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Frau Muller said:Zhang banging into Totmianina during practice on the morning of the finals. Yeah, right...an accident.
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Frau Muller said:Zhang banging into Totmianina during practice on the morning of the finals. Yeah, right...an accident.

agatha_christie said:One thing I disliked about this Worlds was the medias' insinuation that Zhang/Totmianina's was not an accident, but rather premeditated (on Zhang's part). I mean, accidents do happen, and it is ridiculous that Zhang would risk injuring himself. (And he did injure his back).
Damn sensationalism!
agatha_christie said:One thing I disliked about this Worlds was the medias' insinuation that Zhang/Totmianina's was not an accident, but rather premeditated (on Zhang's part). I mean, accidents do happen, and it is ridiculous that Zhang would risk injuring himself. (And he did injure his back).
Damn sensationalism!
3-3 combo in the LPagatha_christie said:One thing I disliked about this Worlds was the medias' insinuation that Zhang/Totmianina's was not an accident, but rather premeditated (on Zhang's part). I mean, accidents do happen, and it is ridiculous that Zhang would risk injuring himself. (And he did injure his back).
Damn sensationalism!
BEST WORLDS EVER 
eyria said:--Michelle Kwan. I am a longtime, devoted fan, therefore it's particularly sad for me to witness her continuing decline. I don't know why, but Michelle is just not the same skater she used to be. She was once such a consistent, mentally focused, determined competitor. Now, to see her doubling, two-footing, omitting, and falling on jumps, is sad. This was her worst performance in all the Worlds I've seen her at. I am convinced there is something going on with her, beyond just COP or skipping the Grand Prix.
Exactly! MK is the mysterious one. No real website; no diary, no news except editorials, no sightings except at competitions.brad640 said:I agree with most of what you said, especially that something is going on with Michelle. I don't think she will reveal to the media what is going on until after the Olympics.
agatha_christie said:One thing I disliked about this Worlds was the medias' insinuation that Zhang/Totmianina's was not an accident, but rather premeditated (on Zhang's part). I mean, accidents do happen, and it is ridiculous that Zhang would risk injuring himself. (And he did injure his back).
Damn sensationalism!
hongligl said:Me, too, ITA.
I heard something like "Zhang is a male, and T is a female and as a result, T was naturally a victim". How about the collision in 2002 SLC olympics then? I didn't hear any russian coach or athletes emphasize the gender difference.
I just can't figure out why Zhang would even think about to collide with T deliberately. Why should he risk his bright future (he is only 19 years old, and already at this level) for someone who's going to retire soon? If one took it as for the sake of Zhang/Zhang themselves, it should be very clear that S/Z would still be ahead of them no matter how badly S/Z were injured (there was an old chinese saying "the most skinny camel is still bigger than a horse). And it was in Moscow, there must be at least one russian pair at least on the podium as everybody knows for sure. It wouldn't change their ranking so much anyway. If one took it as a strategy of the chinese team as a whole, why should they do it when Zhang/Zhang were in the position of more promising pair for the podium when Shen/Zhao needed to withdraw? And when Russian team claimed M had a dislocation of her spine and T/M would skate last, if S/Z wanted to take advantage of M's possible injury from a "premeditated collision", why S/Z still withdrew? Why had they sacrified Zhang for nothing? There is simply no logical explanation for "premeditated collison".
I just went to Yao's website and there is an article Yao released his reaction to the hype about this accident to a journalist. He really regretted that he was not at the press conference after the competition as he was too busy with Zhao's injury and didn't go to the press conference. He didn't expect that T/M and their coach would make it a big hype. Yao said Zhang/Zhang was in an absolutely normal process of preparing to do a throw jump and Zhang didn't see T was in their way (M was far far away from T, they were not in the middle of preparing for an element), Yao suddenly saw that they were going to collide and shouted at Zhang/Zhang, Zhang slowed down, (not in time to avoid the collision). Yao said otherwise both part would be injured more and Dan Zhang would have been injured too. Yao also mentioned that it was S/Z withdrew from the competition, not T/M who claimed had an spine dislocation(!!!) due to the collision. I didn't see any sign of a severe injury in T/M's skating, it was Zhang who made an uncharacteristic mistake and couldn't bend his back at the end of the program. The poor kid suffered both physically and emotionally (Yao reproached him for being not able to stop in time and T/M's coach rushed to the athletes' change room and scolded Zhang. ) Yao said how could they sacrify their Zhang/Zhang for T/M, it simply doesn't worth it. Although Zhang/Zhang are his number 3 team, they even beat T/M and P/T once. (Everybody knew Yao knows how much he cherishes his youngest pair Zhang/Zhang). Yao was very angry with T/M's coach. He said he would have said to him "Russian is a great nation, and Russia has made great contribution to figure skating. Russian pair skating had been our example. It is normal to have accidents in warm-up occasionally. Why did you treated a kid so badly?"
I find this funny, but Yao said to the journalist who wrote this article that at next olympic he will let his pairs stand by the board watching the russian pairs to warm-up so that they will not have the excuse to blame chinese team and he has the confidence that his pairs would still skate to their best. I wish he is not serious about this.
Anyway, the worst thing for me was S/Z withdrew from the competition. I was so sad. Not much to watch without them. In addition, it is confirmed long ago that S/Z are going to retire after the 2006 olympics. They missed 4CC and this World, and we can count with one hand how many times more we can see them. I'm going to miss them terribly. I felt sorry for Xue Shen. She cried out when she learned that they would have to withdraw.
Best of the World:
Irina's LP to WIN her Gold. What a comeback! So inspiring.
Stenfane Liembel(sp?) won the gold. He's so much more mature than last World, more refined, more powerful, more in control. He got the whole package.
Jeff Buttle won the silver! But at a quad next time!
P/T(Russian)'s reaction to the collision. They have once again shown their excellent personalities. Glad they got a silver after their last Gold. Wish them luck. Actually some chinese fans worried about them after T/M became national heros. I wish people still treat them nicely.
Hikaru said:hongligl, thank you for reporting what was posted on Yao Bin's site (I wish they had an english version, but thank you so much for informing us!! really appreciate it). I didn't see what happened in the warm-up, and I was worried about the recation this would cause. Regarding to Shen and Zhao, I was also very sad when they withdrew, my favorite pair!! I saw Xue crying, and I had never seen her like that, and I know that she was worried about Hongbo's injury, and how much they wanted to do well in this championships. Do you have any news on Hongbo? I'm so going to miss them when they're done with competitions; they really are in a class of their own in today's pair skating.
I hadn't really thought of that, But Carolina could be huge as the face of the Olympics at Torino. She's so pretty and sweet and photogenic.LegalGirl82 said:Carolina: Increased the average Italian's interest in the Olympics by earning the bronze. The organizing committee is going to love her!
Golden Skate had more views for Rosaleen's reports than for all the other threads put together. And they were quoted and talked about on all the other figure skating sites as well. Rosaleen and Paula rock!Rosaleen's reports. Thank you, thank you, thank you.![]()
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