Yulia Lipnitskaya

[tulosai]

Tara Lapinski said she spoke with Eteri and that's what she said

How did they speak, given the language barrier?

 

[moviebuff]

How did they speak, given the language barrier?

Eteri is fluent in english. But to me, it just seems out of character for Eteri to share inner-group skater-conflict like this opening and willingly (if it is true).

 

[tulosai]

Eteri is fluent in english. But to me, it just seems out of character for Eteri to share inner-group skater-conflict like this opening and willingly (if it is true).

Oh I did not know that, very cool!!

 

[Alba]

You do not teach someone how to swim by pushing him into the deep water. That can go badly wrong.

I'm not sure I get this. Who's pushing her into the deep water? I'm saying that she's young and like all young people she will learn how to get through difficulties and you can only learn that by experience and going through it. It's true for all human beings. Nobody can teach you how to do it no matter how much they may try. She is in a phase where she's discovering herself and growing up. Other girls have gone through this. It's not a tragedy although they might think that at the moment, like young people usually do. It's perfectly normal.

Yulia will somehow get through this, the question is if she can remain a competitive figure skater afterwards.

If she can't, peace. At least she would've tried. Not trying is the only thing she should regret, if that happens. Right now she is and for me that's the right path.

On a lighter note, did anyone here what Eteri had to say about Yulia and Evgenia? They NEVER talk and Yulia refuses to skate on the same ice as Evgenia, but when they are forced to Yulia "makes a lot of faces"

I'm surprised that a coach would say that publicly. If Eteri really said this, and I'm struggling to believe it actually, I would ditch her right away. Just for that.

 

[moviebuff]

If she can't, peace. At least she would've tried. Not trying is the only thing she should regret, if that happens. Right now she is and for me that's the right path.

^THIS

It is all to easy to call it quits after a 'high', or bail at the first signs of struggle, but it takes incredible determination, character and bravery to pick yourself up and continue despite of all the chaos and negativity.

 

[Yamita]

Eteri is fluent in english. But to me, it just seems out of character for Eteri to share inner-group skater-conflict like this opening and willingly (if it is true).

:yes:

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

I'd like to see Julia in Michigan all of the time :yes: It could open a whole new world for her in so many ways and give her a nice breath of fresh air. I think it would be so good for her to get away and re-identify herself.

Either that or it's time to go to CSKA

Sorry Eteri and I have no Ill will but she looks checked out to me

 

[Imagine]

Love Yulia + Eteri but I think it's time for a fresh start with respect to coaching. It will be tough for someone with Yulia's character to face such a change seeing as Eteri is basically like her second mom, but some new perspective could help her to develop further. Eteri is obviously talented at what she does, and will see much success with Evgenia and Polina in the years to come, but as far as Yulia goes...I think she's already tried her best.

Also, kind of unrelated but it's interesting how all that hate Yulia used to get has been so glaringly shifted onto Evgenia...I guess the victim will change around but the bullies will be as nasty as ever. Evgenia deserves her moment too, and did beautifully imo.

 

[boybelow]

I believe Yulia can still bounce back. Maybe she needs to join a lot of competitions like Tuk did to regain her confidence.

 

[Spiral]

I've seen Yulia's SP today and thought it was marvelous. I loved it before, but I've enjoyed this skate the best. I kept thinking that the "can't help falling in love" lines suit her wonderfully, as far as the fs fans are concerned. She's indeed unique even in the top fs field. You watch her, and everything else ceases to exist. She's so authentic in everything she does, be it romantic, playful or tragic and poignant. She reminds me of Dorian Grey's fiancee in this respect (when he first met her) - not that she looks lik I imagine that character to look like, but she has that quality of living in her programs to tally and completely. I agree that it would be interesting for her to work with different choreographers, but to me personally it's not the choreography, but what she puts into her programs that makes them so fascinating.

I must admit I don't understand why so many people think it would be a good idea for her to change coaches. I didn't watch K&C, but Tutberidze has always supported her through thick and thin. Last year she even spoke out against her fed's anounced decision to put Sotnikova on the team without her competing at Nationals and endured a horrible backlash as a result. I've even read a blogger who was at Russian Nationals in Sochi saying that nobody spoke to her there. Apparently the other coaches didn't want to be seen associating with her by the officials.

I have been prepared. I was sure in the summer that she will have another difficult year and after all this is the "right" season for that. Still it hurts though. I hope she will stay focused and determined. Bad times will pass.

I've been thinking exactly same thing. It was clear to me in the summer that the changes weren't over yet, and, of course, she can't keep adjusting on the fly, while her body keeps constantly changing. But on the positive side, at least she hasn't grown so tall as to be unable to do triples (as happens to some female skaters). I think she'll probably still grow a bit, but at 17 her major growth spurt is, in all probability, behind her. (I've also heard of some top skaters growing taller after leaving the sport, as adults, but that's another story.) The other very important thing is that she is obviously very engaged with her skating, despite all the difficulties, and keeps making and delivering mesmerizing programs, and looks upbeat in general. I don't know what impresses me more: her skating or her diamond will. And that leads to the third good thing: even when her technique is not at its best, she's still somebody everybody wants to watch (and often more than anyone else); so even if she doesn't attain her previous form (although I think she will, once her body stops changing), she won't have to give up skating: she'll have show tour invitations for as long as she chooses to skate.

The american commentators sucks in this event.

Because they talk too much, or because they're chauvinistic? If the latter, do you know who they are?

I think there's some truth in that, it seems pretty clear to me right at start, Evgenia is the one they will put their support from the get go.

Do they believe she'll stay 16 forever?

Also, kind of unrelated but it's interesting how all that hate Yulia used to get has been so glaringly shifted onto Evgenia...I guess the victim will change around but the bullies will be as nasty as ever. Evgenia deserves her moment too, and did beautifully imo.

Of course! I'm very sorry indeed to hear that. I hope it's not at this forum?

 

[andy08]

Just watched eurosport brit and what sensitive comments they had for her situation .... They are really wonderful.... As always

 

[sajoya]

It's rather strange, I've only known Yulia since the Sochi olympics and yet it feels like I've known her forever for me to be so worked up over her performance It just hurts too much to see her holding back the disappointment and hiding it with a smile. I hope Yulia doesn't take it too hard and doubt her skating career. I still believe in her. I know that fighting spirit she once had still exists within her. All she has to do is step into the rink with confidence and let it out. Come on, Yulia! You can do it, I know you can

 

[moviebuff]

Just watched eurosport brit and what sensitive comments they had for her situation .... They are really wonderful.... As always

That's nice to hear. B.ESP are probably the most professional/tolerable in regards to english commentary. I generally watch the Spanish or Japanese coverage, since I literally cannot stand the majority of english broadcasted commentary, especially if the commentators are talking over the music and throughout the entire performance...It's the equivalent of watching a film or a ballet, and having a film or dance critic blabbering on loudly and incessantly within your hearing range throughout the entire show.

Anyways, I've rewatched her LP a couple of times now, and even though she looked really nervous before the start of the program, I'm really quite impressed with how musical her performance was this time around. Her movements were well timed, hitting some of the 'moments', she didn't break character despite the popped lutz, and performed the step sequence with more attack than I've seen her do in a LP in a long time (well since SL to be exact). Despite the lack of confidence with the jumps, I do think she is making progress (especially with the Leningrad program), and will get there eventually.

BTW I notice there was tape on the side of her legs, beneath both her knees...I really hope she's not hurt or injured.

 

[lionello]

Hi-my-friends!Im-here,in-Milwaukee!And-my-space-in-borken...Are-you-see-our-banner-on-Arena?Maybe-anybody-make-photo-with-him?send-me-please!And-how-we-may-meeting-here?

 

[plushyfan]

How did they speak, given the language barrier?

Eteri lived in US.

 

[borzaya]

http://fsrussia.ru/news/1339-yuliya...ran-pri-budu-chuvstvovat-sebya-uverennee.html

A small interview of Yulia:

- You were getting ready to this GP event in the USA. How was this work going?
- Good. The training conditions were totally different. I was more ready for this event than to Finlandia Trophy. But still there is some lack of confidence. I was ready for this start, concentrated, but still - there was a popped jump, I was doubtful at both flips... The only things that I can be satisfied about are the salchow, the 2A and the toe at the end of the program, and that I didn't fall.

- It seemed to me that you looked more confident in your SP in Milwakee than in Finland, is it true?
- The SP is more polished (than LP). But here, for some reason, I felt less confidence than in Finland... I hope that I cope with these problems during this season... I have such a lack of trust in myself at present. I can't trust my movements, because I'm changing all the time. But I have to cope with that throughout the season.

- But you cope with it at practices, don't you?
- It can't be compared with what was in the off-season. At that time I was already doing the combination of two triples. But at the beginning of the season it was so hard to get into shape. Almost a month was lost because of different illnesses - an injury, than a pinched nerve, I couldn't even raise my right leg for some time... Then I began to skate again, to work, and now I'm still working trying to improve, to catch up...

- Are you going to Moscow after this event?
- Yes, I will continue training at home. I'm going to fight. I think that at the next GP event I'll feel more confident, because the elements that didn't go well here, that was mostly because of lack of confidence.

 

[Alba]

Hi-my-friends!Im-here,in-Milwaukee!And-my-space-in-borken...Are-you-see-our-banner-on-Arena?Maybe-anybody-make-photo-with-him?send-me-please!And-how-we-may-meeting-here?

sabinfire did see you and he posted a picture of your banner.

Snapped a pic of the Yulia banner at SkAm!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSGwTUEWcAQeWa6?format=pjpg&name=large

 

[Alba]

Thank you so much borzaya for the translation. I like her spirit. You go girl. Lack of confidence can be beaten.

Also, kind of unrelated but it's interesting how all that hate Yulia used to get has been so glaringly shifted onto Evgenia...I guess the victim will change around but the bullies will be as nasty as ever. Evgenia deserves her moment too, and did beautifully imo.

Obviously, because she's the winner now. Classical attitude of haters. :disapp:

I love Evegnia's LP and I think she has improved a lot. Deserved victory.

I believe Yulia can still bounce back. Maybe she needs to join a lot of competitions like Tuk did to regain her confidence.

Tuk was 100% ready though.

Because they talk too much, or because they're chauvinistic? If the latter, do you know who they are?

Because in the end they started to talk and making fun about how Yulia and Evgenia don't salute each other or speak during the warm up and according to Tara you can see that Eteri favorites Evgenia. Now, I understand that a tv anchor would find anything to gossip about but coming from Tara is gross because: a) I don't remember american girls been so friendly with each other so that's kind of hypocrisy coming from them; b) who's the skater chatting and saluting during the warm up; c) I don't remember Tara being friendly with Kwan either. :sarcasm:

 

[borzaya]

Concerning SA: though I'm sad about the result and that Yulia is still far from her proper form yet, but I agree that her new programs are looking more and more fascinating, and as it seems to me, she is gaining her confidence back, nevertheless... I was glad to see her smiling after the performance, and that she tries to keep high spirits... :yes:

 

[lionello]

thank-you-but-maybe-anymore-else?Its-so-far...