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4CC LP, CCTV5 commentary
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30668886

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A little excerpt here from CCTV commentators :)

Lady: Wow, that's a spectacular performance. Can't say it is perfect, but to me, after having seen this performance, I can understand why some judges think GOE +3 is not enough and they want +5.
Man: Some of his elements, compared to those that had gotten +1, +2 put out by other skaters... to give him +3, you just feel he's owed something.
Lady: Yes! You feel a little bit bad, a little sorry! Such high quality... and yet you can only give +3.

Yuzu's reactions to Nathan's FS at 4CC, feat. Shoma and Patrick. I don't think I've ever seen videos of Yuzu and Patrick exchanging so many words before, between this and the Gala.

http://weibo.com/tv/v/EwI6gzXDZ?fid=1034:a4157e8d48726552533df820a6cf1631

Gentle Yuzu :o: and crazy (loving) pelting of random things. They need a canopy around K&C.

Few more selfies from the banquet/4CC. Team Japan photo.

Another picture of the C-fan meet up during 4CC.:

LGC 1.0 Bear~

In recent news: Sendai will be building a monument to honor Yuzu and Shizuka for their OGM's. The ceremony will be held on April 16 and both Yuzu and Shizuka will be there.

Max and Angelo (ESP ITA) did a digest of all the medalists at 4CC. Yuzu's part :)
I don't.... think it's been posted....yet?

Japanese translations by Nymphea

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/69c22484gw1eqty0x0va1g20cc06y7wh.gif
Let's try this Italian --> Japanese --> English translation thing again. Also ^ this gif is gold.

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M: Yuzuru Hanyu getting onto the ice after Shoma Uno. He was aiming for his first 4CC gold here. He was behind a skater from the same country by a few points, but he also intended to go all guns blazing.

A: A skater who exhausts all adjectives

(During performance)

A: Like Uno, he starts the program with the 4L. As in the short program, this was also exquisitely done. Uno might have had a bit more flow coming out of the landing, but Hanyu had more height in his jump.

M: From an extremely difficult entry, with short setup.

A: Yes, the setup was shorter. The 4S was also good. If I had to be picky, the landing was a little heavier than his usual (laughs). Hanyu not only has difficult jumps, he's also the rare skater who puts quality into everything he does. No, you might even say unparalleled.

Another positive point for Yuzuru is that he finally got a level 4 step sequence. And I want you to watch this 3F that is perfectly incorporated in the choreography. A wonderful jump coming out of difficult steps.

The next scene became the key in Hanyu’s program. The element that has so far eluded him this season. The second salchow. This salchow betrayed him in the short, he landed the first one here beautifully, but the second one was doubled again. He added a single loop and left it at that.

M: He had said that he intended to do a -lo-4S as it often happened in practice.

A: I wonder what kept him from doing it?

M: He didn’t have enough speed going into the salchow.

A: So how did he recover? First he did an extraordinary solitary 4T. Then quite a while into the second half, a 3A3T so natural it makes you lose your will to fight. And, here he had originally planned 3A-lo-3S, but suddenly he did a 4T2T combo instead. It’s amazing.

M: And landed with a spread eagle!

A: In order to make it an even nicer jump. But the surprise wasn’t over yet. Here’s the chore sequence. He always does a 3Lz at the end of it.

M: Especially without any setup.

A: That’s right (laughs). I want you to see, after this Ina Bauer that almost spans from one end of the rink to the other, what he does. After the Ina Bauer, “You think I’m going to skate a free program without two triple axels? No way.” Ha ha ha.

M: Exactly 4 minutes 10 seconds had passed since the start of the program.

A: Moreover, it was wonderful, textbook quality!

M: There was a judge who gave it 0 GOE.

A: I saw.

M: Please explain.

A: You can’t explain. That had to have been at least +2, many judges gave it +3. And then there were judges who gave 0 and +1 to a triple axel without any setup, coming straight out of an Ina Bauer.

In any case, with a 2S he got 112 in TES. By changing his layout, he drastically made up his loss and ended up landing three types of quads, four times. Two quad toes and two triple axels in the second half.

M: In other words, positively speaking, this indicates great physical condition. Because you have to be in tip-top condition in order to land a triple axel 4 minutes 10 seconds into the program. Same is true for the last two quad toes. Negatively speaking, he was struggling with the quad sal. For sure he was practicing the new quad, 4Lz, already he was at 60% success rate. Let’s see if there will be a surprise at Helsinki. Some people say there isn’t. But with this performance, there’s a lot that Hanyu and Brian Orser will be able to think about.

A: Yes, I agree. He’s proven that he has the ability to pull off other jumps in different locations in the program. Like the last 3A and the second half 4T2T. But it’s also hard to say for sure. Because early in the season, on quite a few occasions the quad sal had been more stable than the quad loop. Although the situation flipped in this competition, the stability of the jump is probably better seen during training. Not having seen him at practice, it’s hard for us to judge.

M: Plus, by trying more difficult things in practice, he can prepare physically and mentally to do different things in competition. With an extra quad lutz in his free program during practice, the second half becomes kind of an experimental laboratory. So to be honest, I don’t know what to expect at Helsinki.

If, he skates the kind of extreme program he has in his head, and puts in all the elements, he’ll reach a cosmic score. Of course, that depends on physical condition and the possibility that he is human.

A: That’s right (laughs) Here’s the 2S-lo. He gave up on 4S when he decided he didn’t have the speed going in. Although it’s easy to sit here and say, if only he had attached a 3S here. He had the speed for a triple jump. Had he done that, he could have added even more points, these several points that could have changed the result.

M: Even with the recovery, he’s lost close to 10 points. Both 3S and 3Lz were taken out, so it’s about the amount of a 4T or a 4S.

Max and Angelo make me wish I were italian instead of french :laugh:


A wonderful video has just appeared on youtube - it's not new but now it has english subtitles - and it's sweet and hilarious.
Yuzuru behind the stage : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWOzN_7FbiQ

A video of H&L step sequence is out
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cx8jn

Has this video been posted yet? Looks like it was just put up today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMeH9NYzGc

It's a fan cam of 4CC FS 6 min warmup and before FS. So cute how he must give Pooh a squeeze before he starts skating.

New fancams:

FS

EX

Gala finale

Finale men

After finale

Photo time

Victory Ceremony

Practice SP, FS

Warm up + Before FS (different than the one posted above)

added more

Has anyone seen this K&C fan cam yet, after H&L?? AMAZING display of sportsmanship by Yuzu at 3:15 as Nathan is announced, he quite fiercely cheers for Nathan, as if they were teammates. :-O
I know he prefers to win when his competition skates well, you can clearly see it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTM-lQi4SyY



Yuzu left a message for fans via ANA:
\御礼/ 四大陸大会終了後の羽生選手よりメッセージを頂戴しております。
こんにちは。羽生結弦です。大会期間中、たくさんの応援有難うございました。日本から来ていただいた方、海 外の方など多くの応援をいただき大変感謝しています。次の世界選手権に向けて日々練習に励んでいきたいと思 います。

Rough gist (I'm merely studying Japanese so forgive me for any mistakes and please correct any errors, but I tried to phrase it to sound more natural in English):
Good afternoon. This is Yuzuru Hanyu. Thank you for all of the support during the competition. I greatly appreciate the large amount of support from people who came from Japan and all over the world. Next I turn my attention to the World Championships where I plan to put all of my efforts and practice everyday.

...But that one's my favorite too, you could see him flash a smile (at Brian I think?) after 4T2T. The other one I like is from Albina. It's shot from a little higher up, and I'm surprised at just how good it all looks from up top.

When you train under Eteri, your surname is Medvedeva and you've got standards even at the age of 11 !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZsHa2GVQNg
I can't ...she is even doing crossrolls :laugh2:

addition to abundant reason why he is beautiful human being :sad21:
From twitter translation (lol please correct it), when monitor showed supporter banner, Yuzuru nodded to it and say arigatou

Doesn't this costume remind you of some other one? This is coming from the owner of leather!boobskirt, so I believe it's not a coincidence. ;)

Maybe you might be looking for Adrien Tesson. My spirit animal and Master Of All Yuzuru Tributes.

Or maybe Yauhenii Puzanau, another worthy tribute although less spunky.

I can't recall any russian R&J in my archive of homages. :cool14:
 
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How can anyone call this not an improvement https://mobile.twitter.com/pink_giraffe33/status/834175449144057856
He was faster and stronger at 4CC. Look at how he ended his program! His 3A at the end was even bigger than his previous 3A in 3A3T! Watch the fancam!
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https://twitter.com/maimu_mtmt/status/835162180794253312 Photos Yuzu's back. These show the fluidity and flexibility of his back that I really enjoy looking at and drawing or painting.

https://twitter.com/yuzu_sasshi/status/835510466310897664

H&L step sequence into the 3F, from Skate Canada to 4CC edit :luv17:

I can watch this on loop

Swarm of fancams incoming:

SP Warm Up

(SP) - Missing part of it.

After SP + K&C, (2)

FS Warm Up

Before FS

K&C FS

Victory Ceremony, (2)

EX

Gala finale (1), (2)
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Practice:

0214 (SP) (1)

0215 (1), (2), (3), Practice Warm Up

0217 (1), (FS)

0219 (FS), (1), (2)

(SP)

I have found this on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ8MeRgAH9g/. Sorry if already shared but I just couldn't resist 😀

.... Anyway, I uploaded Hungarian Eurosport's SP and LP with English subtitles, if anyone is interested. The quality of the video is awful because I can't download/record the programs from ESP player, but I uploaded it because of the commentary. The older lady is critical about H&L, but at the same time she says that LGC is Yuzuru's very best program from the past 3-4 years, included his LPs. And she says that he might keep Let's Go Crazy for the next season.


 
I just wanted to say, I've been noticing so many new posters who have joined the forum and Yuzuru's fan thread since Decemeber 2016, I would love to also extend my welcome to all of you! teeannroo, NordEsque, Floria, xeyra, Fresca, Yuaz, liha, jinabee, sublimeskating, lilsailor, Sugiady, (gladiolusc, your post count is amazing already!) and I'm sure many more that I have missed. I hope all of you will feel welcome and free to share your opinions. :) Post long and post often. :biggrin:

I don't want to think that he will retire after OG 2018. I just know his existence the end of last year.. I'm so lateeee ;-;
Shh, don't think about the r-word, let's enjoy his skating now. :biggrin: What we do know about him is that he loves skating, it's one of the things that makes him happiest in the whole world, so maybe he will surprise us all, in a good way. :)
 
I just wanted to say, I've been noticing so many new posters who have joined the forum and Yuzuru's fan thread since Decemeber 2016, I would love to also extend my welcome to all of you! teeannroo, NordEsque, Floria, xeyra, Fresca, Yuaz, liha, jinabee, sublimeskating, lilsailor, Sugiady, (gladiolusc, your post count is amazing already!) and I'm sure many more that I have missed. I hope all of you will feel welcome and free to share your opinions. :) Post long and post often. :biggrin:

Shh, don't think about the r-word, let's enjoy his skating now. :biggrin: What we do know about him is that he loves skating, it's one of the things that makes him happiest in the whole world, so maybe he will surprise us all, in a good way. :)

:hap85: Yes! Welcome to all the new posters (and lurkers ;)). Because there are so many of us here, it can sometimes get a little intense with many differing opinions but please don't be scared to post often. :yay:
 
I don't want to think that he will retire after OG 2018. I just know his existence the end of last year.. I'm so lateeee ;-;

He's just thinking about it. From what I understand, after Pyeongchang he's going to weigh up how he feels, how satisfied he is with, if there's anything else he wants to do with his skating, and go from there. I think we'll get at least one more season from him after Pyeongchang but who knows.
I mean, when he says it depends on how satisfied he is the first thing I think is 'but when are you ever satisfied??'
Anyway, even after he leaves competitions, there are ice shows~ He won't simply disappear. He'll be around.

Anyways, on music...I'm not very well versed in music suitable to skate to XD I think something dramatic would be good, as Yuzu is very good at bringing the drama and generally being extra on the ice. I would like something tied with his culture as well? The magic of Seimei was it was very Japanese, had a subtly to it, but also had some drama. The risk is if he does find another very Japanese piece of music with some drama it will be thought of as the second coming on Seimei and constantly compared to it. The Taiko drums could be amazing though.

I do kinda want something sexy for his sp though >> I really enjoy his more fun/lighthearted/sexy programmes, but I dunno if the judges share my liking for them. But what made him stand out so much (to me) at Sochi was how much character and personality he had in his SP (my impression from his sochi sp was he was saying 'i'm young, I'm bendy, I'm cute, I'm hot, I'm talented, everyone is going to love me whether they want to or not' and thus, powerless as I was, i loved him). LGC has it too, I'd love to see that character and high energy for the oly season too. Especially because it's so likely for the olympics everyone else will go for some nice classical music or some warhorse.

I get the impression that they already have some idea of what they will use for the oly season, since Brian said they were saving the best music for Pyeongchang. I'm looking forward to see what they chose.
 
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(my impression from his sochi sp was he was saying 'i'm young, I'm bendy, I'm cute, I'm hot, I'm talented, everyone is going to love me whether they want to or not' and thus, powerless as I was, i loved him).

this describes PW so well lol
 
His 2009 SP was so fun! Really want to see program like this next or a tango.
Mission Impossible II
https://youtu.be/yRrJPn26qBQ?t=51

Love the 2nd half starting
https://youtu.be/yRrJPn26qBQ?t=116

Edit: Whoops should have added this to my previous post.

ehhh continuing of this

Nathan Chen's 2012 Ex costume looks a bit like Yuzu's costume above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLXd-3FyBE

Love the cute arm wave!
https://youtu.be/5XLXd-3FyBE?t=88

Yuzuru was doing Somebody to Love that season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dRG6pqV1mQ

Anyways, I don't think Yuzuru is going to retire after the the 2018 Olympics, since he still wants the 4a.
 
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I wanted to share this cute video abt Yuzuru's TV personality evolution : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZPnQgnn_Bw&spfreload=5
It's eng subbed!

Also, if we're sharing music recs I'll just put this one : https://youtu.be/AXoM20nIcCE?t=2m20s
I haven't even watched this movie, but the OST is really good and I think Yuzuru could pull off this kind of stuff. My starting point is not a good music cut btw, I just shared it bc I thought that part was one of the epic moments.

Edit: Random, but today I was showing two of my friends pictures of Yuz and they were convinced he was wearing makeup because his skin is so nice! :laugh:
 
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In the meantime, last night in Japan 4CC was aired again on a sport channel(Jsport4) with the different commentators,and we all are so delighted at the very nice comments from Sugita-san who is a former figure skater and a long-time international judge.
Did anybody here watch the last night program? I really hope someone will translate all his words to English!

Sugita-san couldn't hide surprise when seeing Yuzu changing his jump layout and said "Not everyone can do such a thing!"
He even said after the scores were shown,"PCS should have been higher. Should be more upper 9s.", and later "I thought Hanyu-sensh had beaten (Nathan)(overall) with that free program."
Also, while seeing the medal ceremony, Sugita-san said something like "OK, let's save the top of the podium for the Olympics." :yes2:

I really don't want to think about re-word. I'm almost sure he will attend 2019 World, but when I imagine myself seeing him in the arena (in my imagination, I will succeed in getting the ticket), I already cry now. Better stop thinking about it.
 
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Anyways, I don't think Yuzuru is going to retire after the the 2018 Olympics, since he still wants the 4a.

Yuzu: I might retire after Pyeongchang....when I can land 4f, 4lz and 4a in competition and officially do ALL the quads and maybe a quint to really mess with the sport before I peace out.
 
In the meantime, last night in Japan 4CC was aired again on a sport channel(Jsport4) with the different commentators,and we all are so delighted at the very nice comments from Sugita-san who is a former figure skater and a long-time international judge.
Did anybody here watch the last night program? I really hope someone will translate all his words to English!

Sugita-san couldn't hide surprise when seeing Yuzu changing his jump layout and said "Not everyone can do such a thing!"
He even said after the scores were shown,"PCS should have been higher. Should be more upper 9s.", and later "I thought Hanyu-sensh had beaten (Nathan)(overall) with that free program."
Also, while seeing the medal ceremony, Sugita-san said something like
"OK, let's save the top of the podium for the Olympics."
:yes2:

I really don't want to think about re-word. I'm almost sure he will attend 2019 World, but when I imagine myself seeing him in the arena (in my imagination, I will succeed in getting the ticket), I already cry now. Better stop thinking about it.

:peace:

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To add some substance to this post :laugh:

Japan aired their CM for Helsinki Worlds.
 
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:biggrin: Or I would put Experience as primary, starting about here: https://youtu.be/_VONMkKkdf4?t=1m59s and make it a very emotionally driven program - more intense in a.... oh I don't know how to describe it - more chasing-kind-of-way I guess? More like attacking the emotionality of the moment? If that makes any sense? :palmf: (would love the strings to lead the momentum) Don't want it to be too sad, just very strong and emotional. And then add Night https://youtu.be/k9NM-yK1C2I as introduction or to make it more of a 'story'? Like aiming for an rawness of emotions with Experience and using Night to mute it a bit and make it more like a narrative?

Edit - sorry changed my mind - much better to start around here https://youtu.be/_VONMkKkdf4?t=1m51s

I'm not even going to acknowledge that Yuzuru might stop skating, we can't all be as strong as you :laugh:

I particularly liked the beginning of 'Life' that sounds almost like a music box, I would start the program with that but only until 0:20 seconds in and then we cut to the string part at 1:03, and then it goes until more or less 2:04 into 'Life', after the build up is done, then Experience could begin probably at the point you mentioned and make the middle until near the end. I don't know how Night could be into that though, maybe as you've said during the beginning together with Life in some point. Though I'm sure that for me the last seconds would be the end of Experience starting at 4:56. :luv17:
But still, I've said I think it has the risk of becoming repetitive and it requires a lyrical skater to make justice to it.
 
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In the meantime, last night in Japan 4CC was aired again on a sport channel(Jsport4) with the different commentators,and we all are so delighted at the very nice comments from Sugita-san who is a former figure skater and a long-time international judge.
Did anybody here watch the last night program? I really hope someone will translate all his words to English!

Sugita-san couldn't hide surprise when seeing Yuzu changing his jump layout and said "Not everyone can do such a thing!"
He even said after the scores were shown,"PCS should have been higher. Should be more upper 9s.", and later "I thought Hanyu-sensh had beaten (Nathan)(overall) with that free program."
Also, while seeing the medal ceremony, Sugita-san said something like "OK, let's save the top of the podium for the Olympics." :yes2:

I really don't want to think about re-word. I'm almost sure he will attend 2019 World, but when I imagine myself seeing him in the arena (in my imagination, I will succeed in getting the ticket), I already cry now. Better stop thinking about it.

yesssss! I read snippets from fans on twitter, loved what I was reading. Fuji coverage was honestly quite meh....
I would love if there's a video source! I would translate (with my terrible Japanese, terrible English XD honestly, people please correct)!
 
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Yuzu: I might retire after Pyeongchang....when I can land 4f, 4lz and 4a in competition and officially do ALL the quads and maybe a quint to really mess with the sport before I peace out.

And he'll never attempt a 4F so he'll never retire :luv17:
 
A bit late, but about the CBC commentators.

Not-live viewing/comments are usually very far from good, and definitely never as engaged as live. It's not only the CBC that is guilty of this.
When commentators already know the result of the competition, ir have seen the programs, it takes away a lot of the genuine feelings that you get during livestreams.

I once watched the BESP guys doing that kind of comment, and honestly, it was just boring and uninteresting, considering they usually are among my favorite commentators, that says a lot.

Nothing will ever beat a proper live commenting ;).
 
Well received LP by the public usually has this kind of construction : starts a bit strong, slows down in the middle, and end with a climax/highlight. It was like that for RJ1, Seimei, even his POTO. I would say most well-known LP was constructed like this, by most skaters.

Anyway, if I were to give a suggestion, he can't make everyone happy with his layout and music choice. With seimei, there are still people complaining that the program is a back-to-back jumping fest in the second half, which is why in HnL he slipped in CSSp + ChsQ before he jumped the 3Lz. But then there are also complaints that because he still has a jump after the Chsq, his execution of Chsq became more restrained/reserved in HnL. So, I'd rather he choose music and layout that he is comfortable with, like, and can connect, be it a warhorse or not.

P.S : Personal choice, I would love to see him skate to the accompaniment of traditional Japanese string instrument like he did at the beginning of his Change ex program. It is engaging but gives out a different feel and impression than Seimei. It could climax at the end with the addition of taiko and flute too.

Seems like these past 2 seasons he is into doing a program with Japanese influence, so it would be nice to consider. ;)
 
I would suggest Wagakki Band then. They have a fantastic blend of shigin (trad Japanese singing), shakuhachi, shamisen, koto, taiko, electric guitar, bass and Western drums, and they do an exceptional job in fusing rock and pop with traditional Japanese music.

I recommend
Strong Fate: https://youtu.be/VQpGROZC0qg

Akatsuki no Ito: https://youtu.be/UE12dw7AnJo

Nijiro Chouchou: https://youtu.be/Xf3ZSOMJxQU

These guys are good on recordings but even better live! You need to watch their MVs (esp Senbonzakura) and their concert recordings on YouTube to know what I mean.
 
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