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Yuri Shevchenko said:
Hi, moviebuff! Yeeesss , I fly to the Russian Nationals!:cheer:
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Have an awesome time! I'm sure the home crowd will cheer extra loud for their home-girl!

geiger said:
Another drawing :)

https://cs7065.vk.me/c7004/v7004703/10d65/AjiaIUaBqCE.jpg
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Omg :jaw:
Her drawing skills are getting better and better. She is very good at capturing the eyes, nose and mouth. I suspect she might be using an ordinary felt-tip pen or even a ballpoint one at that, so it is really quite impressive for a 17 yr old! Better than me when I was 17, so I am both envious and proud at the same time. :laugh: If Yulia wasn't skating at the moment, I would send her off to a fine arts school immediately!
 
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Micha said:
OK, lets judge his comments 5 years later, when she will do well. If they will be negative, I will apologize
I often read his comments in press and he says negative things to other skaters too. Not only about Julia. And I can't remember any statement in which he wasn't right.
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Hi Micha, I will be blunt here. It is not a matter of him playing fortune-teller, or being right or wrong. Many of his comments and the way he has handled their previous relationship in the press feels very.....back-stabbing. When you are made privy to a creative relationship to produce a piece of art/performance/work, you have to respect the process that went on behind-the-scenes regardless of the success of end result or product. YOU DO NOT (in any profession) talk openingly and willing to the press about your former clients or collaborators in a slanderous and/or disrespectful manner. In the real world (outside that of figure skating), any comments to the press about a former client/colleague that borders on the negative will get you sued faster than you can say "allegedly".
 
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Why do we keep talking about Ilya. Can't we just talk about Julia. I'm going to start a "Deep Thoughts With Ilya" thread so we can free ourselves of him and his observations once and for all. Then we'll see if people are interested in his ramblings. Good for him if so.
 
moviebuff said:
ny comments to the press about a former client/colleague that borders on the negative will get you sued faster than you can say "allegedly".
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To sue? Are you serious? Because of the former cooperation, he can't speak about her present skating?
I don't remember him talking negatively about anything, what was between them, when they worked together and when they stopped, how he was refused and so on.
I would like to stop this discussion. It is not fruitfull. You have your point of wiew, I have mine. It could be cultural difference. Maybe someone from Russia could tell us, what they think about his statements towards Julia and other figurskaters.
 
Sam-Skwantch said:
Why do we keep talking about Ilya. Can't we just talk about Julia. I'm going to start a "Deep Thoughts With Ilya" thread so we can free ourselves of him and his observations once and for all. Then we'll see if people are interested in his ramblings. Good for him if so.
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Because it might be the point, where her problems started. So I am thinking about it. And because I think that Eteri is on Iljas side. Just my feelings.
Or it was the individual competition in Sochi. She looked lost on the ice. Frightened.
I do not believe that her problems were caused by body changes. Last season she looked the same.
 
I highly doubt leaving Ilya had anything to do with her condition. One thing is certain though...her artistry has improved tremendously after leaving him. He has nothing to do with teaching jump technique and that's her only issue at this point so what role could he possibly play in fixing it. His programs have been a lot less impressive since SL anyway so I'm not sure what the big deal is. :biggrin:
 
Micha said:
Maybe someone from Russia could tell us, what they think about his statements towards Julia and other figurskaters.
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I'm from Russia and I am sure that his remarks are contrary to the ethics and unprofessional. He can have an opinion and if we forget that he is the choreographer of the rival, he can make through the press, the opinions on the technical aspects. But to say that Julia is insufficiently demanding of himself ... is very ugly. This is good that Zueva has denied it. The majority of users on the Russian forums agree with me. So I don't understand why are we still talking on this topic.
 
Jagger said:
I'm from Russia and I am sure that his remarks are contrary to the ethics and unprofessional. He can have an opinion and if we forget that he is the choreographer of the rival, he can make through the press, the opinions on the technical aspects. But to say that Julia is insufficiently demanding of himself ... is very ugly. This is good that Zueva has denied it. The majority of users on the Russian forums agree with me. So I don't understand why are we still talking on this topic.
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THIS‼️‼️
:points: :points: :cheer: :yay:
 
Micha, you are seriously starting to bother me big time. :rolleye:This is Yulia's fan fest. As I already told you go and start a topic about Ilia Averbukh and you can discuss him to death. :shrug:

@Everybody else, can we PLEASE stop feeding the trolls and provocations?! Leave him/her comment to himself/herself. Maybe will be lucky and get over this once and for all. :hijacked:
 
Hi, my friend and I also plan to go Russian Nationals this year, especially for Yulia since it will be held in her hometown.

I have a silly question about tickets for nationals. How to buy the tickets? Is there a official website or something like that? We don't live in Russia so we want to get our tickets in advance. I could really appreciate it if you might answer it.
 
Sam-Skwantch said:
I highly doubt leaving Ilya had anything to do with her condition. One thing is certain though...her artistry has improved tremendously after leaving him. He has nothing to do with teaching jump technique and that's her only issue at this point so what role could he possibly play in fixing it. His programs have been a lot less impressive since SL anyway so I'm not sure what the big deal is. :biggrin:
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It's amazing, Sam. I was hoping for some improvement, but her performances have been incredible. Marina has shown her how to focus on emotion (not gimmicks), exactly the direction Yulia was ready to take. Also the Mich. coaches are efficient, zero wasted time which has got to appeal to Yulia. She is slower for sure, but the slowness is a product of focus and emphasis on emotion in the music. Little would have been accomplished had she merely slowed down while keeping her previous approach. I expect her to use this spare, motivic approach whenever she skates to what she calls serious music, it's the key. We have much to look forward to. Her approach to interpreting pure music, as in Elvis, is really a continuation of her previous style. She does both styles really well. The other factor different from last year is the music. She has exceptional taste, Leningrad is the smartest composition to date. The piano playing is on the same high level as the composition (the composer is playing his own work). His phrasing is so sensitive, what a fine musician. No, you can't beat your foot to the first 20 seconds, but in this case it is for the best. Outstanding music makes her job much more enjoyable, and ours too. She has far exceeded all my expectations.

Perhaps you or one of the other skating experts can provide some insight into what is going on with the jumps. Why did she fail on the same jump in all three competitions (the jump just before the first spin, fell twice and nearly fell last time)? It's safe to assume they've practiced it to death. Have there been others in the past who jumped well in practice but not competitions? She seems confused by this, certainly I am. Should they address more than just faulty jump technique?
 
sjid said:
Leningrad is a sophisticated composition that will mean different things to different people, even multiple meanings for a single person. It really doesn't matter what the composer intended. What counts for us is Yulia's reaction to the music as revealed in her performance and how it affects each of us (probably differently). When it comes to art, subjectivity is the most important criterion. Most composers avoid attaching meanings using words (to them words are inadequate abstractions), but they are very interested in how the music is performed. Yulia has reached a level where she really does express her feelings through music, so a lot of her message is from a realm beyond words. So too for the music Leningrad.
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I know that most instrumental music is abstract, but in such cases composers don't give their creations specific titles like "Leningrad." I'm not saying that there's anything wrong at all in skaters putting different meaning into the music they skate to than the one the composer had in mind, and it's certainly been done plenty of time before, but I personally am curious what Joseph had in mind when he was creating this music, partly because I find the music itself interesting and partly because I'd like to know if this idea behind the program was Yulia's or Zueva's, or if it went with the music.

Sam-Skwantch said:
Yulia's art on a few occasions seems to feature a very pretty face with turmoil all around it. She's very talented. It must be tough with so many well wishers and so many detractors speaking about her publicly. I wish her the best and pray her creative talents continue to shine bright.
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That's an interesting analysis of Yulia's drawing, but, judging by the fallen leaves around the head, maybe she was just inspired by the windy fall weather? Although it could well be that the turmoil in the streets seems to her to parallel the turmoil that surrounds her, or possibly the turmoil she's feeling - the "it rains in my heart as in rains in the city" case. I so hope not. I hope by now she's used to lots of people speaking about her in public, or that she gains strength from her suupporters and takes her detractors philosophically (What do they know anyway? And the desire to pull someone down says more about them than about her.) I do wish her the same as you. Also that she may find a way to unwind rather than express her troubles creatively. Looking outward is more conductive to a peace of mind than looking inward.

sjid said:
Perhaps you or one of the other skating experts can provide some insight into what is going on with the jumps. Why did she fail on the same jump in all three competitions (the jump just before the first spin, fell twice and nearly fell last time)? It's safe to assume they've practiced it to death. Have there been others in the past who jumped well in practice but not competitions? She seems confused by this, certainly I am. Should they address more than just faulty jump technique?
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I am also confused by this and would be grateful if somebody could explain this. I can understand a skater doing fine in practices and having problems in competitions, if it's a case of nerves getting out of hand, but in case of a physical problem like a changing body, one would think it wouldn't matter much one way or another. I can understand if not being able to rely on instincts and physical memory as she's used to makes her nervous in competitions, but if she does land jumps in practices, then it would seem that she's adjusted to her changed height and figure, no?
 
tara said:
Hi, my friend and I also plan to go Russian Nationals this year, especially for Yulia since it will be held in her hometown.

I have a silly question about tickets for nationals. How to buy the tickets? Is there a official website or something like that? We don't live in Russia so we want to get our tickets in advance. I could really appreciate it if you might answer it.
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Hi!
Ticket sales have not yet begun. Tickets can be bought on the internet and printed out. In the last championship was.
 
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