Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season

[Bonesfan]

Unseen gif of Yuzu at 12 yr old

with KANAKO!

 

[skatefan22]

with KANAKO!

Yep. A bit shy to each other though.

 

[Hanmgse]

Unseen gif of Yuzu at 12 yr old

so cute

 

[Meoima]

I'm thinking about the flip jump, and now and then I wonder why Yuzuru get the call for his flip now and then before this season while other times not.

Flip is not like the Lutz which requires counter rotation and deep outside edge. Many skaters who have not good edge in the flip like Yuzuru are actually not chronic lippers. Since the Flip take off requires the natural direction of the jump, it is easier to gain control over the flip than the Lutz. With the Flip, sometimes depend on the situation skater can take off from inside edge (Carolina), from flat edge (Yuzuru), or from a slight outside edge which is very difficult to notice from many angles.

Since most Flip take off is from shallow inside edge, from the video it's not easy to see Flip edge. While the Lutz it's always and should be on the clear outside edge, it's easier to notice. So with the Flip, I guess we can give credit/benefit of doubt to skaters.

I look up many protocols, as well as other skaters' flip/lutz and the flutz of some Russian ladies, then videos... (yes I know I'm a nerd but news has been slow these days). I come to conclusion that Yuzuru's flip most of the times is not down right wrong edge, it's just flat and sometimes he might have taken off from the right inside edge. And this season his flip has been called clean by most international tech panels. Has his Flip truly gotten better? Or the tech panel was easy on him? I think both.

I guess Flip might never be his favorite jump, but at the same time he is not very terrible at it.

 

[ranran]

Another view of Yuzuru practice at GPF, SP, just saw on facebook: http://youtu.be/MpC81U6JlyM

The 3lutz 3toe was right on the note here which no wonder he miss it in competition as he rush the draw back~ I hope to see this kind of performance at world as when done perfectly it will be sublime!

 

[kora52]

Another view of Yuzuru practice at GPF, SP, just saw on facebook: http://youtu.be/MpC81U6JlyM

Surprising that in practice the Yuzu no problems with cascade!

 

[yhmafan]

Beautiful video(；_；) and the similarities of their costumes.
No wonder why Yuzuru’s time traveler reminds me of Mao’s Jupiter……


many thanks to the uploader

 

[ahkeekee]

It is confirmed that yuzuru is competing in the coming world's and the sp and fs competition would be held in two consecutive days (that's tiring.... )

 

[skatefan22]

I never doubt. He will compete at wc for sure.

 

[xibsuarz]

I'm thinking about the flip jump, and now and then I wonder why Yuzuru get the call for his flip now and then before this season while other times not.

Flip is not like the Lutz which requires counter rotation and deep outside edge. Many skaters who have not good edge in the flip like Yuzuru are actually not chronic lippers. Since the Flip take off requires the natural direction of the jump, it is easier to gain control over the flip than the Lutz. With the Flip, sometimes depend on the situation skater can take off from inside edge (Carolina), from flat edge (Yuzuru), or from a slight outside edge which is very difficult to notice from many angles.

Since most Flip take off is from shallow inside edge, from the video it's not easy to see Flip edge. While the Lutz it's always and should be on the clear outside edge, it's easier to notice. So with the Flip, I guess we can give credit/benefit of doubt to skaters.

I look up many protocols, as well as other skaters' flip/lutz and the flutz of some Russian ladies, then videos... (yes I know I'm a nerd but news has been slow these days). I come to conclusion that Yuzuru's flip most of the times is not down right wrong edge, it's just flat and sometimes he might have taken off from the right inside edge. And this season his flip has been called clean by most international tech panels. Has his Flip truly gotten better? Or the tech panel was easy on him? I think both.

I guess Flip might never be his favorite jump, but at the same time he is not very terrible at it.

Very interesting point on his Flip. I've never noticed that before (I struggle a lot with the edge calling, I can hardly see them), but I'll watch his flip in slow motion. Without much researh and information, I'd say I agree with you: it's most likely a combination of the fact that he's gotten better at it, that calling a wrong edge when the blades are flat in this jump is difficult, and yeah maybe the tech panel has gone a bit easy on him.

 

[shiroKJ]

I'm thinking about the flip jump, and now and then I wonder why Yuzuru get the call for his flip now and then before this season while other times not.

Flip is not like the Lutz which requires counter rotation and deep outside edge. Many skaters who have not good edge in the flip like Yuzuru are actually not chronic lippers. Since the Flip take off requires the natural direction of the jump, it is easier to gain control over the flip than the Lutz. With the Flip, sometimes depend on the situation skater can take off from inside edge (Carolina), from flat edge (Yuzuru), or from a slight outside edge which is very difficult to notice from many angles.

Since most Flip take off is from shallow inside edge, from the video it's not easy to see Flip edge. While the Lutz it's always and should be on the clear outside edge, it's easier to notice. So with the Flip, I guess we can give credit/benefit of doubt to skaters.

I look up many protocols, as well as other skaters' flip/lutz and the flutz of some Russian ladies, then videos... (yes I know I'm a nerd but news has been slow these days). I come to conclusion that Yuzuru's flip most of the times is not down right wrong edge, it's just flat and sometimes he might have taken off from the right inside edge. And this season his flip has been called clean by most international tech panels. Has his Flip truly gotten better? Or the tech panel was easy on him? I think both.

I guess Flip might never be his favorite jump, but at the same time he is not very terrible at it.

His flip in compeition hasn't gotten better IMO. He doesn't lip but majority of the time its on the flat edge/unclear. He gets an ! call on it occasionally but not always. I wouldn't flip out (no pun intended lol) about those calls since its usually just boarderline and its more about the tech panel giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than anything. :think:

It is confirmed that yuzuru is competing in the coming world's and the sp and fs competition would be held in two consecutive days (that's tiring.... )

I've always said that he would be there even if he had to crawl onto the ice hwell: Do we have anything on his current training location? Japan? Canada? Unknown mountain where ninja's go to train?

 

[Meoima]

His flip in compeition hasn't gotten better IMO. He doesn't lip but majority of the time its on the flat edge/unclear. He gets an ! call on it occasionally but not always. I wouldn't flip out (no pun intended lol) about those calls since its usually just boarderline and its more about the tech panel giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than anything. :think:

His flip is all considered clean this season in CoC, NHK and GPF. At national they're harsher I suppose.
As long as he doesn't lip, it's alright.
And still no news of his current state, like where is he staying...

 

[HanDomi]

And still no news of his current state, like where is he staying...

I guess Yuzuru is meditating somewhere in very, far, far away mountains in biellman position :
http://www.yogirose.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/mountain_top_yoga.jpg

 

[shiroKJ]

His flip is all considered clean this season in CoC, NHK and GPF. At national they're harsher I suppose.
As long as he doesn't lip, it's alright.
And still no news of his current state, like where is he staying...

Lets hope no news is good news? Don't remember CoC or NHK but I think GPF had a flat edge. The panel was lenient on that one but then again...I thought he deserved higher GOE on some of his jumps so :sarcasm:

 

[Meoima]

Lets hope no news is good news? Don't remember CoC or NHK but I think GPF had a flat edge. The panel was lenient on that one but then again...I thought he deserved higher GOE on some of his jumps so :sarcasm:

GPF from a sideway fancam it was not too flat, slightly inside edge. The angle of TV camera doesn't show it right.

 

[shiroKJ]

GPF from a sideway fancam it was not too flat, slightly inside edge. The angle of TV camera doesn't show it right.

Ah I see. I only watched it from 2 angles but only one had a close up of his flip. :yes:

 

[HanDomi]

If this "spread eagle, 3A" received +2.57 at JWC, how would you rate the below assuming you can give more than +3

"Spread eagle, 3A, spread eagle" which received +3
"Difficult entry, 3A, spread eagle" which received +2.43

+5 and +5,5

although both deserve +3 in current system

 

[Poice]

Lets hope no news is good news? Don't remember CoC or NHK but I think GPF had a flat edge. The panel was lenient on that one but then again...I thought he deserved higher GOE on some of his jumps so :sarcasm:

I guess at GPF judges didn't want to give him world record score with a fall so they were harsher on GOE

 

[Meoima]

I guess at GPF judges didn't want to give him world record score with a fall so they were harsher on GOE

Obviously he skated first in the SP so his score was lower than it should be IMO.

 

[alia jackson]

Regarding the above, I agree with what Moria posted as below in the GPF 2014 thread

World Record is not a some sublime impression one gets. It's a RECORD. Like in all sports, it's a set of numbers. If someone's content is high enough despite the fall, then their numbers will reflect that. How can someone not be "allowed" to get anywhere near a set of numbers? So if a middle-player falls on a 2A, he should be punished a certain way, but if a top-player falls on a 2A in a program that gets him near or beyond WR, he should be punished harsher so that he wouldn't get near the WR? Or what?