Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season

[giulia95]

I Agee! I think what Hanyu really needs to learn us to say "no" to JSF when they want him to do all those ice shows and commercials. His career, and practice sessions are much more important than the shows. The JSF wants him to win so they should realize that he needs enough time to practice and prepare for the new season. I think all those shows and commercials have burnt Hanyu out. He looked physically tired at the COC and also during both his SP and FS. I pray for him to take things slow rest and regroup. The NHK is two weeks away if he plans on competing he needs to listen to Orser, the doctors, and his mother. His health is more important.

NO way a skater can say NO to JSF unfortunately ...

 

[yhmafan]

Welcome and thanks for that precious gif. First time for me to see that hug between Nanami and Yuzuru. There was a little awkwardness because he's grown taller than her and she has to reach up to him but you can see the closeness of their bond. Yes, I think one thing nice as a Yuzuru fan (specifically a fan auntie) is witnessing his journey from boy into a man. Proud of him as I'm sure Nanami is too. (BTW and pardon my ignorance, what does 百面相 mean?)

And thank you to all those who shared links, updates, and their thoughts on Yuzuru.

Sorry for using kanji

BTW, about meaning of 百面相(hyakumensou）, 百(hyaku)= a hundred　面相(men-sou)＝facial expression, so 百面相　means “all kinds of (comic) faces” ,
but more likely in this case is "various faces" as Becki already mentioning it.

Truthfully, I think that article is just trying to gain the general public's attention by writing something like that; where's the proof? (right?) Hanyu is the center of attention these days, so I guess the random articles follow (but some are useful, just not this one).

I think, You got right.

If something that I can do to add some words about it is, had better not get anything serious from the articles of that website (even the comments).
that is not really trustworthy :disapp:

 

[Sorrento]

Not some good news at all, JSf said they have no responsibility about what happened at CoC, they blame Orser for what happened. I don't know if this is true. My friend told me briefly about the content, can any Japanese poster help me with this: http://zasshi.news.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20141117-00000003-pseven-spo

Now, that is amazing. First of all- this is not news, this is a twisted gossip.

Let's blame those who SHOULD BE BLAMED: JSF for wearing out their OGM with continuos shows and no proper time for rest, traumas healing regime, no proper training time, no proper medical assurance for their athletes participating at top events with no proper medical staff assured ON SET and ISU for not offering a proper educated and expirienced doctor on set fot concussions issues. This is pretty serious.

Let's not point fingers at someone who was hired to help their top athlete to achieve result they crave, okay? If this stir is not going away then I might think of the conspiracy- the top athlete to be left with no proper and quality coaching, resulting in low results, more traumas, etc. Why on earth you endorse your athlete and then put him down?

He is the one who brings so much excitement to this sport. He is the leading star of the entire figure skating on this very moment. Let him do his job properly. Support him in every way you can. Because he is not done, he is a very bright present and the shining future of figure skating.

Ugh, those gossips...

 

[Kalina]

If you had to believe all the articles that came out about Yuzuru's move to Orser... first they said it was his decision to go training abroad and with Orser, and JSF supported the move; then they said that yes, Yuzuru wanted to go train abroad but Orser was his second choice because he wanted to train with Bestemianova and Bobrin; then, Yuzuru absolutely did not want to move out of Japan, it was all orchestrated by JSF and poor Yuzuru, victim of the events, cried his heart out every day because of it; and now this

My suggestion is to take everything that you read with a grain of salt, especially if the article quotes some mysterious "authorized person in the skating world"

 

[Interspectator]

If you had to believe all the articles that came out about Yuzuru's move to Orser... first they said it was his decision to go training abroad and with Orser, and JSF supported the move; then they said that yes, Yuzuru wanted to go train abroad but Orser was his second choice because he wanted to train with Bestemianova and Bobrin; then, Yuzuru absolutely did not want to move out of Japan, it was all orchestrated by JSF and poor Yuzuru, victim of the events, cried his heart out every day because of it; and now this

My suggestion is to take everything that you read with a grain of salt, especially if the article quotes some mysterious "authorized person in the skating world"

:thumbsup: I have a bucket full of salt on hand.
Go Yuzu.

 

[YesWay]

The question is more like: "Why was there no Japanese doctor there for their Japanese skaters?" I'm pretty sure JSF can afford it. With the many success of their skaters and the sold-out shows throughout this year, I think it's safe to say they're one of the most richest skating federations out there right now.

Imagine if the JSF did hire and pay for a doctor to accompany skaters to competitions... Would that doctor put the skater's interests first? Or would they put their JSF paymaster's interests first?!

Not all countries have such rich federations as Japan etc - so maybe some could not afford to send a doctor? That would seem unfair.

Are there legal barriers to doctors from one country "practicing" in other countries..?

I kind of think the ISU should be responsible for providing doctors at their own events, not the individual federations. There could be language problems though...

 

[dasani]

Hey guys, I know we are all very concern about Yuzu right now. But perhaps we don't have to get panic over every "news article" or rumor on internet where we don't know if they are based on any reliable source at all. Our discussion here based on unreliable sources might create further rumors to spread around and make even more fans worried (especially those who don't know Japanese and are relying solely on the English community to get news for Yuzu).

I know I don't speak out a lot on this board and perhaps it is not my place to voice such opinion. I do apologize if you find this message inappropriate.

 

[ngml]

For those interested...it seems that Worlds ticket sale has started

http://www.eaticket.com/ticket/71029625d9350f1fe3ce

 

[Sorrento]

Not all countries have such rich federations as Japan etc - so maybe some could not afford to send a doctor? That would seem unfair.

And yet USA sent a doctor with their team and not Japan did not. Was it for money reason? No. ISU should provide proper medical assistance to every event. If the countries federations provide doctors too- language knowledge should also be counted. I mean- guys, most of us learn and speak and use two- three languages due to our work requirements, how come doctors do not have this knowledge? Sounds absurd.

 

[Sorrento]

Hey guys, I know we are all very concern about Yuzu right now. But perhaps we don't have to get panic over every "news article" or rumor on internet where we don't know if they are based on any reliable source at all. Our discussion here based on unreliable sources might create further rumors to spread around and make even more fans worried (especially those who don't know Japanese and are relying solely on the English community to get news for Yuzu).

I know I don't speak out a lot on this board and perhaps it is not my place to voice such opinion. I do apologize if you find this message inappropriate.

I believe anyone could share their viewpoint whether they post a lot or not.
I think it would have been really helpful if our Japanese speaking members would come and comment on these kind of rumor/ gossip stories that are quoted here from time to time simply saying: guys, this source is about this and this and that, therefore I would not recommend to fully trust it. We know that these facts are wrong so lets not waste our time on it.
Because I really envy you, you get to hear or see the local news telling something valuable about Yuzuru and if those sources are reliable- you bring it here and we appreciate that a ton! But when it comes to these little rumor- I'd feel relieved if I knew I could count on those who know if this source is solid or not. So- don't be silent- come and talk.

 

[cheerknithanson]

Hey guys, I know we are all very concern about Yuzu right now. But perhaps we don't have to get panic over every "news article" or rumor on internet where we don't know if they are based on any reliable source at all. Our discussion here based on unreliable sources might create further rumors to spread around and make even more fans worried (especially those who don't know Japanese and are relying solely on the English community to get news for Yuzu).

I know I don't speak out a lot on this board and perhaps it is not my place to voice such opinion. I do apologize if you find this message inappropriate.

I agree. We should look for extreme reliable sources so we won't get false hope or more extreme anxiety.

Source checking is always good.

 

[Interspectator]

I believe anyone could share their viewpoint whether they post a lot or not.
I think it would have been really helpful if our Japanese speaking members would come and comment on these kind of rumor/ gossip stories that are quoted here from time to time simply saying: guys, this sourse is about this and this and that, therefore I would not recommend to fully trust it. We know that these facts are wrong so lets not waste our time on it.
Because I really envy you, you get to hear or see the local news telling something valuable about Yuzuru and if those sourses are reliable- you bring it here and we appreciate that a ton! But when it comes to these little rumor- I'd feel relieved if I knew I could count on those who know if this sourse is solid or not. So- don't be silent- come and talk.

Yes, well it may take some time, but if you post a link on this thread and ask for someone who can read Japanese to verify its source, I and the other Japanese-speakers can take a look.
I agree, that we shouldn't jump on any news story and take it as the truth.

 

[Sorrento]

Yes, well it may take some time, but if you post a link on this thread and ask for someone who can read Japanese to verify its source, I and the other Japanese-speakers can take a look.
I agree, that we shouldn't jump on any news story and take it as the truth.

Thank you.

 

[Pamigena]

I know I don't speak out a lot on this board and perhaps it is not my place to voice such opinion. I do apologize if you find this message inappropriate.

Opinions are not tied to post numbers as long as we're all polite, every post is appreciated.

I think it would have been really helpful if our Japanese speaking members would come and comment on these kind of rumor/ gossip stories that are quoted here from time to time simply saying: guys, this source is about this and this and that, therefore I would not recommend to fully trust it. We know that these facts are wrong so lets not waste our time on it

They do that all the time, don't they? Maybe not right away on every single thing, but frequently.
(I usually try to add these kinds of comments when I copy all that stuff to the media thread, precisely because it helps to prevent stupid rumors.)

I mean- guys, most of us learn and speak and use two- three languages due to our work requirements, how come doctors do not have this knowledge? Sounds absurd.

I guess it depends on whether you define "language problem" as a problem to communicate with the injured party in a direct and unambiguous way. Doctor's might have the necessary language skills, but the skaters might not. There are a lot of really young people in this sport, you can't expect everybody to have super duper English speaking skills by age 10. (I know this almost 20 year old guy who still has some difficulties but I can't think of the name at the moment) But I agree with you, within the team there should still be more than one adult who can translate.

 

[Maria Victoria]

And yet USA sent a doctor with their team and not Japan did not. Was it for money reason? No. ISU should provide proper medical assistance to every event. If the countries federations provide doctors too- language knowledge should also be counted. I mean- guys, most of us learn and speak and use two- three languages due to our work requirements, how come doctors do not have this knowledge? Sounds absurd.

I agree the ISU should provide doctors to every event, and if a country federation can afford to bring its own doctor, all the better. I also tend to think any self-respecting doctor will put the welfare of his or her patient first or risk losing professional
credibility including the license to practice medicine. And as ISU has "international" in its name it should have translators on hand to deal with language problems.

@dasani, you have the right to voice your opinion here. I think the forum has actually served as a sieve to separate fact from fiction on what has been written about Yuzuru. If nothing else, the recent discussion serves as a reminder not to believe something just because it saw print. We should check out both the story and as has been pointed out, also the source.

 

[echotpe]

Actually, every organizer of Grand Prix event has set up their medical room with doctors stand by. But Team Japan (Orser included) asked the team doctor of America and Canada for help, while Han Yan was treated by Chinese doctor. So it might be a kind of "trust or distrust" issue, rather than there is an event doctor or not.

Anyway, JSF ever mentioned that they will consider to assign a team doctor in GPF, because there are many skaters (elite skaters) will attend including seniors and juniors. So let's see what they can really react from this accident.

 

[alia jackson]

Someone stich together the whole program....it is beautiful

I his looks and softness when he "removed" the mask at 1:57

Help! I cannot stop watching this and listening to Yuzu FS version POTO music

 

[Sorrento]

Help! I cannot stop watching this and listening to Yuzu FS version POTO music

Am I the only one who watches the actual performance with falls- yes, but I love that program so much already that I don't care? I might have been crazy...

 

[Sorrento]

Actually, every organizer of Grand Prix event has set up their medical room with doctors stand by. But Team Japan (Orser included) asked the team doctor of America and Canada for help, while Han Yan was treated by Chinese doctor. So it might be a kind of "trust or distrust" issue, rather than there is an event doctor or not.

Anyway, JSF ever mentioned that they will consider to assign a team doctor in GPF, because there are many skaters (elite skaters) will attend including seniors and juniors. So let's see what they can really react from this accident.

The only question still remains- those doctors- do they have enough knowledge in concussions- because that was crucial in this collision. Other kind of traumatism is usually more distinct to justify whether an athlete would be able to perform without great danger to his life or not. In case of head traumas it is far more complicated. I undestand that athletes would do their best to go out there and skate- because their entire life is dedicated to this sport, especially the top ones, but the questions is: do they have to put their life in question, the quality life. This is what ISU should ask themselves and this is where they should be responsible.

 

[alia jackson]

Am I the only one who watches the actual performance with falls- yes, but I love that program so much already that I don't care? I might have been crazy...

the only part of actual performance I keep watching is the last fall with my hand over my eyes just to listen to the audience and the Brit commentator cheering him on, and then watch all the way to the end to see all the audience on their feet and poohs flying to the ice. This boy makes us do crazy things