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Not on this video. The British Eurosport said so, although they did said on the slowmo, Chris, that it looked good to them.
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Not on this video. The British Eurosport said so, although they did said on the slowmo, Chris, that it looked good to them.
Yulia, Eteri and the Dude agree with you . Watch their faces as they stare at the score.
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"Ese es el 'triple flip' que podriamos mirar en camera lenta. A ver si hizo un buen filo en interior... que tiene mis dudas."
Sans accents, that is what the commentator said.
Translation: "This is the 'triple flip' in slow motion. Let's see if she had a good inside edge... I have my doubts."
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You are right. My mistake. I stopped at un buen filo en interior.
In anycase, I'm for ! call and losing 4 point on that it's stupid. Punish the bad technique it ok for me, 4 point it's ridiculous.
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The dude is Sergei Dudakov and for some reason...everyone skates better when he shows up.
Just watched Yulia's program, and I feel so happy for her! I'm glad she's back to doing more difficult combinations, hopefully it means she is getting used to her new boots. Her PCS should have been much higher as well, she's only about 1.66 points ahead than Wagner. Come on now 
In fact, her overall should have been higher than it is. I hope she kills it in the FS 
In fact, her overall should have been higher than it is. I hope she kills it in the FS
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Is this costume for real? https://twitter.com/nim_on_ice/status/542985248758562816
It's beautiful and apparently means tiger in chinese.
It's beautiful and apparently means tiger in chinese.
Is this costume for real? https://twitter.com/nim_on_ice/status/542985248758562816
It's beautiful and apparently means tiger in chinese.
This should be just for training I think? That does mean tiger in Chinese. Yulia was born in the year of tiger based on the Chinese zodiac.
Yes but was is it in Barcelona here? I love that costume.
Pity she can't use it in China.
Maybe in Shanghai!
I guess and I hope the pcs is not high enough because she was the first Russian girl that skated today. And all the other three had some problems with their jumps, two fell and Liza had a turn following Lutz. But in another way, if they all did well would they just easily have higher pcs than Yulia?
Watched her program for some more times and I really think she did pretty well. Hope she did better in FP than in the two GPs!
Watched her program for some more times and I really think she did pretty well. Hope she did better in FP than in the two GPs!
You are right. My mistake. I stopped at un buen filo en interior.
In anycase, I'm for ! call and losing 4 point on that it's stupid. Punish the bad technique it ok for me, 4 point it's ridiculous.
I've actually been all of the edge calls, but I do think 4 points is really harsh. Especially for a non-chronic edge problem. She probably deserves a ! if anything.
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Well it kind of is. You lose much more points than one jump with a step-out or a fall.
I don't know which is the right decision though. Technique it's important, so judges should incorage the right tech, but starting from juniors not wake up when they are seniors.
However, there is never a uniformity in the judging and that doesn't help at all.
On the contrary, it makes coaches and skaters even more confused.
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After rewatching it I still don't understand why she didn't win the SP. Wonderful performance. Better than CoC.
But anyways go my girl! I have faith!
I don't think wrong edges should be as bad/worse than falls. Falls get punished just on GOE while edges get both GOE and BV docked.Well, I think the right technique has it's importance and should be rewarded or punished.
I see nothing wring with having the calls. The GoE's are what they are, see the Pairs.
I also disagree with the e vs. ! distinction--I think the difference in points is too much for mistakes that aren't too different. It also gives too much power to too few people (the tech panel). If you get e, not only do you get the BV docked, but the final GOE has to be negative.
Imo, either punish edges with a BV reduction and leave the GOE up to the judges (positive or negative as they choose), or give an e call, specify the final GOE must be negative, and let the judges decide how negative depending on the severity of the flutz/lip.
/rant over. Sorry, this isn't so much about Yulia as it is about my own personal feelings about the rules.
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But I fully agree with you on that, see above.
That's why I said 4 point it's way too much for a very good jump otherwise.
The jumps are supposed to be landed on one feet also, not on the butt.
Therefore, I will never get how can you lose so much for a wrong, or iffy, edge and not for a butt landing jump.
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But since she got e, the judges have no choice but to give her -GOE. Hence why I have a problem with the rules themselves.But I fully agree with you on that, see above.
That's why I said 4 point it's way too much for a very good jump otherwise.
Now, those two judges shouldn't have given her -3... but in the past we've seen plenty of perfectly nice jumps with UR/edge calls getting horrible GOE. It's nothing new. I think it's ingrained in the judges that edge/UR = bad GOE. Needs to be changed, imo.
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Really liked Julia's performance! It was probably my favourite skate of the night 
However, I don't think edge calls should be less severe. Would you want to see someone try to do the Lutz even if they can't, and yet they still do it anyway because they aren't punished severely enough for them to consider taking the jump out of the program? I think the rules are fair, though perhaps more points should be deducted for a fall.
However, I don't think edge calls should be less severe. Would you want to see someone try to do the Lutz even if they can't, and yet they still do it anyway because they aren't punished severely enough for them to consider taking the jump out of the program? I think the rules are fair, though perhaps more points should be deducted for a fall.
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I think e calls deserve negative GOE but deduction in BV is just too much. :disapp: I'd rather that all the edge calls get -3 GOE alone while falls get -3 GOE with -1 deduction and deduction in PCS. That would be fairer IMO.
Still don't get the point of losing points in BV because of e calls.
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Really liked Julia's performance! It was probably my favourite skate of the night
However, I don't think edge calls should be less severe. Would you want to see someone try to do the Lutz even if they can't, and yet they still do it anyway because they aren't punished severely enough for them to consider taking the jump out of the program? I think the rules are fair, though perhaps more points should be deducted for a fall.
Exactly. You want to ding an edge call 4pts then cool. But falls should be at least 2pts more severe. Not only that...step outs should also be subject to the same thing. 4pts. It's clear that the landing edge is violated or sloppy at best in a step out too right.
I'm all for fairness and proportionality.
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