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I agree; I think he won't go back to Toronto until after his show in January. But if he is going to 4cc which is also in Asia maybe he'll stay until then? We'll find out after Nationals right? I think that's when they announce the entries.

really don't think he will go to 4cc. japan could only have 2 men go to the world, I believe there are many other people need to go to competition too.
 
both cbc and eurosports said his second 4t was under rotated, was it really under rotated??????

One of the tech controlers was Scott Davis and he is pretty harsh on jumps, so I feel if Scott felt it was clean, it was clean. I feel like it looked under rotated because of the camera angle IMO, but it was a pretty tight landing though.
 
One of the tech controlers was Scott Davis and he is pretty harsh on jumps, so I feel if Scott felt it was clean, it was clean. I feel like it looked under rotated because of the camera angle IMO, but it was a pretty tight landing though.

The 2nd 4t looks more rotated than the 4t at NHK. (I'm not expert.)

In addition to the level 3 stsq, the 4t-3t in the second half (in both LP and SP, I assume he will move the 4t-3t to the 2nd half of the SP after national) is also something he can improve on, so there is no dispute on the 4t is rotated or not.)
 
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If Yuzuru achieved everything and still have time left before retirement age. He should try this layout in FS.

4Lz
4F
4Lo
4S
4T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lz+3T
3F+3Lo


I called this the 'ELEVEN ORPHANS'. (akin to the mahjong hand called Thirteen Orphans).
All jumps are quads and triples (except for the 1Lo), and no jump is repeated.:shocked:

Advantage: No risk of zayaking if any quads turn into triple.


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One of the tech controlers was Scott Davis and he is pretty harsh on jumps, so I feel if Scott felt it was clean, it was clean. I feel like it looked under rotated because of the camera angle IMO, but it was a pretty tight landing though.

Yes, remember Scott Davis was the tech controler at AC and he did not go easy on Yuzu with the UR on the 4Ts on both the SP and the FS. I wouldn't say it was perfectly round at the GPF, but it was not missing enough rotation to be called UR. However, as Kurt said, I think he noticed that and will work on it leading up to Nationals. After all, he's not behind the score, but the perfect performance.
Am I too weird for finding the CBC commentators reaction to the score funny? Like they're not even surprised (except for Kurt), they were all "oh look, Yuzuru broke his WR again, no big deal".
 
both cbc and eurosports said his second 4t was under rotated, was it really under rotated??????

I thought it was not as fully rotated as we are use to seeing from him, but within the 1/4 mark to not get the < or at least for the caller to give him the benefit of the doubt. Was surprised that the 1st 4T got marked for review rather than the 2nd one, but I agree it could have been the camera angle.
 
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I'm surprised Yuzu talked about going for the 4Lz before the 4F. I know he sometimes has edge problems on the 3F but other than that, it is usually pretty solid (other than the Olympics :sarcasm:) I feel though Yuzu himself would rather try for the 4A before the 4F from what I gathered on how he feels about the flip jump :laugh2:
 
Yes, remember Scott Davis was the tech controler at AC and he did not go easy on Yuzu with the UR on the 4Ts on both the SP and the FS. I wouldn't say it was perfectly round at the GPF, but it was not missing enough rotation to be called UR. However, as Kurt said, I think he noticed that and will work on it leading up to Nationals. After all, he's not behind the score, but the perfect performance.
Am I too weird for finding the CBC commentators reaction to the score funny? Like they're not even surprised (except for Kurt), they were all "oh look, Yuzuru broke his WR again, no big deal".

I figure this was because the commentary for CBC was taped after the fact? Does anyone know if Kurt and Carol were in Barcelona? I think only PJ Kwong was. To me you can always sort of tell when commentary is taped after the fact, it loses some of the spontaneity and excitement, which is why I tend to prefer British Eurosport since their commentators are usually commenting from the rink, even if the broadcast isn't live.
 
Oh Patrick, just stop talking.....when I attended that presser with Patrick, he was improving (ie not saying any stupid things)...now after I read his latest comments, I can only slap my forehead!!!!! I think what he said can be taken a couple different ways, but I am sure the Yuzu fandom is gonna freak out about this....regardless of what his actually intended meaning was.

Maxed out?? Yeah, I don't think so! I think I know what he meant....and its not as bad as it sounds...for example, when he says Yuzu has maxed out, he probably means "with the current layout" but he doesnt say it that way..... I am not going to defend him though....Patrick dug this hole, he can get out of it himself...

http://www.thestar.com/sports/skati...eaver-andrew-poje-reign-in-spain-dimanno.html

I have to say that what Patrick say is true that the 'current' layout is maxed out, except that current layouts usually last for one or two seasons.
Patrick's 'current' layout had been current for the last 3-4 years though, he sure needs that 4S. I mean a couple of juniors already have 2 different quads.

Yuzuru and Orser on the other hand wouldn't rest on their Seimei laurels (and wouldn't let Javi rest on his Spanish laurels either.) It is only mid-season and Orser already planned out what to add, and Yuzuru is already 75% with his 4Lo for next season!

I think you need a good but tough coach. I remember someone on goldenskate interviewed Brian Orser at COC. Brian said he sometimes has to get tough with his boys if needed to, not mollycoddle all the way.
 
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judging by insta pics form the banquet Yuzu agreed to take pics with everyone:laugh:
He's def the mister polular!:agree:
 
I'm surprised Yuzu talked about going for the 4Lz before the 4F. I know he sometimes has edge problems on the 3F but other than that, it is usually pretty solid (other than the Olympics :sarcasm:) I feel though Yuzu himself would rather try for the 4A before the 4F from what I gathered on how he feels about the flip jump :laugh2:

I think either him or Brian has said that he hates the flip jump and probably won't ever go for a 4F but you never know whats going to happen :2thumbs:
if he ever lands a clean 4A in competition or even just in practice i will bow down and stay down
 
I'm surprised Yuzu talked about going for the 4Lz before the 4F. I know he sometimes has edge problems on the 3F but other than that, it is usually pretty solid (other than the Olympics :sarcasm:) I feel though Yuzu himself would rather try for the 4A before the 4F from what I gathered on how he feels about the flip jump :laugh2:
lol I wouldn't be surprised to hear about his 4A before his 4F.
 
The Yuzu fandom should just take a chill pill and ignore comments like that :biggrin: even if he were maxed out - well then, go ahead and have fun catching up with him. 60+ points difference, shouldn't be too much of a problem to get there. Puh-lease :biggrin:
I can actually totally understand that he would tell himself something like that. All the other guys can't just go "ok, that's it, we can all just retire because nobody is ever gonna win anything against this wonder boy from outer space". Of course they have to think that they can still improve and that they can get close to him, and if Yuzu messed up, they can actually win against him. But usually it's better to skip that kind of speech during interviews.
To be honest I couldn't care less what Patrick actually says. It's more that when he says things like this, I don't think he has any respect for Yuzuru. Whenever Yuzu is asked about another skater he is so complimentary and he'll find all of the good qualities that they have and praise them for them. Patrick is asked the same and he's a big ol' negative nelly saying how he's maxed out and he can make mistakes and he's seen nothing special.

He needs to take some time to stop focusing on himself and maybe do as Yuzuru does and look to other skaters in order to help improve himself. Because when Patrick is whining and complaining, Yuzuru is watching and improving and breaking records.

Agree with you guys, at first when I came across the comment, I was like ... 'maxed out'? Even if Yuzuru did 'max out' as Patrick describes it, the performance and score were both amazing and not anyone would be close enough to beat it in the current men's field. Yuzuru achieved a huge accomplishment and all Patrick says is something that seems to be upgrading himself(and his ego), but it just did it complete opposite. :palmf:
 
I'm surprised Yuzu talked about going for the 4Lz before the 4F. I know he sometimes has edge problems on the 3F but other than that, it is usually pretty solid (other than the Olympics :sarcasm:) I feel though Yuzu himself would rather try for the 4A before the 4F from what I gathered on how he feels about the flip jump :laugh2:

while his lutz has become more inconsistent in this past two seasons, Yuzuru has always hated the flip: even when he was still a junior he stated that the flip was the jump he was more uncomfortable with
 
I would like to tell him "Please Hanyu-sama, have some mercy and do not participate in the nationals this year. Let other skaters also taste a gold medal once in a while."

I don't think Japan allows automatic qualification without participation in Nationals, both culturally and financially.
 
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