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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

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kelleigh said:
But I absolutely don't mind to see Seimei as in EX in the future. ;)
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I very, very, very much hope so. it's definitely one of the best programmes I've ever seen in my entire life. I envy everybody who had the privilege to watch Yuzu doing Seimei live, especially at NHK and GPF.
 
seimei said:
I think you're really overracting... He's not god or something to be always perfect even saint... people who became negative to yuzu through this happening, I really think they're people who's not side of yuzu from previous. Every people have fan and anti. Nobody can be exception. Just inevitable whatever. Yuzu acted that with his own responsibility for feedback. and finished. Please don't spread negative power anymore.
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I can say whatever i want, it's called freedom of speech. And i think you underestimate the whole situation. The injustice he is experiencing shows him in a bad light, people now believe he is an arrogant attention- seeking kid. This is the reality. If he is losing popularity, people won't buy tickets and his products, and in the worst case he will receive a not very warm welcome in the arenas. Everyone should remember nationals 2012.
But let's hope for the best.
 
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Lillian said:
I can say whatever i want, it's called freedom of speech. And i think you underestimate the whole situation. The injustice he is experiencing shows him in a bad light, people now believe he is an arrogant attention- seeking kid. This is the reality. If he is losing popularity, people won't buy tickets and his products, and in the worst case he will receive a not very warm welcome in the arenas. Everyone should remember nationals 2012.
But let's hope for the best.
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What happes in nationals 2012? I have yet into skating in that time. I mean, is there even a problem/scandal? The only thing i know it was done in sendai, his hometown and he won. I didnt see the reason why he didnt receive warm welcome. I mean, it was in hometown! And as far as i know, in sendai he seen as town's pride/ treasure.
 
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Just read this article. I don't get it...JSF did their best to make Hanyu be sorry for what? ? ?...

EXCLUSIVE. We do not want to mar our relations with Japanese colleagues for one athlete’s misconduct – Kazakh National Skating Federation

“Our colleagues from Japan called us not to lodge complain to the International Skating Union. They urged us to avoid any scandal. We are closely cooperating with the Japanese Federation. We do not want to mar relations with Japanese for one athlete’s misconduct, even if he is an Olympic Champion. This is very important. Japanese Federation did their best to make Hanyu be sorry for what he had done,” added Russinova.

http://www.inform.kz/eng/article/2889688
 
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skatefan22 said:
Just read this article. I don't get it...Why did JSF apologize? For what?? Denis Ten didn't apologize for what he did and it turned out that JSF has to apologize? What is wrong with this crazy world?

EXCLUSIVE. We do not want to mar our relations with Japanese colleagues for one athlete’s misconduct – Kazakh National Skating Federation

“Our colleagues from Japan called us not to lodge complain to the International Skating Union. They urged us to avoid any scandal. We are closely cooperating with the Japanese Federation. We do not want to mar relations with Japanese for one athlete’s misconduct, even if he is an Olympic Champion. This is very important. Japanese Federation did their best to make Hanyu be sorry for what he had done,” added Russinova.

http://www.inform.kz/eng/article/2889688
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GIIIIIIIIRL this is the same site that published the other article in which their info source was a fan community. why are you still paying attention to them?
 
My heart is exploding now.

People, do you still want to remain silent? Do you still think this is fan war? Denisten_official has been posting messages everyday for some time, accusing Yuzuru and calling him the disgrace of Japan. And now this. If we don't stand up for Yuzu, who will? He doesn't have a way to speak for himself, his federation is a coward, his federation wants peace even if it is at the expense of Yuzu's honour, the Japanese media doesn't help either. But what hurts me most is that Yuzu's fans all choose to turn a deaf ear to Yuzu's cry. Of course, it's more important for you to debate 'is Borser a good coach or bad coach' than to fight for Yuzu.
I'm sorry for the above. I'll delete this post later. I just...have to speak out my true feeling.
 
Hanmgse said:
GIIIIIIIIRL this is the same site that published the other article in which their info source was a fan community. why are you still paying attention to them?
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I didn't pay attention to that incident any more during the past two days but then today this article was retweeted to my homepage so I had a look at it.

People say that this is one of the largest news agencies and the only international news agency of Ten's country. An agency like that, I suppose, should have reliable source...After all, it is quoting a lot Kazakh National Skating Federation. If it is making up stories, then it is miserable that a large news agency would do that. Assuming what it said is true, then I really don't understand the action of JSF. If what is said is not true, then since this news agency is influential in kazakhstan, then many many people will be misled by it and think Yuzu is the one at fault. Neither case is good.

Eloyse said:
My heart is exploding now.

People, do you still want to remain silent? Do you still think this is fan war? Denisten_official has been posting messages everyday for some time, accusing Yuzuru and calling him the disgrace of Japan. And now this. If we don't stand up for Yuzu, who will? He doesn't have a way to speak for himself, his federation is a coward, his federation wants peace even if it is at the expense of Yuzu's honour, the Japanese media doesn't help either. But what hurts me most is that Yuzu's fans all choose to turn a deaf ear to Yuzu's cry. Of course, it's more important for you to debate 'is Borser a good coach or bad coach' than to fight for Yuzu.
I'm sorry for the above. I'll delete this post later. I just...have to speak out my true feeling.
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I think JSF started by playing strong but then suddenly resort to a more peaceful manner. Yuzu's attitude might play a role here. He was very angry at the beginning but then he decided to play noble. He is a honest and straight-forward person. He expressed his feelings right on the spot. But he is also a man on mission. He probably doesn't want to bother with this incident any more and just wants to focus on training. He made an effort to settle with Ten before gala. Then he can move on. I think Yuzu did everything right and wise.

Regarding Ten, he didn't even apologize which made me feel sick at him. But if Yuzu decided to let it go, I will try to myself as his fan. But now, looks like Ten and his team never want to end this story. Even after the worlds, Ten and his team kept bringing up this topic again and again, and worst still, they claim they are innocent and Yuzu is the one at fault. That is something that I can't bear with.

There are videos on youtube showing the incident. Let the video speaks for itself. I believe most of us in this thread sympathize with Yuzu and there is no need to repeatedly criticize Ten in this thread since some might prefer a more positive vide in this thread. But considering the latest move of Ten and his team, I hope we can retweet those videos and let people know what happened.
 
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Ah, now i know why i have uneasy feeling after he reach that unimaginable world record in nhk and gpf..
His greatest seasons always followed by his hardest seasons- and vice versa. It's like world try to make balance. You taste heaven, then you should also taste a bit of hell.. And vice versa.
The way i see it, 2016-2017 will be a very hard season for yuzu. I think it will hard for jim to top javi next season : javi has the momentum, and simply has better health/mental balance than yuzu right now. And now this kazach hullabaloo. Ugh..
But it's not necessarily bad. Yuzu's current lower ground provide chance to address his issue. The kid is smart and a fighter! I think whatever issues he have it should fixed by the end of 2016-2017 season or early 2017-2018. Then it would be big payback time for yuzu. I hope he can seized the biggest prize : 2018 oly gold.
 
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skatefan22 said:
Just read this article. I don't get it...

http://www.inform.kz/eng/article/2889688
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That's the version of Kaz media, Jpn has never said they apologize from its statement but they didn't clarify too. Basically I found that's different approaches between the two parties to deal with this incident and thus leading to the current situation, which is nothing to do with the truth anymore.

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It is what it is. I hold my own stance that I still believe spreading out the full picture of this matter is the correct thing to do and I have done my part. Meanwhile I don't feel any aggressive actions neglecting others' willingness that force people to do or feel the same way with me are helping Yuzuru. Imo, if people feel fed up with this, pushing it is just worsen the situation.

This thread named as Yuzu's fan fest, which I believe people here will not dislike Yuzu because of this incident. Does any fan here in this thread needed to be persuaded? Obviously enough information has been posted and buddies can judge by themselves. If people don't feel like taking the same approach to anyone of the other, reality is telling that being pushy is not a helping to gain support. That's personal choice.
 
Diahpam said:
Ah, now i know why i have uneasy feeling after he reach that unimaginable world record in nhk and gpf..
His greatest seasons always followed by his hardest seasons- and vice versa. It's like world try to make balance. You taste heaven, then you should also taste a bit of hell.. And vice versa.
The way i see it, 2016-2017 will be a very hard season for yuzu. I think it will hard for jim to top javi next season : javi has the momentum, and simply has better health/mental balance than yuzu right now. And now this kazach hullabaloo. Ugh..
But it's not necessarily bad. Yuzu's current lower ground provide chance to address his issue. The kid is smart and a fighter! I think whatever issues he have it should fixed by the end of 2016-2017 season or early 2017-2018. Then it would be big payback time for yuzu. I hope he can seized the biggest prize : 2018 oly gold.
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Yeah, a lot of challenges are there indeed. Physically Yuzuru has some injuries now, but the situation is a bit uncertain. Somehow, thinking on the bright side is that he has a rather long period of time to handle this. When the next season starts in September, he should be ready for it.

I believe Javier has built up confidence now but his clear challenge is his age. He's now 23, turning to 24, usually the peak as a male skater. Yet he gradually starts having itty-bitty injuries. I don't always pay close attention to him, but I remember he was said to have some kind of little knee problem also in 2014-15 season. Quite a number of athletes start declining in a short time when they pass a point of their ages (sad term...), all in a sudden, it's not rare. I am not saying Javier will be one of them (and not cursing him), but he has his own concern to mind.
 
Eloyse said:
My heart is exploding now.

People, do you still want to remain silent? Do you still think this is fan war? Denisten_official has been posting messages everyday for some time, accusing Yuzuru and calling him the disgrace of Japan. And now this. If we don't stand up for Yuzu, who will? He doesn't have a way to speak for himself, his federation is a coward, his federation wants peace even if it is at the expense of Yuzu's honour, the Japanese media doesn't help either. But what hurts me most is that Yuzu's fans all choose to turn a deaf ear to Yuzu's cry. Of course, it's more important for you to debate 'is Borser a good coach or bad coach' than to fight for Yuzu.
I'm sorry for the above. I'll delete this post later. I just...have to speak out my true feeling.
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if Denis behavior is true, I think is very serious, in my opinion worse than a dopping case. So Yuzu is acussing Denis at media. I am not a lawyer but I think if Denis wants he can proceed and ask an official investigation, it will be difficult just for the video to know if that was intentional or not, but clearly Yuzu is acussing him and that is defamation. Because of that I think JF are not supporting him openly.
 
skatefan22 said:
There are videos on youtube showing the incident. Let the video speaks for itself. I believe most of us in this thread sympathize with Yuzu and there is no need to repeatedly criticize Ten in this thread since some might prefer a more positive vide in this thread. But considering the latest move of Ten and his team, I hope we can retweet those videos and let people know what happened.
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Yes, I trust this is what the best people can do for clarifying the issue if they want to. I have done my part and I do hope the others will do so too. However this is something voluntary. Sometimes people want the thread to be more positive but that doesn't mean they do nothing. Last but not least, we don't monitor each others' every move everywhere lol :laugh:
 
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