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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season

I can try download/record the videos on the link you've given~ and see what I can do :D

That would be great actually ! This is so much better to read the subs while watching the video :)

Hi, also my first time posting on the thread despite checking in everyday since sometime this summer :)

I translated the Sochi FS by the French-Canadian commentaters! (Thank you Terrapin, I had no idea Radio-Canada covered the event! :dance:)

[1:40-1:42] We ask of them so much ((unclear…???))

-difficult, with the 2T. Put it in there. ((sounds odd but not sure how to translate “mets-y là-dedans”))

[3:11-3:13] First in the short program.

[3:39-3:42] ((unclear????))

[3:57-4:11] And it looks like it’s a ((??)), and an imploration …to the god…to the god of figure skating to tell him “give me the chance, give me the chance to still have the energy to keep going until the end.”

[4:52-4:56] You can see… he is on the floor, ((unclear???))

[7:42-7:50] So here as well you’ll understand that…((??))... They’re taking their time to analyze everything.

I had no idea either RadioCanada had covered the event before I stumbled on this by chance. I hadn’t seen it on any thread so I thought it woudl be nice to share it.

Just a few precisons with the parts that had you confused :

[1:40-1:42] We ask of them so much ((unclear…???))
>>> « On leur demande tellement de choses » : Your translation is fine here.

-difficult, with the 2T. Put it in there. ((sounds odd but not sure how to translate “mets-y là-dedans”))
>>> He doesn’t say « mets-y là-dedans » but « mais il a tenu » : 'But he held on to it’

[3:11-3:13] First in the short program.
>>> He doesn’t say this but « trois minutes de programme écoulées » : ’We are three minutes into the programme’

[3:39-3:42] ((unclear????))
>>> He says « Voyez, petits pas, plus d’amplitude » : ’See how he skates cautiously (literally ’with small steps’), how there is not as much ice coverage than usual’

[3:57-4:11] And it looks like it’s a ((??)), and an imploration …to the god…to the god of figure skating to tell him “give me the chance, give me the chance to still have the energy to keep going until the end.”
>>> I must say, here it is unclear for me too. I hear « Et on dirait que cette fente est une imploration… » : ‘And it is as if this split (??) were an imploration…’ (maybe it is some weird Canadian slang I don’t know about ^^)

[4:52-4:56] You can see… he is on the floor, ((unclear???))
>>>He says : « Il est à terre, au propre comme au figuré » : ’He is down, both literally and figuratively’ (referring to his ending pose)

[7:42-7:50] So here as well you’ll understand that…((??))... They’re taking their time to analyze everything
>>> He says : « Alors là aussi vous comprendrez l’enjeu, on prendra bien son temps pour analyser tout cela » : ’Here as well, given what is at stake judges will take great care in analysing... ‘

Sorry if I’m being a pain in the *** but I thought this might help ^^ Otherwise you did a great job :)
 
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If you ever need other translations from French videos just give me a shout. I might not do it right away because of lack of time but I'll get to it at some point. It helps me work on my translating skills anyway!

Thank you for your translations and to everybody else who is translating things for us. :bow:

... and I might take you up on your offer :biggrin:
I´ve always wondered what where these commentators saying ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBsmW42DX0
 
Cool game :laugh: for me:
1. Amino vital
2. Love in action
3. Monster Hunter
4. Ghana chocolate
5. Xylitol white :hopelessness:
Ps: I also vote for an earphone commercial ^^

The only big money in earphones is Beats, I don´t think they would look to figure skating. Nike OTH... ;)
 
Thanks for the translation, chumelon! I wonder what the French-Canadian commentators had to say about Patrick Chan's free skate?
 
I was at the FS practice session on the day of the FS for GPF last month, and iirc Yuzu did not manage a 4S only until his music started (mostly popping into a 2S). So I would have to say his 4S is still rather inconsistent at this point in time.

Edit: His 4T was quite inconsistent as well. Watching back my videos on his attempts for 4T & 4S: 4T ok, 1T, 2T, 4T really forward; 1S, 2S, 2S, 4S step-out, 2S.
So I was really surprised that his run-through went so well, and better even, the actual skate :)
Thank you for the info. At Sochi he did extremely well in practice (but messed up in actual skate, lol). I think this is a good side, that he didn't push himself so hard in practice. If you mess up, rather mess it up in practice. After all, practice is practice, what matters is you need to bring it out in the actual skate. Still, it seems he lacked practice a lot due to injuries. :cry:

Anyways, according to this news: http://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/contents/information/2015/01/19/post_83/
Yuzuru will appear on a VTR for the Big Sports Award in the end of this month. I guess he will not be there but they will show a clip of him saying thank you (???). I hope Japanese poster will help me with this. Maybe he's already on his way to Toronto already.
 
Sorry if I’m being a pain in the *** but I thought this might help ^^ Otherwise you did a great job

Don't worry! I was actually completely at a loss for some parts because no matter how many times I would listen to what they said I couldn't make the words out and it just sounded like gibberish at some point :laugh2: And thank you! It's actually my first time translating anything at all :o:

Also, Geo1 and cruzceleste: here's Patrick's fs! http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?35721-Patrick-Chan&p=1072992&viewfull=1#post1072992

Thank you for your translations and to everybody else who is translating things for us. :bow:

... and I might take you up on your offer :biggrin:
I´ve always wondered what where these commentators saying ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBsmW42DX0

Here you go ^^ I hope you won't mind Terrapin, I was bored so I decided to translate this as well :slink: Please feel free to read over and add corrections!

[0:04]Now, Yuzuru Hanyu, the other Japanese.
[0:09]4th at CoC and winner in Moscow.
[0:17] You know, at CoC he had a few mishaps, the young boy.
[0:21]The free skate/long program.
Yes, he missed out on the long.
He is currently in 4rth place, skating to the soundtrack of Romeo and Juliet.
[0:30] It’s Craig Armstrong’s version.
[0:44] Technically, he’s solid, but it’s in the interpretation, again, and the components that he’s a little…
Like a junior?
Yes, a little like a junior.
[1:01]He seems to likes it, doesn’t he? That arm movement.
[1:05]He seems to like what?
He has an arm movement, you’ll see, count the number of times that he’ll do it. It’s quite impressive, that upward arm movement.
[1:14] Beautiful quad to open.
[1:21]There, that’s already three, four (counting the arm movements).
[1:31]A 3A, without fault (literal: something of purity).
[2:14]Five.
[2:20]Six.
[2:28]Wow…
[2:33]It’s always very beautiful, jumps like those with the arms above the head.
Yes, it’s not very very difficult
[2:36] It seems like it’s not very difficult, but only very few do it.
[2:40]With a triple at the back would have been better.
[3:06]Seven.
[3:13]And this one, you don’t count it.
No, I don’t count it, it’s only half done.
[3:17] Oh, he’s missing an arm?
[3:35]Come on, seven and a half.
Ah yes, I’ll stop.
[3:39] Yes, he’s solid, isn’t he, tactically? He would [be], wouldn’t he?
[3:45]Junior world champion in 2010.
[5:30] In any case, he gave it his best in this program, Yuzuru Hanyu.
[5:36] He gave it his maximum, he didn’t save up, he gave it his all and he’ll make it out of the final not too badly.
[5:43]Yes, that score x2
[5:45]he has clean technique. ((something about that last 3S??))
[5:48]We talked about it last time, his problems with his physical condition. We insisted on it, it was ((??)) enough, given his morphology.
[5:56]And we have the explanation; actually, it would be asthma problems. It’s probably linked with those.
[6:01]But, still, there is still content, content at the opening and middle of the program.
[6:07]It’s quite dense, technically. But when we look at this program, I don’t know what you think, Philippe, but I- There’s a certain standardization between the men and women.
[6:16]It’s not a “feminine” program, but we almost have the same programs, if we think back at Tuktamysheva earlier, it’s longer with the men, but…
[6:31]Yes, I’m thinking of Yuna Kim.
[6:33] In any case, looking at this boy- yes- it’s…. we can see the same thing, finally, in the men and boys. Some sort of standardization in the programs, in the morphology/forms/format (?).
[6:41]The principle goes like this; the first structure goes quad, 3A, Triple-triple. Either 3A with a triple or 3A then triple-triple. And a Spin, a first step sequence, then a second 3A, followed by a 3lz-3t or a 3f-3t with a 3lo
[7:05]And we finish, usually with a salchow… and a 2A. So we find those with a second step [sequence] inserted in there. And this, in practically every program.
[7:15]Yes, but it’s not on that that I wanted to-
[7:16]Yes I understood , I understood, but on the other hand, it should be said that Hanyu is certainly already very mature on the technical level. And we’ll see it, notably the 4T.
[7:29]But, he’s still a skater that seems like a junior, if not like a novice, when it comes to gestures. It’s quite poor.
[7:38] It would be important for this boy that has potential to podium at the [Olympic] Games to take up some dance.
[7:45]But, actually he doesn’t have an assigned choreographer, it’s his coach that takes care of it and it’s certainly a problem
[7:53]While it’s true that sometimes there are coaches who are also great choreographers, but when we work with the same coach/choreographer, we have difficulty getting out of our comfort zone. Which is why it’s good most of the time to see… to have an outside point of view.
[8:07]Listen to his result, he (??) of his performance, Hanyu.
[8:21] Yes, 166.49, it’s a little less bad than Takahashi, but it’s better in the technical score, evidently it’s not as good as Takahashi in the component score. And so he is second, in total scores. Maybe a podium, we’ll see.
 
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Don't worry! I was actually completely at a loss for some parts because no matter how many times I would listen to what they said I couldn't make the words out and it just sounded like gibberish at some point :laugh2: And thank you! It's actually my first time translating anything at all :o:

Thank you for taking the time to translate!

Oh, I was at the Kinokuniya in NYC and in my hurriedness I couldn't find the exact corner where they had Yuzuru's books and I was too embarrassed to ask the store keepers, but I did manage to snag the photobook (top right) that included a very lovely poster.
 
Don't worry! I was actually completely at a loss for some parts because no matter how many times I would listen to what they said I couldn't make the words out and it just sounded like gibberish at some point :laugh2: And thank you! It's actually my first time translating anything at all :o:

Also, Geo1 and cruzceleste: here's Patrick's fs! http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?35721-Patrick-Chan&p=1072992&viewfull=1#post1072992



Here you go ^^ I hope you won't mind Terrapin, I was bored so I decided to translate this as well :slink: Please feel free to read over and add corrections!

Haha, thanks for this. I see that we've finally found some commentators that do not seem to like Hanyu very much. Well, a variety of tastes is good for the world. But I can't agree with them about their views on Hanyu's 2012 choreography. It was one of the best put together programs of that year...or ever.
 
Haha, thanks for this. I see that we've finally found some commentators that do not seem to like Hanyu very much. Well, a variety of tastes is good for the world. But I can't agree with them about their views on Hanyu's 2012 choreography. It was one of the best put together programs of that year...or ever.
I agree with you. Yuzuru's free skate in 2012 was a masterpiece in term of choreography. They don't have to like Yuzuru, but I don't get the criticism towards that program.
 
^ thanks chumelon for the translations and for your hard work! :)
Wow....what they said was a bit.... harsh? if not like a novice(?)", i mean did they actually considered his gestures as one? I thought that was a bit much and why mention kim though? I dont get it :scratch:
and abe did ask for an outside point of view, from bestemianova and bobrin :)




Btw, are they the same commentators from this 2012 lp worlds video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC_lYMOcTfQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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Don't worry! I was actually completely at a loss for some parts because no matter how many times I would listen to what they said I couldn't make the words out and it just sounded like gibberish at some point :laugh2: And thank you! It's actually my first time translating anything at all :o:

Also, Geo1 and cruzceleste: here's Patrick's fs! http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?35721-Patrick-Chan&p=1072992&viewfull=1#post1072992



Here you go ^^ I hope you won't mind Terrapin, I was bored so I decided to translate this as well :slink: Please feel free to read over and add corrections!

No I don't mind at all ^^ Actually I had decided to wait until I have more time but going over some parts you didn't catch up doesn't take that much time (team work is always better ;))

So here are the parts you said where unclear to you. I think the rest of your translation is fine :)

Hanyu's GPF FS:

5 :45 : "Il y a du contenu technique, une petite erreur à la fin sur le tripe salchow"
>>> It’s quite loaded on the technical side, just a little mistake at the end on the 3S.

5 :48 : "C’était assez paradoxal étant donné sa morphologie"
>>> Which is quite paradoxal given his morphology.

8 :07 : "En tout cas ils sont contents, il est heureux de sa prestation"
>>> In any case they seem to be satisfied, he is happy with his performance here.

Chan's FS in Sochi:

1 :25 : "une bataille terrible"
>>> It’s a terrible battle

1:35: "Ce que ces jeunes gens ont à subir est terrible"
>>> What these young people have to go through is so hard.

2:19 "Quand il bouge ainsi il vole comme un oiseau au-dessus de la glace"
>>> When he moves like that he looks like a bird flying on the ice.

3 :35 : "ça va se jouer à très peu"
>>> It’s going to be a close call

5 :42 : "va-t-on lui accorder 4 points ?"
>>> Are we going to grant him 4 points?

Really these parts were quite hard to catch because their voices go down at the end of their sentences or they're just mumbling. I don't know if you're a native speaker ut even I had to listen to it again 2 or 3 times to be sure.

Haha, thanks for this. I see that we've finally found some commentators that do not seem to like Hanyu very much. Well, a variety of tastes is good for the world. But I can't agree with them about their views on Hanyu's 2012 choreography. It was one of the best put together programs of that year...or ever.

Haha I remember being so annoyed at these commentators the first time! Especially the guy named Philippe who keeps counting Yuzuru's arm movements with a mocking tone in his voice gets on my nerves every time ^^ And I think they're really harsh with their comments on the choreography: saying it is poor or insisting also on the fact that Hanyu's interpretative skills are non-existant (he is not a junior but a novice as far as interpretation is concerned here for them!).

I remember also that in another video (maybe Worlds 2013), one of the guys was annoyed at Hanyu collapsing on the ice at the end saying that he was overdoing it...
 
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Btw, are they the same commentators from this 2012 lp worlds video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC_lYMOcTfQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No they're not. Worlds 2012 were commented by the commentators from France 2 and France 3 channels (Nelson Monfort who's the guy commenting on EVERY sports in France and who doesn't know much about the technical side, so that's why he is assisted by Philippe Candeloro who is quite fun to listen to and Annick Dumont).

I think that among the other guys (the ones from Eurosport) you find Alban Préaubert (a former French figure skater) but I'm not sure about the other two.

EDIT: I found it. The guys from Eurosport are Géraldine Pons, Philippe Pelissier and Alban Préaubert. (so now I know the guy who mostly gets on my nerves is Philippe Pelissier ^^). Apparently he is a former figure skater and a coach.
 
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Haha I remember being so annoyed at these commentators the first time! Especially the guy named Philippe who keeps counting Yuzuru's arm movements with a mocking tone in his voice gets on my nerves every time ^^ And I think they're really harsh with their comments on the choreography: saying it is poor or insisting also on the fact that Hanyu's interpretative skills are non-existant (he is not a junior but a novice as far as interpretation is concerned here for them!).

I remember also that in another video (maybe Worlds 2013), one of the guys was annoyed at Hanyu collapsing on the ice at the end saying that he was overdoing it...

:laugh: Their comments don't particularly bother me because it shows they are rather biased against him personally rather than commenting on a neutral POV :scratch:

Thank you again, and to everyone else who provided translations! :bow:
 
It seems that there are people who don't like yuzu. There is nothing we can do about it. It seems that some people really don’t like Yuzu’s posture. I am not bothered by his posture. I actually think his long limbs and flexibility/soft lines make his posture look pretty good. I only find his posture bad when he gets tired and his hunched shoulder shows up.
 
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