and Sotnikova both skating cleanly Kim would easily score higher on both TES and PCS. The quality in their jumps are gulfs apart, Kim has better footwork as well, and Kim I believe has a higher base value too and would easily acquire more GOE points in total if both were clean, even if you were right (which IMO you arent) that Sotnikova would probably get more in spins. That is even in the fantasy Sotnikova could even do a totally clean LP in the true sense of the word with no UR or edge calls whatsoever, which of course is not reality.
As for the spins there seems to be a GoldenSkate myth that has begun that Kim is a mediocre spinner, which is far from true. There was even someone who said Kostner, a very mediocre spinner with the worst layback since Butyrskaya, would be pulling in more GOE on spins, so the myth has gotten too far at this point. Other than maybe Gold and Asada, and even they are debateable, Kim is atleast as strong or better a spinner as anyone in the top 10. She is just so dominant people are needing to pick apart anything she isnt gulfs above the field so they choose spins, and then from there spin the myth all the others are better which is quite comical. Kim garnered 12.68 points on 3 spin elements in her LP at Worlds, 3.28 total in GOE and all 3 spins had some +3s. Message me about Sotnikova`s better spins next time she manages that (and then if that ever comes try going into how a clean Sotnikova would even stay within a clean Kim by 5 points in jump GOE in a typical LP).
Second, there is a difference between a JUMP and a JUMP COMBINATION, but I wouldn't expect you to know the difference.
LOL when someone says jumps they are typically referring to all jumps. Unless you are specificying we are doing a unique breakdown of the quality of solo jumps and jump combinations, but if Sotnikova is losing out on jump combination GOE than she needs to improve those I guess. Either way if Gold is getting more total GOE in her jumps and jump combinations combined her jumps overall are better and getting more GOE just as I said.
Third, virtually every skater has a "chronic UR problem" if Adelina is your standard.
Not not EVERY SKATER has a chronic UR problem. Yu Na Kim and Carolina Kostner certainly dont. Wagner does not anymore. Gold certainly does not, is almost never called for one. Many skaters arent. Nagasu, Sotnikova, and Asada arent èvery skater. Sotnikova`s UR problem is so bad it is almost a built in mistake more than a real mistake per say as she is certain to have a couple per long program basically. Atleast Golds mistakes are almost all actual mistakes due to concentration and nerves as it is almost always a fall, pop, or stumble out of a jump (different jumps each time, which indicates it isnt her technique but still searching for consistency in general) while Sotnikova has certain jumps she frequently gets URs or outright downgrades on. and of course always gets called for a flutz on her lutz, which indicates a much deeper problem in technique, and one people like Gold dont even have to worry about, just finding consistency in competition. That is also a scary reality for Sotnikova as it means she has so much further to go to improve her typical competition jump performance than Gold who simply has to start doing what she does in practice; and while Sotnikova could improve artistically by getting better choreography that showcases her talents (her LP this year was awful) Gold is totally undeveloped artistically at this point and even if her potential might be limited in the artistic side of skating probably can improve more from where she is now there too; and yet Gold is already beating Sotnikova consistently.
I am a big Adelina fan, I do not think she is as good as the top 3, but IMO on talent she is 4th.
Well we will have to agree to disagree then. I dont think she is the 4th best skater right now by any stretch, even overlooking nerves. I think others her age like Gold, Osmond, and even Li and Tuktamysheva (when is the last time she beat Tuk. in a long program now) are passing her by. Wagner is currently a superior skater and competitor, and Suzuki on a good day is too. Also keep in mind you respond to me moreso than vice versa, so it is you trying to force your opinions on me than the other way around. I am fine if you really think Sotnikova is so much better a skater than most of us and her results indicate, but that wont stop me from saying she is overhyped and not as good as a few of her select fans says she is at the moment.
Well, okay... one question ahead: shouldn't chronic UR problems mean that a skater has problems rotating their solo triple jumps - as in, not just those at the end of a combination? Like it is with Nagasu and Asada? Alright, so let's say the answer to that is 1.) yes, chronic UR problems mean already having trouble with other jumps than the 3T at the end of combinations (which your post implies you think Sotnikova has - on several jumps and even DGs at that); or 2.) no, 3-3T< and/or 2A-3T< is already "enough".
