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http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170219-00000088-dal-spo

He says its his happiest silver medal ever :agree2:

-サルコーの失敗から構成を変えてリカバリーした。シミュレーションしていた?

 「4回転トーループを後半2本にしようと決めたのは、トリプルアクセル-3回転トーループを降りてから。 4回転サルコーをもう1回跳べれば跳ぼうと思ったけど、跳んだ感覚としてちょっと厳しいと思ったので。練習 ではたまに、4回転サルコーがうまくはまらなかった時用に、トリプルアクセル-3回転トーループのところで 4Sの練習をしていたが、まず3A3Tをきれいに決めることが先決だと思った。その後、体力が少し余ってい ると思ったので、4回転トーループをやってみたら跳べました。シミュレーションはしていない。コンビネーシ ョンの回数だとかを計算しながらやっていた」
THIS CRAZY BRAIN (translation is rough. someone correct if wrong! thx)
- He decided to do two 4T in the second half, after he landed 3A3T. He thought he'd do 4S once more, but felt a little too tight/tired for that. In practice, when he doesn't land 4S nicely, he would sometimes do 4S where he does 3A3T. Today, he thought he should land the 3A3T nicely first. After that, he realized he still had strength, so he decided to do the 4T. Has never gone through a simulation like that. He was calculating the number of combinations he could do all the while skating.

In the interview he said he consider adding fifth quad But he won't give up two 3A So means he will add another kind of quad? maybe..


Holy cow look at the Chinese fans :points:

Did they say "Yuzu wo ai ni" (Yuzu I love you) at 0.17min :love:

I think they're saying 'You zi, wo ai ni", since his nickname in China is 柚子 (grapefruit), since phonetically it sounds like Yuzu.



A fancam of the gala finale: https://www.periscope.tv/w/1OwxWPmmrWAKQ
You can see him interacting with the sweeper girls around 9:35

A lot of video snippets from here: https://twitter.com/GeumNa


Please everyone, don't start all this worrying again, enough is enough, at least TRY to be optimistic for one day? Worrying is not good for your own health, and there's nothing you can do about Yuzuru's health, so...
Here's a little something to make you all forget about imagined-or-not stiff backs and no-biellmans and whatnots.
Or way off-topic: go watch that GYMRUSSIA thing that's on youtube right now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvUegearYc
talk about stiff backs, wow, those ladies have no bones in their backs at all.

Lazy transcription from Eurosport SP Dutch commentary:
(lots of paraphrasing, I don’t feel like writing everything down).

SP
During the warmup they talk a bit about how Hanyu is ‘un-Japanese’ in the sense that he did move away from Japan to train at a young age, whereas most Japanese skaters train in Japan.
Yuzuru Hanyu has the world record, with 110.95, one of those few men who can score over 100 points. If he skates relatively clean today, that should be possible.

Most difficult jump, the quad loop, there it is, very beautifully executed. Oh nooo, double salchow, triple toeloop, misses two rotations. And then the triple is good, very nice.

In one second he leaves about ten points lying around, and that’s exactly what he misses [compared to Chen’s tech score]. He doesn’t look like he minds, though. He even jumped it double instead of quad and put a triple at the end, so it was still allowed, but a double and a quad are about ten points in difference, so that’s a lot. The music is terrific, by Prince, skated with all his heart, he went completely for it, although maybe a little less than if he’d jumped the quad. 4CC isn’t his thing, he never won the gold here, but since around the 2012 season he never relaly ended up lower than second (not sure what they’re talking about here, 4CC or in general). But he’s usually there when it really counts. This quad loop was magnificent. It’s his focus this season, to add that quad loop to both programs. Oh well, it’s not that bad, better that it happens here than at the World championship, or, imagine at the Olympics next year, just letting go of 10 points in the SP. Yes, he has to manage his peaks every season.

He usually starts not so well in the GP season, peaks at the GPF, then it’s a bit lower again, and then it has to peak at Worlds. Last two years the Worlds weren’t great, but in the Olympic season it worked wonderfully. Just like in speed skating (my comment: lol, Dutch commentary mentioning speed skating), very important, managing your peaks, because the season is so long (they talk a bit about the different competitions, inc Japanese nationals, and next year when things change around a bit due to the Olys).

They can laugh about it, Orser and Hanyu, it won’t be 100 but it’ll be close, 97.04. Components average of 9.4 which one of the commentators (who also is an ISU judge) thinks is rather high, but he’s happy with it. He thanks the judges, you saved me, well, that’s not true, Yuzuru, it was actually very good aside from that one jump, of course.

Green room gif? I missed it during the comp so didnt see his reaction.
here it is



Season's best score 206.67 is pretty great job :agree: Is it the highest for anyone this season?

Also beautiful 4S-3T in warm up https://twitter.com/GeumNa/status/833182299105611776

I really want him to master the combo in competition, it is such a nice jumping pass but then again he doesn't need it and he really deserves (at least) another world title. Perhaps better in the longer run though to push the 4S-3T - but change the entry more?

Yuzuru "Thank you" after gala :luv17:

and the Dutch Eurosport FS, quick and dirty transcription

Yuzuru Hanyu, he cannot allow himself to make many mistakes anymore, because more and more men can do multiple difficult quad jumps. He’s third after the SP with 97 points, but actually he did really well with a quad loop and triple axel, but opened his second quad, the salchow, at double, but he did combine it with a triple toeloop so the damage wasn’t too bad.
Yuzuru opens with a SPEC-TA-CU-LAR quad loop (commentator emphasizes every single syllable of the four-syllable Dutch word “schitterende”!), which he’s added to his programs this season. Quad slalchow. Triple flip. Oh, the salchow turns into a double, he’d planned a quad, just like in the SP. But then, here, a beautiful quad toeloop. He’s still got a lot up his sleeve.
Triple axel, triple toeloop. And you can see him thinking here, he’s rearranging the jumps now, he jumps a second quad toeloop here, and a double, because he missed that salchow. You can only execute every jump twice, you’re not allowed to repeat more than two. Here a second triple axel, superb!
Wow, I have enormous respect for Yuzuru Hanyu, not just because this was a brilliant program, but also how he dealt with missing the salchow in the middle of the program. You’re only allowed to repeat two triple or quad jumps, alone or in combination, so he knew he’d missed the repetition of that quad salchow, so he could do another quad jump twice, so he thought about while skating the program and so did two quad toeloops, and there were also two triple axels, so he knew it was exactly right with all his content. So he actually even made the program more difficult at the end, because he exchanged the triple lutz, the one at the end, for another triple axel, all the while during the program, that’s unbelievable. And exactly how talented are you when you’re able to, when there’s a lutz in your choreography, just change things around and jump a triple axel? And without a long preparation for the jump.

And Orser here is astonished, too. What did you do?! Hanyu’s explaining to him, haha, did you see that, I just did this and that, I could do that. Yeah, but this also comes from many hours of training, I see him at competitions often and if you look at the practices there, he jumps one quad after another, the quad toeloop, sixteen, even twenty times in a training, and makes so many miles with those quads. And also, when you skate that program, he always skates like it’s a competition, you always look for those max scores, also in the trainings.
So actually, he knows and understands everything so well [about the jumps], that’s when you are capable of switching things around, you can think, Oh, I missed the salchow, so I can do the toeloop twice, so it turns into plan B or plan E. That’s why he’s such a great champion, Yuzuru Hanyu, which means once again he’s the top favorite for the World championship, as well as the Olympic Games. He can do this like no other, and also skate a beautiful program with music with transitions, it’s just complete. So, this was by far the best program of the day, at least so far, of course, Nathan Chen still has to come, but he doesn’t have the presentations, the skating skills or transition like Hanyu does.
Hanyu twice in a row winner of the GPF, but not Worlds. He needs to have another season, and not peak in December, and so this 4CC has to lead towards a super-peak at the end of March in Helsinki at Worlds where he very badly wants to win back his Worlds title from his training mate Javi Fernandez. Look, he’s analyzing how he changed his program on the fly, Oh, did I do that, oh, okay!
Yes, it all fit together, Yuzuru, you did well. Wonderful, this analysis in the kiss ‘n cry. Oh, wonderful [to see his reaction], he’s almost his own coach, to do it like this [again, still talking about changing the program around, I guess], unbelievable. Oooh, 303 points, wow, highest score so far this season. It’s not a personal best, that’s at 330, but it’s definitely the best achievement of the season.
 
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I mean if we are suggesting music I absolutely love this: https://youtu.be/_VONMkKkdf4?t=1m48s - I have cut to where the "drama" really begins so plz try it, but the whole piece is AMAZING. It is subtle, dramatic, emotional and just... I can't :palmf:

Of course it is done by Laurine already, but I would imagine a bit of a different cut of it - a bit more of the emotional intensity for Yuzuru perhaps :biggrin:. I'm including a link to Laurine's performance of it (the b.esp guys love it and she's also upped the tech for it so I'm hoping for great things for Worlds for her and the program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD15HYNkV1c)

edited because I forgot the last (bracket) which is unforgivable, I will just let myself out - I'm so so sorry

Oh this is an AWESOME choice :o Yes. I can totally see Yuzuru doing this, now that you say it. Can someone message Brian on instagram and get this on the radar? XD Along with taiko's, etc.
 
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Oh this is an AWESOME choice :o Yes. I can totally see Yuzuru doing this, now that you say it. Can someone message Brian on instagram and get this on the radar? XD
Along with taiko's, etc.

:biggrin: Without being too lyrical I would just want to say that Yuzuru is really someone who can do emotional and subtle intensity. The rawness of emotions of R&J1 together with the subtlety of H&L would for me be an amazing program. Didn't someone describe him as a powerful and beautiful skater? I really think he could pull this music off wonderfully - but yes like Lambari said - good idea with a mix so it is not too repetitive
 
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I love this https://twitter.com/chimayu0909/status/833303745723191298
He and the mascots have an especial bond:rofl: And he looks so handsome in that suit

Yuzu and little girl :love:

Johnny tweeted
Yuzuru Hanyu fought so hard for the top free skate at Four Continents! Such a breathless and beautiful display.


https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/833267050109755394

Runrun's mental image of 4T and 3A as characters XD 4T says "you called?" 3A "time to work?"



After that glorious performance I am actually in a good mood :biggrin: hope everyone is having a good day!

So the interview specs translated in the FS thread

He will brush up (his skills) even more, I think, so I will need to do the same. As it was with the Sochi olympics, nothing is certain. I may try the lutz or the flip, or even maybe the axel. So I'm really looking forward to skating from now. And Looking forward to training too.

He is totally talking about the 4F and the 4A isn't he?


The close up of his 3F today looks good: http://i.giphy.com/n7aE6jfdXE8IE.gif
Slight inside edge. :laugh: so maybe he can do 4F flat edge lol
He really has improved his Flip. I am happy.

"It seems Helsinki Worlds should be on fire.

And Pyeongchang should be on fire too (what a fearless smile!)"

https://twitter.com/M1Z_tyz/status/833197755602341889




 
Also generally I would love him to do something instrumental that is more string-driven :) with the prefect piece and a lot of emphasis on edge work it can be like basically "playing" the instrument - in a perfect world ;)

I really liked Yuna's version and performance of Send in the Clowns, not for Yuzuru but something that fits in a similar way if that makes sense? Something with a powerful violin, cello or even better viola *very partial*
 
I mean if we are suggesting music I absolutely love this: https://youtu.be/_VONMkKkdf4?t=1m48s - I have cut to where the "drama" really begins so plz try it, but the whole piece is AMAZING. It is subtle, dramatic, emotional and just... I can't :palmf:

Of course it is done by Laurine already, but I would imagine a bit of a different cut of it - a bit more of the emotional intensity for Yuzuru perhaps :biggrin:. I'm including a link to Laurine's performance of it (the b.esp guys love it and she's also upped the tech for it so I'm hoping for great things for Worlds for her and the program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD15HYNkV1c)

edited because I forgot the last (bracket) which is unforgivable, I will just let myself out - I'm so so sorry

i love this one...:love:
 
PAge 3636 - 3640 (Feb 19-20 ; 4CC)

Yuzu preoccupied with playing with the mascots at banquet

Space Kitten does like hugs and soft fluffy things.


With Maisy Ma

Some newspaper clippings:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]

how figure skaters (or rather yuzu and misha) spend their time at galas:

taking derp pictures bunny ears and comparing arm lengths :rofl:

Yuzuru's FS fancams.

One for the EX. Hopefully there will be more.

More:

FS - (1)

EX - (1), (2)

Pooh rain.

LMFAO One of the Pooh fell exactly on one of the flower girl's head at 5:21.

It doesn't top when it knocked Yuzuru's own's head and almost his butt tho, this was legendary, never forget.


hey guys what does Yuzu say in the green room? could someone translate? https://twitter.com/yukiya_yuzu/status/833335717606469632
Watching Nathan: Woooaaah,
I may not win----
I want the gold, the gold... (results come in ) wail of dispaaair
It was the Salchow, the salchow pop.

His reactions are so honest. One of the reasons I love him.

thank you. here is longer version https://twitter.com/yukiya_yuzu/status/833460003457507328
sorry if it was already posted

Additional, 'Why can't I win??':biggrin:



I'm sorry for the double post, as i can't edit them on my phone, but did he really say "This is a 'losing pattern'"? Aww Yuzu
Something like that, I'm not sure how to translate that with the nuance to English.


Dasani T from youtube uploaded the NBC version of the SP to google drive, since it's blocked on youtube.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByzF-8PR6gAIUm1jbUNZTktZbEU/view



Apparently when Yuzuru was introduced for his EX, it went like this :laugh:
"The skater with the largest collection of POOH TOYS, from Japan --> Yuzuru Hanyu!"
「プーのぬいぐるみのコレクションを最も多く持っているスケーター、日本の」→「Yuzuru HANYU!」

Got to love those flower girls...I'm :laugh2: at Yuzu's reaction.

Yuzu's waist is so tiny :laugh:...the video clip of that moment

Translation by Sophie Moroi @YHIFG FB of a special 4CC interview with Yuzuru yesterday.
Quote Originally Posted by Sophie Moroi
My quick translation of all Yuzuru’s comments of this 30 mins special sports news. Phew, it was LOOOOONG! Please note that the numbers at the beginning below correspond to the time when Yuzuru commented during the video.

Original video of the new programme

1) (0’00” to 1’25”) Well, I am filled with frustrating feeling. But I think I was able to execute the FP performance relatively well, so I think I made some achievement. (As regards your earlier phrase of ‘real quads era’) Yes, both Mr. Chen who was the first and Mr. Uno who was the third jumped a wide variety of quads and they both bravely challenged 3As, too. So I do feel that we have entered into a difficult era which demands difficult kinds of quads to be executed with a high quality. (It is a challenging era) but I am enjoying it

2) (6’40” to 7’05”) (At the K&C to Brian), yay, I managed to land 4 quads and two 3As!! (At the green room, Shoma said to Yuzuru that it was awesome and I got surprised!) Yeah, I did them for the first time; I had never done that even during practice, hee, hee!

3) (8’05” – 8’35”) (at the green room, after Nathan’s FP) Ahhh, I might not be able to beat that. Oh this makes me feel so nervous; the colour of the medal will change. I want gold, a gold medal, give me gold! (after Nathan was announced to be the winner) AAAAGGGHHHH!!!! (Walking towards the backstage) it’s because of the popped salchow, popped salchow!!!

4) (8’55” – 13’26”) Yes, I do feel frustrated, but I have managed to execute two 4Ts in the second half for the first time as I attempted, which is an achievement. Also, I managed to keep my calmness at the same time of performing in line with the music, so I think that was a big achievement for me. (When did you think of changing the elements?) Well, so first, 4S (in the second half) became 2S. After doing a half-loop, I thought of challenging 4S (as a third jump of the combination) but I thought it’s a bit too difficult, so I didn’t. (The interviewer confirming what he said) Yes, indeed I did think of doing 4S (as the third jump), because I was able to do it during practice, so I was about to do it, but I didn’t. After that, I concentrated on the next 4T, then at (the next element which was) 3A+3T (though originally 2T), I was doing a practice to replace this (combination) with 4S, so it came to my mind if I should do it, but I didn’t. And after that, as for 4T+2T (which replaced 3A+1L+3S which was the originally planned element), I found that I had some energy left, so I thought ‘oh let’s do 4T + 2T!’ and I did it. (So, you were thinking and changing right before jumping at one time) Yes, indeed, I felt several conundrum and wondered at each situation, and I had lots of reflection. I had to think of lots of things including the number of combinations or repetitions according to the rules, so it (changing so many elements during the performance) was the first trial for me, so I was skating with lots of thoughts. (At the end, you did 3A) yes, I was going to do 3Lz, but I noticed that I could jump 3A, so I did it as it seemed possible. Yes, so I was thinking one by one, while feeling the music, too, so I didn’t feel much difficulty and I think my breathing was stable during skating. (As for 4Lo), especially this time, I was able to land clean 4Lo both in SP and FP with high GOEs, so in this sense, it was such a big achievement. In addition, especially this time as well as the last time (probably GPF?), I think I was able to concentrate on every jump after executing the first 4Lo, especially in the FP. So the remaining task is for me to learn from every mistake I made during this SP and FP. (About 4S), Well, my condition for 4S is not bad; (but) this time at the competitions, I couldn’t land two 4Ss, so to be honest, I was about to lose my confidence (in 4S), and it made me a bit wonder. But I am able to execute (4S) properly during practice, and my real ability has already mastered how to jump 4S. So, I think I should work harder towards the World while confirming (checking and working on each of his mistakes and problems) one by one. (About your PCS at 94.34), well, I think I could have done better. Because of the failure of 4S, my performance got ruptured, which I have to improve. That (4S) is one of the elements I could aim higher in terms of TES, too. (As for your rivals) Well, especially the multiplicity of quads and 3A of Mr. Chen is a big thing. I myself have two 3As in the second half, but Mr. Chen was not originally good at 3A, so in that sense, I am amazed with and admire his mental strength. (Finally as for the Worlds) I have already achieved a complete form of performances during practice, so I would like to increase the probability of executing such complete performances, so that I can execute perfect performances at the Worlds. (nodding )

5) (14’15” – 14’ 45”) (At the earlier press conference at the venue), I think I am getting better every year, and what I do has been getting harder and harder. I very much like this feeling that I am challenging my own limits. I think this silver medal is the one I have most enjoyed (as far as silver medals at 4CC are concerned). From now on, we have no idea who will challenge jumping 4Lz or 4F, and there is a possibility that someone will challenge 4A. So, I find the (current development of) the figure-skating so exciting, and I am looking forward to practicing even more.

6) (15’50” – 17’25”) (Do you have anything you have found as a pre-Olympic?) Yes, I do. It (the rink) was easy for me to jump, at a comfortable temperature, and the sound acoustic was quite good. So I feel it is a very good rink for me. (Are you even more excited?) Yes, I do have a strong desire that I would like to come back and skate here, by all means. (About yourself in 1 year time) I would like to become even stronger. Not only executing jumps, but also I would like to elevate the quality of 3A and quads. While doing so, I should do more performance, become more expressive, and improve the quality of each element. All these things. So, all in all, this competition has stimulated my desire to improve myself even more, in a good sense. (I feel your frustration as well as passion from you now) Yes, indeed, I am burning inside me (In terms of rivals) Of course, the existence of rivals counts, but I rather have frustrating feeling that my own performance was quite pathetic. So I would like to clear one (problem) at each time.

7) (30’55” – 31’45” ) (After his EX performance) Aww, it was such an awful exhibition performance. I did practice it, I was doing practice properly. Well, it’s a little hard (because of so many events with short intervals in a day). Now I realise that triple toeloop [he intentionally said slowly] is a difficult jump. I should have done 3F, which I did practice. OMG, this is awful, it haunts me a lot. My frustration with FP is now gone. No, it’s OK; there is one more time, one more time, one more time; there is the Finale.

8) (33’10” - end ) (Message to all fans) Thank you so much for all your cheers for me during this competition as well. From all of you who came to the venue, those cheering for me in front of the TV as well as those watching on internet (!!), I received lots of lots of power. In terms of the final result, it ended up with being 2nd, but I sorely feel that the reason why my PF was the first is because of all your encouragement. I will continue to elevate my level and do my best from now on, so please keep cheering for me!

END

 
I just one to add one more remark.
I find that among the skaters of Team Japan, Yuzuru seems to me the most open, the most easygoing, the most westernized if I can say so, but at the same time the most very Japanese, traditional at heart. He lives in Canada many months in a year, trains with Canadian coachs, Canadian chroregraphers, in a Canadian skating club with Canadian and international skaters. He always interacts with other skaters in Exhibition, shows openly his support and encouragement to his competitors, be it Javier, Nathan or others, shows openly his emotions win or lose, in good sporting spirit, always smiling, laughing, always natural. I don't know much about others skaters in the past of Team Japan, but I think he stands out with his natural manners, not shyness or calmness like the other skaters. But on the other hand, he choose to skate the most often with Japanese music that he chooses himself, more often than other Japanese skaters, be it in competition programs or in Exhibition. Other skaters of Team Japan will skate to music chosen for them by their coach and choreographer.
I do hope that he will choose the music with the help and advice of his coach too, to have both ways is good too.
 
Also generally I would love him to do something instrumental that is more string-driven :) with the prefect piece and a lot of emphasis on edge work it can be like basically "playing" the instrument - in a perfect world ;)

I really liked Yuna's version and performance of Send in the Clowns, not for Yuzuru but something that fits in a similar way if that makes sense? Something with a powerful violin, cello or even better viola *very partial*

:points: Yes for violin.

I'm listening to other pieces by the same composer and loving a lot of them til now. Some seem straight from a Chiddy playlist. This one is gorgeous, and these too but maybe not for skating.
 
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Since we're talking about Olympic music, here are my takes, Rachmaninov-edition. :)

SP:
Danse Hongroise, imagine the male equivalent of Yuna Kim's Danse Macabre. Commanding, exciting, and a bit devious. Trills and thrills. :) 3:45 onward is the step sequence of course.
(I have a slower version 6:00 version on CD that I think is better than this youtube link, but it will do.)

LP:
What better than the bombastic and uplifting ending of Piano Concerto no.3. Olympic-moment music, Lori Nichol knew what was up.

Gala:
NordEsque upthread mentioned cello, and I completely agree, so: sweet, romantic Rachmaninov prelude in f for cello and piano. Just imagine building up to an ina bauer from 2:50 to 3:00 onwards. 3:40-4:00 could be a waltz jump-1A-3A series. If I had time to video edit I would, I think it would be so perfect and tear-inducing.
 
Elgar? As far as I know nobody ever skated to Elgar. So under-rated but one of my favorite pieces of music - listen to the whole thing, it is divine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQL2wh-o69U
:love:

Gave it a listen - very beautiful piece! Especially at 1.00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQL2wh-o69U and when it becomes more emotional at 3.16 and 4.44 and 5.00 :agree2: I imagine very difficult to skate to though, and it is very ebb and flow, which can be great if made right but can easily go wrong I suspect
 
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Video of Raf asking for Yuzu's autograph
Around 5:55



He finally got his Free Skate gold medal as well :biggrin: https://twitter.com/GeumNa/status/833313609396547584 (From Goom*사대륙's twitter)

More pictures from Misha's IG: "Caption this" , Guys in purple


Nice to see Brian in medal ceremony . I think they laughed when Yuzuru was announced as second place.
Alternative title for this video would be 'Poor Shoma'. He's pushed back when all the flower girls want to hold hand with Yuzu, good guy Misha in the rescue, and when taking photo he was invisible swarmed by girld flocked over Yuzu.
Yuzuru is sure popular with the little girls.


Not sure if this has been posted already but here's a LOTTE chocolate commercial featuring Yuzu and Mao. Also shows some behind the scenes stuff.

https://www.facebook.com/iceskatiingworld/videos/1934438523452241/

Looks like it would be bad for international (since i did vote too haha) productivity if Yuzuru married! He is currently in first place of the poll in which they ask people which celebrity would shock them the most to the point of taking a day off of work if they married...

https://twitter.com/hidetanmama/status/833355966347292673?s=09

And here's Yuzu stretching and doing laybacks before Notte Stellata.... I glare daggers into the camera blocking part of the view.................

I found a lot of new articles published on Monday. Though I cannot translate the whole text, I want to share some of Yuzu's comments in these articles which seem not to have been shared in this thread. My translation is rough with some paraphrasing and probably gramatical mistakes, but these 3 articles were very interesting. Wish someone with better skill could translate the whole text...


[フィギュア]羽生「一番楽しかった銀」 17歳新ライバルと激闘 / 中日スポーツ
(Figure skating: "Most enjoyable silver" says Hanyu, after the heated battle with 17 year-old new rival / Chunichi Sports)
http://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/sports/news/CK2017022002000133.html

About getting silver in pre-Olympic event:
「ソチ五輪のときも負けている。2位だったんで、ゲン担ぎとしてはいいんです」。実はソチ五輪のプレ大会だ った12年のグランプリファイナルも2位だった。五輪連覇に向けて悲観材料は何もない。"]「ソチ五輪のときも負けている。2位だったんで、ゲン担ぎとしてはいいんです」。実はソチ五輪のプレ大会だ った12年のグランプリファイナルも2位だった。五輪連覇に向けて悲観材料は何もない。
"I lost in Sochi too. I was second in that competition, so it is good as an omen." Actually he was second at GPF 2012, a pre-Olympic event held in Sochi. There is no reason to be pessimistic about winning consecutive Olympic title.


四大陸男子でトップ3人が生んだ名勝負。羽生結弦の貫禄と、才能溢れる若き2人。/ Number web
(Epic battle produced by the top 3 in men's event of 4CC. Hanyu's dignity, and talented young skaters.)
http://number.bunshun.jp/articles/-/827472?page=1

About what was on his mind before free skating:
「この滑走順は本当に得意で、5番、6番って非常に自信をもって試合に臨むことができていました。それプラ ス、公式練習から6分間練習の間の時間が短いことによって、本番の感覚がより研ぎ澄まされていたということ があった。だから自信があったし、自信があってリラックスしているプラス、ジャンプに対する執念とか、勝ち にこだわる気持ちだとかそういうものがいい具合にバランスよくなっていたのかなという気持ちが あります」
"I am very good at skating 5th or 6th, so the starting order gave me huge confidence going into the free. Short interval between the official practice and 6 minute warm-up also kept my senses sharp for the real thing. So I was confident, relaxed, plus desperately wanted to land all the jumps and win. Probably all of these created a good balance."


羽生結弦、チェンに惜敗も大きな収穫。「4回転5本が視野に入った」/ Web Sportiva
(Despite being defeated by Chen by a narrow margin, Hanyu made a big gain. "Now 5-quads free program is in sight.")
https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/02/20/post_5/index.php

About 5-quads free program:
また、この試合のもうひとつの収穫は、パンクしたサルコウを含めて「5本の4回転にトライできたこと」だと いう。

「トリプルアクセルを2本というのは絶対に(演技構成から)外したくないので、4回転を5本にするにはもう 1種類の4回転を跳ばなければいけない。だから、その意味ではまだ現実的ではないなと思います」と言いなが らも、「それ(4回転5本)が視野に入った感覚はある」とも言う。

「今は、年々技術的な難易度を上げていく過程で、まだ自分の演技を完成できていない。その意味では、若い選 手に突き上げられる恐怖感と戦っているのではないですし、ここで1位になっても3位になっても追うべきもの がたくさんあると思います。とにかく自分の完成形を試合で出したいという気持ちが強いです。その点では、自 分はもっともっとレベルアップできるんだと感じられる試合でした」

Another thing he gained from this competition was an experience of "attempting 5 quads in FP" including the popped Salcow.

He said, "I don't want to exclude two triple-axels from my free program, then I have to include another type of quad to jump 5 quads in it. Taking that into account, 5-quads FP is not yet realistic." However, he also said, "I feel that it's in sight now."

"Now I'm in the process of upgrading difficulty each year, and still trying to make my performance perfect. In that sense, I'm not driven by the fear of being chased by younger skaters. Even if I was in 1st or 3rd place in this competition, I would have a lot to pursue. I just want to present a full version of me in competition. In that respect, this competition made me feel that I can still improve."

Does anyone have a link to a video of his FS at 4cc? Youtube's already copyrighted them
Those on dailymotion should still be there: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cj8zv_yuzuru-hanyu-fs-2017-4cc-ja_sport

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cktz5_yh-4cc17-fs-esp-ita_sport

Max had totally got the fact that Yuzu wanted to add a 4S at the end of that euler. I also love how he and Angelo are excited at the sight of Yuzu changing things around in his programme at the end. They just can't believe he even did that perfect 3A at the end. Gotta love these guys.


Piper posted the Pooh rain. I can't seem to find it on her instagram though, maybe she posted on other social media.


It seems that Pooh rain is some trademark from chinese fans, everytime there's a competition in China or anywhere with a significant chinese audience the number of poohs multiply by 330. :dance2:



Max says it is a rightful victory on the part of Nathan, however he questions the way the components have been marked (I think he thinks it has been a bit too generous for Nathan and a bit too low for Yuzu because before the marks for Yuzu came out he was expecting at least a 96). All in all he says it's a shame Yuzu hasn't been able to win all the major competitions in his career since he still hasn't won the 4CC but that it wasn't for lack of trying because he gave his all in the free. Angelo and he finish by saying that it is still a competition to remember as it doesn't happen that often to have two competitors with a total score of more than 300.

o.o I tried to catch up with this thread but there are way too many new posts hahaha
I'm still super tired from Sunday (mostly because getting back to Seoul was an ordeal and I got a cold :()

Anyway, Sunday was my first ever live figure skating show! It was amazing and I'm happy I went haha. I cannot believe people are getting so caught up in the Nathan hype they are acting like Yuzuru is about to be put out to pasture. I think on Sunday he proved that he is not past his peak at all, he might be having a bit of a weird season with illness and his 4s combos being voodooed but I'm actually pretty excited about the younger skaters presenting themselves as rivals and things getting crazy amongst the top skaters. Judging from how hard he fought at the FS and things he's said after the competition, the rise of Nathan (and Shoma I guess, and Boyang in a lesser way) seems to motivate him. I'm excited to see how he does at Worlds.
It was definitely exciting to watch him. I'm still a newbie so I can't tell many jumps apart yet, but his comeback after popping his combo was amazing to watch even for someone clueless like me XD I'm going to study up, I entered the lottery for Olympic tickets but my friend has been recruiting people to enter for us too so I think I'm technically entered like 5 times, I want to be able to differentiate technical components by then XD

I got pictures! ^^ Here, Here and Here.

I only took pictures during the warm up because I wanted to focus on watching the skate haha. I got nothing during the exhibition for the same reason (I'm kinda sad he was disappointed with his exhibition because it's probably my favourite routine of his and I was nearly crying in the crowd I was so happy to watch it live, he is totally mesmerising and honestly, he could do absolutely no jumps at all and still be breathtaking to watch. His exhibition proves why he is the best for me, his skating is just so beautiful, emotive and graceful, nobody compares).

Yuzu was super popular haha the waterfall of pooh bears after his free skate was hilarious to see. I wonder what he does with the gifts afterwards? If he keeps all the poohs he could probably build a house out of them.

ETA: I am totally baffled by the B.ESP commentary. They make it sound like he's on a big decline and hasn't been doing well for a while when he only set the world records for sp, lp and combined scores last season, is only 22 years old so is young and has potentially years of skating ahead of him (if he wants) and scored over 300 combined again with even though he popped 2 jumps and was pretty much making up the second half of his lp as he was going along. Personally, I like that there's not just one skater who is winning everything and there's a good 5-6? skaters that could potentially get on the podium at any given competition, but people need to remember that mistakes in a programme or placement in one competition does not stop anyone from being one of the best skaters out there. And Yuzuru is one of the best, arguably, ever.
 
:points: Yes for violin.

I'm listening to other pieces by the same composer and loving a lot of them til now. Some seem straight from a Chiddy playlist. This one is gorgeous, and these too but maybe not for skating.

Yes! This is so great :biggrin: Night and Life are amazing, I'm sure Night could be made 'skateable' - perhaps in combo with Life and aforementioned Experience? Your 'cut' into Night is at the exact right place I think
 
Yes! This is so great :biggrin: Night and Life are amazing, I'm sure Night could be made 'skateable' - perhaps in combo with Life and aforementioned Experience? Your 'cut' into Night is at the exact right place I think

Lol Yep, I started the video from there on purpose. :laugh:

The combo you mentioned seems wonderful. Someone needs to make a Ludovico Einaudi free skate using two of more of compositions from him asap, I if it's Yuzuru even better I guess. I don't think this is the type of program most would consider for Olympics though, some of these pieces have a melancolic feel more suited for a farewell/end of competitive career program that leaves that bittersweet feeling. If someone still is a contender for OGM I think something more bombastic would be better. Now I'm having strange visions of Yuzuru skating to these at some competition like Worlds 2019 for optimal heartbreak factor. lmao not that he confirmed to retire by then or anything, i'm just imagining because I like to suffer
 
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Lol Yep, I started the video from there on purpose. :laugh:

The combo you mentioned seems wonderful. Someone needs to make a Ludovico Einaudi free skate using two of more of compositions from him asap, I if it's Yuzuru even better I guess. I don't think this is the type of program most would consider for Olympics though, some of these pieces have a melancolic feel more suited for a farewell/end of competitive career program that leaves that bittersweet feeling. If someone still is a contender for OGM I think something more bombastic would be better. Now I'm having strange visions of Yuzuru skating to these at some competition like Worlds 2019 for optimal heartbreak factor. lmao not that he confirmed to retire by them or anything, i'm just imagining because I like to suffer

:biggrin: Or I would put Experience as primary, starting about here: https://youtu.be/_VONMkKkdf4?t=1m59s and make it a very emotionally driven program - more intense in a.... oh I don't know how to describe it - more chasing-kind-of-way I guess? More like attacking the emotionality of the moment? If that makes any sense? :palmf: (would love the strings to lead the momentum) Don't want it to be too sad, just very strong and emotional. And then add Night https://youtu.be/k9NM-yK1C2I as introduction or to make it more of a 'story'? Like aiming for an rawness of emotions with Experience and using Night to mute it a bit and make it more like a narrative?

Edit - sorry changed my mind - much better to start around here https://youtu.be/_VONMkKkdf4?t=1m51s

I'm not even going to acknowledge that Yuzuru might stop skating, we can't all be as strong as you :laugh:
 
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Yuzuru in MCM's video - from 02.15, and then again from 02:57.

Sihyeong Lee aka the rhinestoned denim cowboy that I nourished for 9 months did a really short comment about Yuzuru in some news piece.
"I think Hanyu is from a different planet," Lee said after watching the Japanese skater's performance.
I really raised him well.
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FS Warm up fancam.

Russian Eurosport 4CC 2017 SP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMHmAR1mpzs

- There it begins, dear friends. Yuzuru Hanyu, 22-year old figure skater,... oof
- The record holder
- The record holder of everything. He holds the record in the SP 110.95, which he showed in the GPF last season, the record in the FP in the same GPF 219.48, and understandably, the overall record. This program looked weird, not his program when he first showed it. But then when he started to skate it well as in Marseille GPF, it produced a radically different impression. Let's Go Crazy by Prince.
- He does 4Lo, with a lean, but he pulls it off! The judges added generous GOE to the base value - 12+2.
(before the combination) Now he has to control himself. There was a mistake here during the warmup.
- Well yeah, did you see?
- The same, single and double (???)
- He carried the mistake into the programme.
- He finishes with a unique penultimate spin position - first time I've seen it. Well, Hanyu is Hanyu still, no matter how he jumped - the skating is still his.
- There's a question emerging - if these young superjumpers with 6-7 quads beat him, is there justice in it? He shows sublime skating skills - these crazy 2 minutes 50 he's shown here, his crazily light and natural-looking footwork, lunges, transitions from these lunges...
- People can't dance in the ballroom floors like that!
- ... transitions from lunges into spins - crazy things! 49.50, by the way - and he lost 10 points BV by failing to do 4Sa. A single sal is 0.4, a quad is 10.5 - so he loses 10 points, and had he done it, he'd have received positive GOE, as ever, so he lost not just 10, but around 12 points.
- on the other hand, it's very hard to win always, it's a lot of pressure, it's hard to imagine what pressure they're under, these skaters who have been around fighting for gold medals all these years.
- Yes, you're right, perhaps that's why he lost two World Championships to Fernandez. But the situation is that this pre-Olympic season Hanyu has no right to lose the World Championship.
- If he fails to do the quads, he falls, mistakes everyone can see - the judges can't save him. The components are going to be great
- Crazy PCS. It's clear that he should shorten on the the technical points gap between himself and Nathan Chen with his components... he'll get over 9 points in every aspect there, which means that he should win around 5 points in components. He won't 10 points behind - it should be around 5 points. Nathan Chen has 103.12, but let's remember we have Patrick Chen, Boyang Jin and Shoma Uno later.
- And Misha Ge, btw.
- Well, Misha Ge doesn't have two quads unlike Shoma Uno. And neither does Patrick Chan. And Boyang Jin has 4Lz and 4To.
- He's 6 points behind. He's second. He's so happy - Yuzuru Hanyu is always demanding to himself and he's always self-critical.

Russian Eurosport 4CC 2017 FS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psfSKj7aeYk

These numbers I give - 203-204 - are the points which male skater should now strive for in order to win. Yuzuru Hanyu's record of 219.48 is just unbelievable, Fernandez has 216 under his belt, so one should get from 205 to 210 in the FP. OK, here we go - Yuzuru Hanyu! 3 position after the short, 6 points behind Nathan Chen. Can he eliminate the gap? He has to skate 6 points better than Nathan Chen who showed a fantastic skate at the Nationals with five quads.
A stunning start - 4Lo! 14 and something. Oh, 14.00. 2 points to the BV. 4Sa, well-done! Great - that has been the most problematic quad lately! 26 points for two quads.
Brian Orser at the boards - applauding cautiously.
The girls were performing to the music of Hisaishi's Princess Mononoke, Hanyu took a different tune of the same Japanese composer.
Yuzuru's gaining speed... Salchow quad... ARRRGH - only double!
Double and single! He was to have jumped a quad sal in combination with 3To. He loses a lot! He's already lost 10 points on it.
4To. Clean, very well! He's jumped three quads out of four planned.
As usual, a fantastic 3A with a 3To in combination. There should be a loop here (the commentators make a mistake - there should have been a 3A), no, there won't be a loop here. One more quad! Wow! Instead of 3Lo he jumps a 4To-2To combination and he pulls it off!
3A right at the end of the program! Unbelievable! Instead of 3Lz!
That was just an incredible skate he's shown. I've only one association - 112.53, just have a look - an association: when one learns a foreign language and they master a certain level of it, they start living freely in that alien language, and it's just invaluable when you find synonyms, change constructions, are able to create something in that foreign language - it becomes your own language. This skate was something like for Yuzuru Hanyu - what everyone else trains, the element which demands efforts from the others has become his own native element for him, and so he can change it on the fly, he can try one jump, he fails it, and he changes the quad, he changes for something more difficult -and he does it while he's skating! Which means he has such resources of strength, of freedom in technically superdemanding elements that he easily creates a program anew - not the way it was conceived, but the way he performs it now. Unbelievable!
Let's see it. The start - 4Lo, rotated and successful, with good GOE, 4Sal, a bit tense, but it's a quad, it's not going to be easy for Hanyu or Nathan Chen. Then 3F - just a passing element in his program, though it's worth 5.3. Then he fails to jump a 4Sa3To, he only does 2-1. Then he does 4To, and then he does 3A with 3To, not with 2To, as he had planned, and then he does not 3A3Sa, he jumps 4To in combination with 2To, and then he understands he has this 3A in reserve which he puts instead of the lutz right at the end. So instead of the 3Lz (BV 6.0, or 6.6 in the second half) he pulls off a 3A (8.5 BV, 9.35 in the second half). An incredible skate! Hanyu is a genius on the ice. It's hard to find words after this: it's not just a competition, it's an ultimate example of creativity. One could say that he tried five quads and pulled off four of them if one counts in that 2Sal, which we all know should have been a 4Sal. Now he's showing to Brian Orser "I didn't do that, so I...", he's explaining to Orser what he was thinking of, how he counted all of it, how he added all up and changed the layout! 206.67 - not a record! But it's a challenge to Nathan Chen - there you are, do what you can!


Medal ceremony fancams, (1), (2), (3)

Other Gala finale fancams. Those girls reaction when he looked at them at 7:34 tho, lmfao.

New fancams of the EX.

The Layla Hong one tho, i'm on the floor. :dbana:


But regardless of how much he hated his own performance XD:

@koron00314
Hanyu made a fan out of the Korean tour bus guide. "I didn't know anything about figure skating, but I thought, 'the Swan!' He was so refined and elegant, for me he is number 1. Thanks to all of you, I'm able to see this performance." Everybody in the bus clapped
.

So there was that ^

And there's this from @Ksho_gun (terrible and barely accurate translations, sorry, but I also couldn't help giggling)
Only now, thinking about the feelings of 4T, I feel like crying. A beautiful weapon of unparalleled trustworthiness (consistency, but since we’re going the quad-morph route), the 4T had been devoted to Hanyu for many years. Although it’s been a little driven away due to family circumstances (4s3t hm? glares), it stayed steadfastly by Hanyu’s side without a single word of complaint. At a pinch, it comes out without reservation, “Don’t be scared. Don’t think. Use me.” I am in love.
Quad-morphing is a theme now!

Awesome fancam because it has the elements and the respective detailed scoring for them appearing at the screen.

i don't know if someone (or myself) already posted though. i'm getting lost in these fancams, i'm in paradise.

Ok, I also want take a moment to talk about japanese figure skating news because, my god, isn't it great. There's not only +10 min in several channels of it, but they also make competitions sound like it's a life or death battle when it's freaking 4CC. Like, these ones and more.

Most of them are so dramatic, it's my everything. Even after years I'll never get tired of it. The technnical analysis are also great.

Ahhhhhhhhh I've been waiting for this waiting for this waiting for this. Nobu! :yahoo::hap10::hap57: (sorry 4CC cycle not over until I've heard Nobu gush about Yuzu) http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cn5kj_2-21-%E7%B9%94%E7%94%B0%E4%BF%A1%E6%88%90%E3%81%8C%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%8B-%E5%9B%9B%E5%A4%A7%E9%99%B8-%E7%BE%BD%E7%94%9F%E9%81%B8%E6%89%8B-%E5%89%8D%E4%BA%BA%E6%9C%AA%E5%88%B0%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AB%E3%83%90%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC_sport

(Nobu talking extremely fast, lapsing into kansai accent in the middle. :laugh: pls feel free to correct)
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(Hanyu came in second place at 4CC...)
N: It's second place, but it was fruitful second place! You saw the recovery in the free, right? The awesomeness?! He did the quads, and then changed the layout! Right before the 4T2T, he did a 3A and then right at the very end again he did another 3A! It's... it's an unprecedented recovery!
(That kind of recovery, only the legend...)
N cuts in: Only the legend can do it! On top of that, how calmly he dealt with it, all the while he's skating! Oh the awesomeness! But Nathan, another quadster, blocked him and he ended up in second place. The regret he feels has to be huge! But regret is a great motivator for Hanyu! So we can look forward to that regret, combined with confidence from having achieved that amazing recovery, to put him in a very good mindset for Worlds.
(That's why you said it was a fruitful second.)
N: That's right! Of course he would have wanted to win, but I think it was an extremely fruitful second place.

Not sure if these have been shared yet but some of the last of the 4CC fancams:

Crystal-clear footage of the LP (and Yuzu doing #emergencyquad math on the way off)

Before and after the EX. That 3T haunting him at the end :biggrin:

I read an old interview (from February 2016) with Brian Orser, a Hungarian journalist made this during EC 2016 in Bratislava. Most parts are about Yuzu and Javier training together, the communication with Yuzu, and the quad-craze. I don't think there are many new things in it, but I made a rough translation, and I hope you guys enjoy it. :)
Brian Orser: "We have to understand the system"

Q: Now, two out of the three best male skaters are your students: Yuzuru Hanyu and Javier Fernandez. It seems like that they are very different characters.

BO: Yes, they are. They are very different, and because of this, I think it is easier to them. They are good teammates, they are friendly with each other on the ice and they respect each other. They don’t go together to cinema or to a party, because Yuzu is not that type, he rather stays at home to study, becase he goes to university.
Their style, their temperament are different, and I have to know both of them very well. I have to understand how they feel in certain moments. I emphasise to my students that communication is the key. If they don’t like something, then they have to tell me, and if I don’t like something, then obviously I tell them too. They have to tell me what is going on in their lives, then I don’t have to guess. I don’t have time to guess. We have to find out the problems and then try to solve them. Anyway their schedules are different, sometimes they skate together, sometimes they not.

Q: It is said that Yuzuru Hanyu barely understood English when he went to Toronto, but it only turned out later…

BO: Yes, because he was constantly nodding and saying: „Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yeah.” Since then I know that „Yeah, yeah, yeah” means: NO.

Q: Was it difficult to communicate with him?

BO: Very much. Now I can comfortably ask him: „Yuzu, are you sure that you understand what I’m saying?” Because it happens that I tell him to jump a flip, and then he jumps a loop. But he keeps nodding the whole time. Now he speaks English better, so the communication is easier, and it is also natural that I ask him that he understands everything.

Q: Did you use an interpreter?

BO: No, but the language of figure skating is universal. The technical things can be discussed easily. The situation is more difficult if it’s about strategies and plans. I want to explain to them everything, so that they will understand why we train in some way or in another on a certain day.

Q: How important is to you that your students score 100+ in the short and 200+ in the free program?

BO:: It seems like it is the biggest motive in this season. It all began with Yuzu at the NHK Trophy, and it continued in the Grand Prix Final, but there also Javi skated very well and got more than 200 points.

Q: Do Javi and Yuzu inspire each other?

BO: Extremely, and they respect each other very much. If they train together, Javi fells and Yuzu is near to him, he always stops and helps him to get up. In the beginning of the season, Javi had struggled with his free program, especially with the last 45 seconds of it, which is really killing (?). Yuzu stood there with the other skaters and coach and kept clapping and shouting: „Go Javi, go Javi!”. But it’s the same vice versa. If Yuzu fells, Javi helps him to get up. Before the start of the season, when Yuzu was practicing the three quads, he couldn’t succeed with the third one, the second quad toe. He couldn’t find the rhythm at all. Then at the end he asked Javi: „Javi, how can you jump the third quad?” Javi replied the following: „Yuzu, just shut it off your brain. Don’t think about it. Just breathe, and do it, but don’t think.” And after this Yuzu started to jump those quad toes successfully. So they work together very well. I think, it also gives them some kind of comfort: if you train together with someone with whom you go the the big event, to the Olympics, to the world championships, then it is a good feeling that there is someone with you who went through the same just like you did.

Q: Javi said in Bratislava that it’s possible that the triples will soon disappear from figure skating, or that the ISU will have a rule that only three quads will be allowed in the free skating. In your opinion, in which direction is this sport going?

BO: One day triples may be gone. In my time, people had swooned from triple axels, the media went crazy too. I jumped a 3A during training and everyone went crazy. Now it is a completely natural thing. It is incredible, how many things happenned in 25 years. So, who knows what will happen in the next 25 years


Judge number 4, Mexico.
Judge number 1, Australia.
(AUS, USA, CHN, MEX, NZL, CAN, TPE, KOR, JPN)

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1617/fc2017/fc2017_Men_FS_Scores.pdf

LMFAO This. Is "Winnie the Pooh situation" going to be an official FS term? :rofl:


Yuzuru plus Patrick
. I suppose Patrick is teaching Yuzuru the formation for the high fives at the finale. :love: Forever my weakness.

H&L step sequence detailed. most is in japanese though, but it doesn't matter because close up of skating feet !1!!1

Does anyone know what Fumie says about Yuzuru here? The title says something about "friendly" and there's a drawing of a beer at the screen, so let's just say I'm curious.
I didn't rewatch the video, but basically she said he was the only one who's friendly to her, as opposed to the others who would tiptoe around her because she's so senior.
Also a bunch about how he's S in character, and she's M in character.... but ... :slink:

Also, does anyone know if there's a video of Mai Mihara's open mouth when Yuzuru had his FS yolo moments? I saw a picture of that but not the news piece of where this is from. Thanks!

Here you are, from 6:30.
 
I don't want to think that he will retire after OG 2018. I just know his existence the end of last year.. I'm so lateeee ;-;
 
Well, I prefer him to skate something that connect to him emotionally.
Something like Seimei or H&L, something unique and in remarkable Hanyu style.

Chopin is too normal, indeed it's not very personal.
 
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