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Yulia Lipnitskaya

I'm not expecting 100% perfection, i'm okay with 90% :cheer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blOlCtQ4GmY
This is really wonderful. Neither ballet nor skating, just focus on emotion. I suspect one reason she agreed to this invitation was to show us a more mature conception than we saw from a 16 yo. She succeeded with me. Finally we get to see Yulia's SL without the pressures of competition, without the trivia of jumps (Yulia's term) getting in the way.

She adapted her skating technique to this performance. Her feet imitate the notes of the music. Her arms are the emotion, they portray the drama of the music. At about 17 seconds we see arms falling sequentially with inflection of hands. Arms falling happens everywhere, it is the central idea of this performance. Watch beginning at 24 seconds, where the falling arm pulls her body down, and then she rotates across the stage with arms falling in sequence. This repeated gesture reaches a climax at the moment of death (1:57). Repetitions are varied, each repetition reinforces and expands on the feeling that has come before. In this way she pulls us into the depth of her message. Of course this is done with taste and beauty, this is Yulia. She used the gesture of arms falling with inflection of hands once before. In Leningrad it had similar meaning: 0:41 from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-oHQmZlYE It was also in Leningrad that she first used the repetition method to express complex musical drama. If she were to compete with SL again, it would be a very different experience.

How many skaters could succeed with this? Remember all those late night hours in apartment corridors and hotel rooms. Another testimony to Yulia's uniqueness.
 
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According to her Ask, it took her two hours to prepare the dance... AFTER she realized this is not going to be on ice. When they agreed to performance, they had no idea that this would be an off-ice thing. Nobody told them.

Amazing. SL may or may not be in her genes, but it is certainly in her blood. Hopefully she will find another composition she loves as much.
 
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According to her Ask, it took her two hours to prepare the dance... AFTER she realized this is not going to be on ice. When they agreed to performance, they had no idea that this would be an off-ice thing. Nobody told them.

OMG...that is hilarious! What a kerfuffle :laugh2::rofl:

I'm trying to imagine if someone did the equivalent to a ballet dancer....

Organizer: Hey Svetlana, can you please perform Swan Lake again this Sunday night?
Svetlana: Umm....it's been a while.
Organizer: Pleasseeeee, it will be super special and it is for an important event.
Svetlana: Fine, ok. I still fit into Odile's costume....I think.
Organizer: Awesome! See you there. *hangs up*

(2 hours before showtime. Mobile rings)

Organizer: You ready and stretched for the show?
Svetlana: No. I am still in a taxi on my way there. But I've got my costume and pointe shoes with me.
Organizer: Pointe shoes? No no no, we'd have none of that. You'll be performing on ice!
Svetlana: ...
Organizer: Don't worry, we'd figured that you probably don't own a pair of boots. So we brought you a new pair! Fresh and stiff!
Svetlana: *a string of muffled expletives*
Organizer: Awesome! Show starts in 2 hours, don't forget to stretch! *hangs up*
 
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OMG...that is hilarious! What a kerfuffle :laugh2::rofl:

I'm trying to imagine if someone did the equivalent to a ballet dancer....

Svetlana: *a string of muffled expletives*
Organizer: Awesome! Show starts in 2 hours, don't forget to stretch! *hangs up*
I'd love to witness Julia's reaction in that moment. :laugh2:
 
I'd love to witness Julia's reaction in that moment. :laugh2:

Ummm...a more alarmed version of this maybe?

Maybe they were smart and didn't tell her on purpose. :laugh: Who knows...she might've declined earlier had she known.

Anyhow, it is a lovely performance. Her upper body moves like a dream, but her lower body obviously isn't use to off-ice movements. OFF-TOPIC: But one odd thing that I did picked up (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Yulia turning in an anti-clockwise direction when the vast majority of 'right-handed' dancers would be turning in the clockwise direction. I'm guessing this is because she is so use to spinning/jumping on-ice in a certain direction? Never noticed it until now...because it is the exact opposite for most dancers whose a-la-secondes/pirouettes/double-tours would be clockwise.
 
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What kind of doofus invites a figure skater to perform, but fails to inform her that she won't be skating...? :scratch2:

Regardless....glad they did since we got that amazing performance out of it. The dress still fits, wow!

Doofus!! :laugh2:
 
OFF-TOPIC: But one odd thing that I did picked up (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Yulia turning in an anti-clockwise direction when the vast majority of 'right-handed' dancers would be turning in the clockwise direction. I'm guessing this is because she is so use to spinning/jumping on-ice in a certain direction? Never noticed it until now...because it is the exact opposite for most dancers whose a-la-secondes/pirouettes/double-tours would be clockwise.
Wow, really? AFAIK majority of people turn anticlockwise in every sport, didn't know ballet is different.
 
Wow, really? AFAIK majority of people turn anticlockwise in every sport, didn't know ballet is different.

Found a nice article that points out the difference in turn direction between ballet and sports. Someone in the comments section explained the physics of the clockwise vs counter-clockwise thing nicely:

1. CCW rotation provides for an upward angular momentum. This would decrease friction with ice during high rate spins in figure skating. It may also provide that split second additional time in diving. A higher spin rate produces a proportionally higher upward angular momentum. Consequently, the faster you spin the easier it should be to maintain balance.

2. CW rotation provides for a downward angular momentum. This would give dancers a very slightly more secure anchor around their axis of rotation. Since they are not spinning nearly as fast as figure skaters, the additional lift they may get going CCW during their spins may not be outweighed by the slightly additional benefit they get by reinforcing an anchored rotational axis.

Also, ballet dancers 'spot' when they turn, whilst figure skaters do not. Spotting gives dancers more control over their turns (speed and center), but figure skaters spin WAY too fast and erratic to spot, in fact even the slightest counter movement against the spin direction at THAT speed would probably lead to them losing their balance and/or falling out of their spin.

BACK ON-TOPIC: Anyone else excited/terrified for the potential Kill Bill costume? :party2: *starts praying*
 
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I'd love to witness Julia's reaction in that moment. :laugh2:

Frankly it was ridiculous that it happened, not sure where this event was at - I mean if there's not an ice rink nearby I would think someone on her team should have inquired about her 'performance'... Her performance was good considering the circumstances, but her competition season is due to start soon (doesn't she skate a senior B this weekend?) sticking an unprepared, amateur dancer on stage is a risky move in regards to injury.
 
Well, the SL reprise on stage has its limits, but I think it was a great honour to be invited at the event for its meaning ...
 
Ummm...a more alarmed version of this maybe?

Maybe they were smart and didn't tell her on purpose. :laugh: Who knows...she might've declined earlier had she known.

Anyhow, it is a lovely performance. Her upper body moves like a dream, but her lower body obviously isn't use to off-ice movements. OFF-TOPIC: But one odd thing that I did picked up (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Yulia turning in an anti-clockwise direction when the vast majority of 'right-handed' dancers would be turning in the clockwise direction. I'm guessing this is because she is so use to spinning/jumping on-ice in a certain direction? Never noticed it until now...because it is the exact opposite for most dancers whose a-la-secondes/pirouettes/double-tours would be clockwise.



What you just said is entirely true,
she is dancing as if it were left-handed. In ballet we turn both ways but one side is always easier than the other for everyone. Normally the rightist turn in the hourly sense naturally.
 
What about Aleksandrina Degtiareva's costume in todays skate at the Russian Cup? :biggrin:

Oh wow....complete with blood stains and torn fabric :laugh:....and is that a sparking glued/stitched on rhinestone katana I see? :laugh2:

The trick is how to balance all that yellowness with the cold, white vacancy of the ice. If it were up to me, I'd go with a warmer shade of yellow like the one worn in the movie...the one that Degtiareva is wearing is a tad too fluorescent for the ice and under certain lighting conditions and/or camera filters it may come across as a little jarring to the eye. I like what she did with the tights-boots connection (i.e. no half-over-the-boot tights), but I'd ditch the blood stains/torn fabric/bedazzled katana, since the yellow bodysuit is already recognisable enough without needing to going THAT literal with the costuming. Also, the black stripe that runs down the sides should be thicker and uninterrupted (I don't dig that belt-thing) and that will both accentuate any body line as well as counter balance the yellowness of it all.

OMG more people are doing KILL BILL programs.....yaaaaasssss! Gimme Kill Bill over Romeo&Juliet any day of the week! :biggrin:

EDIT: A new picture of Yulia at Nepela Trophy by Mihail Sharov: https://www.instagram.com/p/BK6mzDPD2J7/
 
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Oh wow....complete with blood stains and torn fabric :laugh:....and is that a sparking glued/stitched on rhinestone katana I see? :laugh2:

The trick is how to balance all that yellowness with the cold, white vacancy of the ice. If it were up to me, I'd go with a warmer shade of yellow like the one worn in the movie...the one that Degtiareva is wearing is a tad too fluorescent for the ice and under certain lighting conditions and/or camera filters it may come across as a little jarring to the eye. I like what she did with the tights-boots connection (i.e. no half-over-the-boot tights), but I'd ditch the blood stains/torn fabric/bedazzled katana, since the yellow bodysuit is already recognisable enough without needing to going THAT literal with the costuming. Also, the black stripe that runs down the sides should be thicker and uninterrupted (I don't dig that belt-thing) and that will both accentuate any body line as well as counter balance the yellowness of it all.

OMG more people are doing KILL BILL programs.....yaaaaasssss! Gimme Kill Bill over Romeo&Juliet any day of the week! :biggrin:

EDIT: A new picture of Yulia at Nepela Trophy by Mihail Sharov: https://www.instagram.com/p/BK6mzDPD2J7/


o wow :eeking: :love:
 
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