Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season
- Thread starter GS Forum Staff
- Start date
Good to hear that Orser will go to him :agree: If plan is still to go for NHK I hope he will listen Orser at least once this time and not push quad sal this time around and limit quads in LP
..... the best no quads at all in NHK 
Last edited:
Yuzuru really is a stubborn kid, willing to disregard his health all to please people? No, Yuzuru, just no. To be honest, I feel sorry for Orser. Instead of coaching, it seems more like his job is to babysit now. I wouldn't be surprise if Yuzuru's stubbornness will cause problems between him and Orser in the near future, let alone permanent injuries that could ruined his skating career. I don't want to see another break-up controversy with Orser again. If only Yuzuru wasn't so caught up with trying to please and thank his fans. He should understand that trying to please us is no obligation. He doesn't owe us anything. Just watching him in good health is already enough for us, and I'm sure his Japanese fans would agree with me. All I want is a healthy Yuzuru in the next upcoming seasons, but how can he when he keeps forcing himself with all these ice shows and gets injured in the process? Seriously, is this too much to ask for?
In a way, as cruel as it may sound, I do hope the incident can make him learn a thing or two about setting his priorities straight, and that is health being the most important of all.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
^I don't think there is any problem between Yuzuru and Orser. They seem to have a strong bond, despite the language barrier. Orser seems to care a lot about Yuzuru as well. And to be frankly Yuzuru love training in Canada. He has enough money to go to Canada and train there for the next 4 years. JSF could do nothing to stop him from going to Orser. We all know Yuzuru is very stubborn.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Feb 23, 2014
I bet Orser is going to convice Yuzuru to withdraw from NHK
I doubt it. If he makes Orser fly to Japan- he's going to compete. He's totally crazy.
I bet Javi promised him a huge party in Barselona and Yuzu is going to be an adult then. They are going to have fun. Whist if Yuzu stays in Japan- I bet the party is going to be very modest and practically boring.
I doubt it. If he makes Orser fly to Japan- he's going to compete. He's totally crazy.
I bet Javi promised him a huge party in Barselona and Yuzu is going to be an adult then. They are going to have fun. Whist if Yuzu stays in Japan- I bet the party is going to be very modest and practically boring.
I too think he is not going to force him to withdraw, but to check how he is recovering and talk about possible approach and training for NHK if he will have green light from doctors
1.5 weeks prior to NHK for a training... he can't produce magic or can he?
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2014
I doubt it. If he makes Orser fly to Japan- he's going to compete. He's totally crazy.
I bet Javi promised him a huge party in Barselona and Yuzu is going to be an adult then. They are going to have fun. Whist if Yuzu stays in Japan- I bet the party is going to be very modest and practically boring.
Party with drinks...Yuzu...adult...20years old
Propably some light training and changing programs layout, I don't think even Yuzuru is crazy enough to attempt the same layout if he can't even practice it
......... at least I hope 
or maybe Orser is going to stay in Japan until NHK too and prepare Yuzuru there ? as Javi and Nam will have their GP's already done, we will see :think:
Last edited:
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
We need a prayer circle, please Orser please convince Yuzuru to withdraw.
I can't pray against his will.We need a prayer circle, please Orser please convince Yuzuru to withdraw.
I wish him wisdom.
Thanks everyone for my question about the NUMBER magazine. And little Kanako and Mushroom is so cute! I see that even the female reporter wanted to ship the two, asking about their future together(!), but of course Hanyu-san is always smooth in answering those questions. I am so glad that there is someone he did all these skating with. And she is such a nice girl!
From this incident I think I've learned that Orser's coaching style will not be convincing/telling him to withdraw; he seemed to be the type that says it's the athlete's decision. I think he is going there to learn more about his recovery progress and also because Javi and Nam are done for now.
I hope in future interviews we will be hearing how he spent his days recuperation by playing video games and practicing his monster 4G jumps instead of real jumps.
From this incident I think I've learned that Orser's coaching style will not be convincing/telling him to withdraw; he seemed to be the type that says it's the athlete's decision. I think he is going there to learn more about his recovery progress and also because Javi and Nam are done for now.
I hope in future interviews we will be hearing how he spent his days recuperation by playing video games and practicing his monster 4G jumps instead of real jumps.
- Joined
- Mar 7, 2014
I think his skating skills have somehow improved immensely over the summer despite the crazy busy schedule. Watching him skate now, it's less "sporadic" and "wild" looking and is instead nice and smooth. The way that Patrick would skate. The only thing I wouldn't have liked him to inherit from Patrick however is "inflation" since it continues to worry me in terms of credibility.
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
That is something we have to accept, since he is the OGM now, his PCS will never be too low. FS Judging is reputation judging you know. I have made peace with that. I think Yuzuru knows it very well, that's why he asked Orser "how did I get that?". He is very self-critical of himself. I think that's one of the reasons he is trying to refine his skating skills and raise the jump layout. What I like about him is that he is trying to improve his skating to the level of the scores he receives.
You know what, I have talked with some Japanese fans and they frankly told me, they know scores for FS aren't always truthful, and they know that their skaters have recieved generous scores sometimes (and get screwed by the judges many times), that doesn't matter, they have made peace with that as well. Does that mean they will love their favorites less? No.
I love my favorites not because of their medals, but of their quality and their characters on ice, the scores and placement don't matter.
I think Yuna knows this very well, I am not her fan but what she said after FS at Sochi struck me strongly. Sometimes you skate your heart out, but the scores don't reflect that, sometimes you skate just so so...but the scores are much better than you thought. it doesn't have to be any conspiracy behind that, though. It's the nature of FS and all the judged sports IMO.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Apr 22, 2014
That DOI interview never fails to amuse me. Kanako answered all the easy questions and let Yuzu handle the most difficult one: she just immediately gave up and turned to Yuzu who gladly took charge. Yuzu tried really hard to pull the topic back to the normal track. But I probably wouldn't call his answer "smooth", as considering how eloquent this kid usually is, his way of answering that question is rather clumsy (and Kanako couldn't help giggling at that). But eventually he pulled off, and everybody (including the audience) was relieved.
I also dislike the inflated scores, but that is something completely out of anyone but the judges control, unfortunately :hopelessness: Judging from his reactions, Yuzuru also feels unsettled about the scores he sometimes receives, which is why he says he'll try his hardest to live up to those expectation...I just wish he wasn't so hard on himself :scowl:
One of the things I never wanted to see during Yuzuru's career is people tearing him down for his scores INSTEAD of taking it to the judges and ISU (Actually, it's probably more like haters finally having a reason to lash out against him) I got to admit, I thought Yuzuru didn't deserve those PCS for his LP at the COC, but like what Meoima said, he's bound to have inflated scores now that he is an OGM. Figure skating is a corrupted sport with these judging, and I doubt it'll ever be solved no matter how many rules they change.
(Actually, it's probably more like haters finally having a reason to lash out against him) I got to admit, I thought Yuzuru didn't deserve those PCS for his LP at the COC, but like what Meoima said, he's bound to have inflated scores now that he is an OGM. Figure skating is a corrupted sport with these judging, and I doubt it'll ever be solved no matter how many rules they change.- Joined
- Jan 10, 2014
Apparently Brian did make Yuzuru withdraw from Finlandia and even enlisted the aid of Yuzuru's massage therapist to convince Yuzuru. I hope Brian similarly will put his foot down to stop him from skating at NHK should Yuzuru not sufficiently heal by that time. I am sure Yuzuru's parents will back Brian up if that's the case.
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2014
Better angle of the 3A from the SP (fancam) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efDLK50HiJY 
So sad he fell on the 3A for the first time since 2010 (end of 2009) in the LP
but apparently this is what it takes; and it's nuts that kind of consistency, especially considering his age.
I don't disagree with what people were saying about the LP PCS, as long as they remember the rest of the final group wasn't all that together either (except Nam in TES), and even Misha Zayaked (Chaplin curse strikes again) (without the Zayak he could have been second in the FP). The SP PCS scoring on the other hand, the stuff about 'flawed' SP made me feel suspicious about the usual justification of lower pcs for fall being that it disrupts the program, but he didn't fall, and all the other 3 top guys were also flawed- stepouts, doubles and URs respectively. If other technical mistakes disrupt the program also, then increasing punishment of falls makes it disproportionate to other tech mistakes,; making the difference between falls and other tech mistakes okay as it is now. OT, but that makes me lean more towards PCS should be independent of TES, even though I was previously of the opinion that it shouldn't be, since it's easier to have/focus more on better PCS with easier BV. Fall compulsory deduction should be increased and pcs left alone, unless the skater actually lets the fall affect their performance (again compare Yuzu W14 SP vs W13SP). and Of course this SP performance I still think is not as good even as he showed in the shows even with a fall. Whether how PCS is marked is changed is a different discussion.
So sad he fell on the 3A for the first time since 2010 (end of 2009) in the LP
but apparently this is what it takes; and it's nuts that kind of consistency, especially considering his age.I don't disagree with what people were saying about the LP PCS, as long as they remember the rest of the final group wasn't all that together either (except Nam in TES), and even Misha Zayaked (Chaplin curse strikes again) (without the Zayak he could have been second in the FP). The SP PCS scoring on the other hand, the stuff about 'flawed' SP made me feel suspicious about the usual justification of lower pcs for fall being that it disrupts the program, but he didn't fall, and all the other 3 top guys were also flawed- stepouts, doubles and URs respectively. If other technical mistakes disrupt the program also, then increasing punishment of falls makes it disproportionate to other tech mistakes,; making the difference between falls and other tech mistakes okay as it is now. OT, but that makes me lean more towards PCS should be independent of TES, even though I was previously of the opinion that it shouldn't be, since it's easier to have/focus more on better PCS with easier BV. Fall compulsory deduction should be increased and pcs left alone, unless the skater actually lets the fall affect their performance (again compare Yuzu W14 SP vs W13SP). and Of course this SP performance I still think is not as good even as he showed in the shows even with a fall. Whether how PCS is marked is changed is a different discussion.
Last edited:
Similar threads
