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narcissa said:
Oh my god I can never get over how hot he looks with just a normal tshirt (or white dress shirt) and black pants (or jeans). I'm so used to seeing him in all black (practice clothes) or something frilly/sparkly/colorful. Or a suit, which is hot in a different way. Here he's like a really, really attractive but normal person. Damn.
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He can wear anything and look good. Even with the Xylitol Fashion Debacle his smile comes to the rescue
 
Brian Orser's chat with Ice Talks, here is the link: https://t.co/fGD70ao6Sw

Japan Times has published a sum up the part about Yuzuru:
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Talking it out: Speaking of Orser, he was a recent guest on Ice Network’s “Ice Talk” podcast with host Nick McCarvel and had some very revealing comments on his relationship with Hanyu.

Orser spoke at length about the demands of stardom on Hanyu, the “disconnect” he and the superstar had before Skate Canada, and Hanyu’s technical aspirations. It made for some very interesting listening.

“I think that a rise to stardom would be overwhelming for anybody, as it was for Yuna,” Orser told McCarvel. “We have a little bit of experience with that because I have never seen anything like that before. Now it is happening again with Yuzu. The Japanese hold these athletes up on such a giant pedestal, so they have a huge amount of pressure to continue to perform and skate well for their fans, and that’s life.

“We have those conversations with Yuzu. We can say, ‘We went through this with Yuna and this is what we did and this is what she did and this is what her people did.’ “

Orser believes that Hanyu is boosted by the awareness of what his team has been through in the past.

“I think he takes a little bit of comfort in knowing that we have been there before, even as athletes,” stated Orser. “Tracy (Wilson) was an Olympic medalist. I was an Olympic medalist. So we can actually say, ‘I know what you feel.’ “

Orser admitted that Hanyu’s level of celebrity is something that is hard to fathom at times.

“I am a little bit overwhelmed, too, with the level of stardom and what it is now requiring, especially for Yuzu,” Orser commented. “He needs to have a couple of people (in Toronto) for security and he needs people to help him organize. There is my team at the rink, but then there is a whole other satellite of another team that helps with Yuzuru to try to make his life easier.”

Orser said that his two prized pupils are individuals in their own way.

“I think he (Hanyu) is very private. Javi and Yuzu are two different people completely,” Orser said. “Yuzu’s mom is in Toronto and they have their condo here. They have their life and it is basically skating. He does study. He has some university programs that he is in.”

McCarvel asked Orser about how Hanyu and Fernandez interact.

“They are friendly and it’s geniune,” Orser stated. “They respect each other and I think perhaps because they are in the same boat together.”

The discussion became even more compelling when Orser was questioned about the communication issue between he and Hanyu that was brought up at the NHK Trophy last month.

“I went through a little bit of that before Skate Canada with Yuzuru,” Orser noted. “We had a little bit of a disconnect and we had to sort it out and we did. We got together and we had our meeting. We sat across the table from each other in a board room and just said, ‘OK. This is what I’m seeing.’ And then he would say, ‘Well this is what I’m feeling.’

“So I said, ‘OK. Good. This is helpful,’ and we just got through it like adults.”

It sounds like the meeting was a fairly serious get together.

“It was with some of his people that advise him, and it was important for him to be there,” Orser recalled. “We just kind of hashed out a few things that we thought that we needed to. Tracy was there. And he wanted to talk, so it wasn’t with a translator, so it took a little extra time. But we have to hear from his heart what he’s feeling.”

Orser said that despite the gravity of the conference, there was no finger pointing.

“There wasn’t anything nasty or mean,” Orser told McCarvel. “It was just communicating. We kind of all got through it and we all hugged and OK let’s move forward, and all of a sudden the skating got better.”

Orser then explained how his philosophy with Hanyu is different now from what it was last season.

“He (Hanyu) of course always wants to skate perfect. There are times of the season where it’s going to be a bit of a challenge because nobody is ready in October,” Orser said. “. . . I’m actually quite satisfied that we are actually building this season and not kind of unloading everything in December, like we did last year. And then all of a sudden everybody is expecting it. . . . So now we are going to just keep building. There are little mistakes along the way, but nothing too major, that you try to build on for the next one.”

Orser was queried about whether Hanyu may soon attempt a quadruple axel.

“Quad axel — you never know,” Hanyu replied. “He has probably the best triple axel on the planet, and technically as well. Could it happen? Probably.”

Orser then praised Hanyu for his fortitude in always trying to raise the bar with bigger challenges and his foresight.

“He keeps upping the ante, which I’m so proud of him for,” Orser said. “We had this discussion this season about the quad loop and I said to him after Skate Canada, ‘You really don’t need to do a quad loop in the short program.’

“No. I need to do the quad loop, and I need to do it now, and I need to make the mistakes now, so that next year I’m not going through this,” Orser said Hanyu told him.

“Which was like Wow. You know what, you’re right!” Orser acknowledged to McCarvel.

“It’s not that important to win Skate Canada, it’s more important to get one more chance at figuring out the quad loop when you’re under pressure and you’re in front of judges, and in front of a crowd. It’s a completely different situation than when you are in a practice session.”

Orser then concluded by saying that a quad lutz could also be in the cards for Hanyu.

“He’s very competitive,” Orser stated. “He has landed some quad lutzes. I’m sure it’s something that’s on the horizon.”

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/.../time-mao-change-direction-give/#.WGLvKctXef2
 
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Meoima said:
Brian Orser's chat with Ice Talks, here is the link: https://t.co/fGD70ao6Sw

Japan Times has published a sum up the part about Yuzuru:
-------

Talking it out: Speaking of Orser, he was a recent guest on Ice Network’s “Ice Talk” podcast with host Nick McCarvel and had some very revealing comments on his relationship with Hanyu.

Orser spoke at length about the demands of stardom on Hanyu, the “disconnect” he and the superstar had before Skate Canada, and Hanyu’s technical aspirations. It made for some very interesting listening.

“I think that a rise to stardom would be overwhelming for anybody, as it was for Yuna,” Orser told McCarvel. “We have a little bit of experience with that because I have never seen anything like that before. Now it is happening again with Yuzu. The Japanese hold these athletes up on such a giant pedestal, so they have a huge amount of pressure to continue to perform and skate well for their fans, and that’s life.

“We have those conversations with Yuzu. We can say, ‘We went through this with Yuna and this is what we did and this is what she did and this is what her people did.’ “

Orser believes that Hanyu is boosted by the awareness of what his team has been through in the past.

“I think he takes a little bit of comfort in knowing that we have been there before, even as athletes,” stated Orser. “Tracy (Wilson) was an Olympic medalist. I was an Olympic medalist. So we can actually say, ‘I know what you feel.’ “

Orser admitted that Hanyu’s level of celebrity is something that is hard to fathom at times.

“I am a little bit overwhelmed, too, with the level of stardom and what it is now requiring, especially for Yuzu,” Orser commented. “He needs to have a couple of people (in Toronto) for security and he needs people to help him organize. There is my team at the rink, but then there is a whole other satellite of another team that helps with Yuzuru to try to make his life easier.”

Orser said that his two prized pupils are individuals in their own way.

“I think he (Hanyu) is very private. Javi and Yuzu are two different people completely,” Orser said. “Yuzu’s mom is in Toronto and they have their condo here. They have their life and it is basically skating. He does study. He has some university programs that he is in.”

McCarvel asked Orser about how Hanyu and Fernandez interact.

“They are friendly and it’s geniune,” Orser stated. “They respect each other and I think perhaps because they are in the same boat together.”

The discussion became even more compelling when Orser was questioned about the communication issue between he and Hanyu that was brought up at the NHK Trophy last month.

“I went through a little bit of that before Skate Canada with Yuzuru,” Orser noted. “We had a little bit of a disconnect and we had to sort it out and we did. We got together and we had our meeting. We sat across the table from each other in a board room and just said, ‘OK. This is what I’m seeing.’ And then he would say, ‘Well this is what I’m feeling.’

“So I said, ‘OK. Good. This is helpful,’ and we just got through it like adults.”

It sounds like the meeting was a fairly serious get together.

“It was with some of his people that advise him, and it was important for him to be there,” Orser recalled. “We just kind of hashed out a few things that we thought that we needed to. Tracy was there. And he wanted to talk, so it wasn’t with a translator, so it took a little extra time. But we have to hear from his heart what he’s feeling.”

Orser said that despite the gravity of the conference, there was no finger pointing.

“There wasn’t anything nasty or mean,” Orser told McCarvel. “It was just communicating. We kind of all got through it and we all hugged and OK let’s move forward, and all of a sudden the skating got better.”

Orser then explained how his philosophy with Hanyu is different now from what it was last season.

“He (Hanyu) of course always wants to skate perfect. There are times of the season where it’s going to be a bit of a challenge because nobody is ready in October,” Orser said. “. . . I’m actually quite satisfied that we are actually building this season and not kind of unloading everything in December, like we did last year. And then all of a sudden everybody is expecting it. . . . So now we are going to just keep building. There are little mistakes along the way, but nothing too major, that you try to build on for the next one.”

Orser was queried about whether Hanyu may soon attempt a quadruple axel.

“Quad axel — you never know,” Hanyu replied. “He has probably the best triple axel on the planet, and technically as well. Could it happen? Probably.”

Orser then praised Hanyu for his fortitude in always trying to raise the bar with bigger challenges and his foresight.

“He keeps upping the ante, which I’m so proud of him for,” Orser said. “We had this discussion this season about the quad loop and I said to him after Skate Canada, ‘You really don’t need to do a quad loop in the short program.’

“No. I need to do the quad loop, and I need to do it now, and I need to make the mistakes now, so that next year I’m not going through this,” Orser said Hanyu told him.

“Which was like Wow. You know what, you’re right!” Orser acknowledged to McCarvel.

“It’s not that important to win Skate Canada, it’s more important to get one more chance at figuring out the quad loop when you’re under pressure and you’re in front of judges, and in front of a crowd. It’s a completely different situation than when you are in a practice session.”

Orser then concluded by saying that a quad lutz could also be in the cards for Hanyu.

“He’s very competitive,” Orser stated. “He has landed some quad lutzes. I’m sure it’s something that’s on the horizon.”

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/.../time-mao-change-direction-give/#.WGLvKctXef2
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I'm glad Yuzuru is very aware and persevered with the 4Lo, the fact that he doesn't stay comfortable can be the difference between keeping his top spot or not, sure it increases his probabilities of getting injured but I think it's worth it.
 
Meoima said:
Brian Orser's chat with Ice Talks, here is the link: https://t.co/fGD70ao6Sw

Japan Times has published a sum up the part about Yuzuru:
-------

Talking it out: Speaking of Orser, he was a recent guest on Ice Network’s “Ice Talk” podcast with host Nick McCarvel and had some very revealing comments on his relationship with Hanyu.

Orser spoke at length about the demands of stardom on Hanyu, the “disconnect” he and the superstar had before Skate Canada, and Hanyu’s technical aspirations. It made for some very interesting listening.

“I think that a rise to stardom would be overwhelming for anybody, as it was for Yuna,” Orser told McCarvel. “We have a little bit of experience with that because I have never seen anything like that before. Now it is happening again with Yuzu. The Japanese hold these athletes up on such a giant pedestal, so they have a huge amount of pressure to continue to perform and skate well for their fans, and that’s life.

“We have those conversations with Yuzu. We can say, ‘We went through this with Yuna and this is what we did and this is what she did and this is what her people did.’ “

Orser believes that Hanyu is boosted by the awareness of what his team has been through in the past.

“I think he takes a little bit of comfort in knowing that we have been there before, even as athletes,” stated Orser. “Tracy (Wilson) was an Olympic medalist. I was an Olympic medalist. So we can actually say, ‘I know what you feel.’ “

Orser admitted that Hanyu’s level of celebrity is something that is hard to fathom at times.

“I am a little bit overwhelmed, too, with the level of stardom and what it is now requiring, especially for Yuzu,” Orser commented. “He needs to have a couple of people (in Toronto) for security and he needs people to help him organize. There is my team at the rink, but then there is a whole other satellite of another team that helps with Yuzuru to try to make his life easier.”

Orser said that his two prized pupils are individuals in their own way.

“I think he (Hanyu) is very private. Javi and Yuzu are two different people completely,” Orser said. “Yuzu’s mom is in Toronto and they have their condo here. They have their life and it is basically skating. He does study. He has some university programs that he is in.”

McCarvel asked Orser about how Hanyu and Fernandez interact.

“They are friendly and it’s geniune,” Orser stated. “They respect each other and I think perhaps because they are in the same boat together.”

The discussion became even more compelling when Orser was questioned about the communication issue between he and Hanyu that was brought up at the NHK Trophy last month.

“I went through a little bit of that before Skate Canada with Yuzuru,” Orser noted. “We had a little bit of a disconnect and we had to sort it out and we did. We got together and we had our meeting. We sat across the table from each other in a board room and just said, ‘OK. This is what I’m seeing.’ And then he would say, ‘Well this is what I’m feeling.’

“So I said, ‘OK. Good. This is helpful,’ and we just got through it like adults.”

It sounds like the meeting was a fairly serious get together.

“It was with some of his people that advise him, and it was important for him to be there,” Orser recalled. “We just kind of hashed out a few things that we thought that we needed to. Tracy was there. And he wanted to talk, so it wasn’t with a translator, so it took a little extra time. But we have to hear from his heart what he’s feeling.”

Orser said that despite the gravity of the conference, there was no finger pointing.

“There wasn’t anything nasty or mean,” Orser told McCarvel. “It was just communicating. We kind of all got through it and we all hugged and OK let’s move forward, and all of a sudden the skating got better.”

Orser then explained how his philosophy with Hanyu is different now from what it was last season.

“He (Hanyu) of course always wants to skate perfect. There are times of the season where it’s going to be a bit of a challenge because nobody is ready in October,” Orser said. “. . . I’m actually quite satisfied that we are actually building this season and not kind of unloading everything in December, like we did last year. And then all of a sudden everybody is expecting it. . . . So now we are going to just keep building. There are little mistakes along the way, but nothing too major, that you try to build on for the next one.”

Orser was queried about whether Hanyu may soon attempt a quadruple axel.

“Quad axel — you never know,” Hanyu replied. “He has probably the best triple axel on the planet, and technically as well. Could it happen? Probably.”

Orser then praised Hanyu for his fortitude in always trying to raise the bar with bigger challenges and his foresight.

“He keeps upping the ante, which I’m so proud of him for,” Orser said. “We had this discussion this season about the quad loop and I said to him after Skate Canada, ‘You really don’t need to do a quad loop in the short program.’

“No. I need to do the quad loop, and I need to do it now, and I need to make the mistakes now, so that next year I’m not going through this,” Orser said Hanyu told him.

“Which was like Wow. You know what, you’re right!” Orser acknowledged to McCarvel.

“It’s not that important to win Skate Canada, it’s more important to get one more chance at figuring out the quad loop when you’re under pressure and you’re in front of judges, and in front of a crowd. It’s a completely different situation than when you are in a practice session.”

Orser then concluded by saying that a quad lutz could also be in the cards for Hanyu.

“He’s very competitive,” Orser stated. “He has landed some quad lutzes. I’m sure it’s something that’s on the horizon.”

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/.../time-mao-change-direction-give/#.WGLvKctXef2[
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/.../time-mao-change-direction-give/#.WGLvKctXef2
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Meoima said:
Brian Orser's chat with Ice Talks, here is the link: https://t.co/fGD70ao6Sw

Japan Times has published a sum up the part about Yuzuru:
-------

Talking it out: Speaking of Orser, he was a recent guest on Ice Network’s “Ice Talk” podcast with host Nick McCarvel and had some very revealing comments on his relationship with Hanyu.

Orser spoke at length about the demands of stardom on Hanyu, the “disconnect” he and the superstar had before Skate Canada, and Hanyu’s technical aspirations. It made for some very interesting listening.

“I think that a rise to stardom would be overwhelming for anybody, as it was for Yuna,” Orser told McCarvel. “We have a little bit of experience with that because I have never seen anything like that before. Now it is happening again with Yuzu. The Japanese hold these athletes up on such a giant pedestal, so they have a huge amount of pressure to continue to perform and skate well for their fans, and that’s life.

“We have those conversations with Yuzu. We can say, ‘We went through this with Yuna and this is what we did and this is what she did and this is what her people did.’ “

Orser believes that Hanyu is boosted by the awareness of what his team has been through in the past.

“I think he takes a little bit of comfort in knowing that we have been there before, even as athletes,” stated Orser. “Tracy (Wilson) was an Olympic medalist. I was an Olympic medalist. So we can actually say, ‘I know what you feel.’ “

Orser admitted that Hanyu’s level of celebrity is something that is hard to fathom at times.

“I am a little bit overwhelmed, too, with the level of stardom and what it is now requiring, especially for Yuzu,” Orser commented. “He needs to have a couple of people (in Toronto) for security and he needs people to help him organize. There is my team at the rink, but then there is a whole other satellite of another team that helps with Yuzuru to try to make his life easier.”

Orser said that his two prized pupils are individuals in their own way.

“I think he (Hanyu) is very private. Javi and Yuzu are two different people completely,” Orser said. “Yuzu’s mom is in Toronto and they have their condo here. They have their life and it is basically skating. He does study. He has some university programs that he is in.”

McCarvel asked Orser about how Hanyu and Fernandez interact.

“They are friendly and it’s geniune,” Orser stated. “They respect each other and I think perhaps because they are in the same boat together.”

The discussion became even more compelling when Orser was questioned about the communication issue between he and Hanyu that was brought up at the NHK Trophy last month.

“I went through a little bit of that before Skate Canada with Yuzuru,” Orser noted. “We had a little bit of a disconnect and we had to sort it out and we did. We got together and we had our meeting. We sat across the table from each other in a board room and just said, ‘OK. This is what I’m seeing.’ And then he would say, ‘Well this is what I’m feeling.’

“So I said, ‘OK. Good. This is helpful,’ and we just got through it like adults.”

It sounds like the meeting was a fairly serious get together.

“It was with some of his people that advise him, and it was important for him to be there,” Orser recalled. “We just kind of hashed out a few things that we thought that we needed to. Tracy was there. And he wanted to talk, so it wasn’t with a translator, so it took a little extra time. But we have to hear from his heart what he’s feeling.”

Orser said that despite the gravity of the conference, there was no finger pointing.

“There wasn’t anything nasty or mean,” Orser told McCarvel. “It was just communicating. We kind of all got through it and we all hugged and OK let’s move forward, and all of a sudden the skating got better.”

Orser then explained how his philosophy with Hanyu is different now from what it was last season.

“He (Hanyu) of course always wants to skate perfect. There are times of the season where it’s going to be a bit of a challenge because nobody is ready in October,” Orser said. “. . . I’m actually quite satisfied that we are actually building this season and not kind of unloading everything in December, like we did last year. And then all of a sudden everybody is expecting it. . . . So now we are going to just keep building. There are little mistakes along the way, but nothing too major, that you try to build on for the next one.”

Orser was queried about whether Hanyu may soon attempt a quadruple axel.

“Quad axel — you never know,” Hanyu replied. “He has probably the best triple axel on the planet, and technically as well. Could it happen? Probably.”

Orser then praised Hanyu for his fortitude in always trying to raise the bar with bigger challenges and his foresight.

“He keeps upping the ante, which I’m so proud of him for,” Orser said. “We had this discussion this season about the quad loop and I said to him after Skate Canada, ‘You really don’t need to do a quad loop in the short program.’

“No. I need to do the quad loop, and I need to do it now, and I need to make the mistakes now, so that next year I’m not going through this,” Orser said Hanyu told him.

“Which was like Wow. You know what, you’re right!” Orser acknowledged to McCarvel.

“It’s not that important to win Skate Canada, it’s more important to get one more chance at figuring out the quad loop when you’re under pressure and you’re in front of judges, and in front of a crowd. It’s a completely different situation than when you are in a practice session.”

Orser then concluded by saying that a quad lutz could also be in the cards for Hanyu.

“He’s very competitive,” Orser stated. “He has landed some quad lutzes. I’m sure it’s something that’s on the horizon.”

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/.../time-mao-change-direction-give/#.WGLvKctXef2
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I think before Hanyu will retire he has every single quads out there :rofl: though some are saying the 4A is impossible...But no one also think that 3A or quads are possible at one point but looked at the Men (senior and junior) now and even a korean junior lady is doing a quad now.
 
Meoima said:
.“It was with some of his people that advise him, and it was important for him to be there,” Orser recalled. “We just kind of hashed out a few things that we thought that we needed to. Tracy was there. And he wanted to talk, so it wasn’t with a translator, so it took a little extra time. But we have to hear from his heart what he’s feeling.”
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Do they usually use translators to communicate or is it just by important meetings(this one being an exception)? It seems like it would be a huge hassle
 
katingunicorn said:
Do they usually use translators to communicate or is it just by important meetings(this one being an exception)? It seems like it would be a huge hassle
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I don't believe they do. Brian was saying when Yuzu first came to him that he didn't know a word he said and would nod yes at Brian's directions and then not do what Brian told him to do :laugh:. But since Yuzu's been learning English it's been much better.
 
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Danibellerika said:
I don't believe they do. Brian was saying when Yuzu first came to him that he didn't know a word he said and would nod yes at Brian's directions and then not do what Brian told him to do :laugh:. But since Yuzu's been learning English it's been much better.
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Didn't Brian say once that he had a translator on speed dial :laugh:?
 
gladiolusc said:
And that Brian came to recognize that if Yuzu's just going "yes, yes, yes" that means he understood 0 of it. XD

Unrelated, https://youtu.be/wZ55x44maQw?t=3m23s ---> his facial expression when he recognized Akiko and the huuge smile he broke into when he started answering :luv17:
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I keep wondering about that though... (Don't take my word for it as like i've said before i haven't taken japanese lessons and i haven't been to Japan, everything is from self study)
I've noticed that the japanese keep saying yes or nodding with their heads when people are talking, and that doesn't mean that they are agreeing, is just to show the person who is speaking that they are listening to them.
Maybe that was the "yes yes yes" that Yuzuru did at the beginning and now that he has been living some time in Canada he doesn't do that anymore when speaking there, which could be interpreted as "yes he finally understands"?

Also isn't that the video where narcissa got her avatar :P? i have the gif of that smile saved on my phone... For science... :)
 
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