Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[mcq]

I mean World's i want him to have another World title! It might be a bit selfish but i really want to hear him being introduced again as the World Champion

It takes Yuna 4 years to regain her world title, and regardless of how adored she is by the skating world (everyone calling her queen yuna remember), she only has 2. I'd love him to have many titles, especially this one in Helsinki, but it has something to do more with how it will help him the next season and how it is proof that whatever method he used for shifting his peaking works.
But at the same time, I find it a bit sad when his own fans think his legacy and legendary status is incomplete or that he is a king without a crown just because he only has 1. I can understand if this is coming from his non-fans. Many legends in the skating world only have 1 world title and/or 1 OGM, like John Curry and Viktor Petrenko. In fact, many OGM doesn't even have a world title, like Kulik, Cousins or Urmanov. It doesn't lessen their legendary status or legacy.

 

[beki]

I just want Yuzuru to be a legend among legends—the first double OGM since Dick Button. Yes, he inspires greed in me

For me, longevity and artistry are the biggest factors in a legacy, because technical achievements will always be supplanted by future competitors as the sport evolves. Still, firsts are nice. We may be taking our cue from him: I think he views his legacy as incomplete right now.

 

[narcissa]

Well he already has a world title (but the sound of reigning Olympic champion is music to my ears already). It'll be great if he'll be World champion again though for me, I really want him to win it all (win 4CC please and of course another Oly )

The phrase "World and Olympic champion" is just music to my ears and I hate that it was only one season! Whatever happens in PC, I want that again for him going into the Olympic season.

Right now he's not the clear favorite going into the games the way Patrick was, which I think is a good thing. If he wins worlds, though, he might be, but I suppose it's inevitable.

 

[Yuzu Beloved Angel]

I've been going through YouTube re-watching Hanyu's skates listening to different commentators (really like the esp ita people, enjoy listening to them properly going through PCS, wish more of their videos were translated), however I found a couple of Swedish untranslated broadcasts (Worlds2012 FS and Worlds2014 SP and FS) - would anyone be interested if I translated them? Don't be afraid to be honest if not They are fans

Welcome! Please, I really appreciate your translation.

My baby, Yuzu. So beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tV5C8h7RR0

 

[nekun]

I want Yuzu to keep LGC sp for the next season and replace 4lo with 4A, lol just for the sake of 'going crazy'
ok, I'm kidding..

but, I just rewatched his LP in 2011 COR, and he was overrotated his 4T? I mean how can he overrotate a quad?? so maybe adding 1/2 rotate for 4A seem possible for Hanyu

 

[Yatagarasu]

Take this with a giant grain of salt but

Yuzu has had multiple clean run throughs and has done a 5 quad program with a 4S at the end (for fun). You gotta love his competitive spirit!!!

https://sportymags.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/yuzuru-hanyu-seeing-the-future/



ETA: The writer says it's not a change of FS.

 

[shiroKJ]

Take this with a giant grain of salt but


https://sportymags.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/yuzuru-hanyu-seeing-the-future/

Lol if last season is any indication, I do not doubt the possibility of this. He also tried the 4S as his last jump during practices (like last season w/ SC and the SP quads.) Just.....please PLEASE don't injury yourself next season Yuzu....my heart is already weak. :sad21:

 

[Yatagarasu]

Lol if last season is any indication, I do not doubt the possibility of this. He also tried the 4S as his last jump during practices (like last season w/ SC and the SP quads.) Just.....please PLEASE don't injury yourself next season Yuzu....my heart is already weak. :sad21:

It's why I posted. We've seen the 4S as the last jump. We've been thinking it's a YOLO for just in case, but who knows why he's been doing it. Maybe with this in mind too. I am resigned to our fate as bald fans. Brian can be the leader of the baldies.

 

[NordEsque]

Okay, so I've translated the SP at Worlds2014 so happy that you guys are interested. Thing is the YouTube video does not allow me to simply add the subtitles, I guess I could just link the video and include the text under? I will do the other two a bit later, have to go to bed soon but if anyone finds a Swedish broadcast feel free to ask me and I'll gladly translate (I can even try to translate Norwegian ones, perhaps perhaps Danish - doubt there are any Danish ones though) :agree:

 

[YuzusHydroblade]

It takes Yuna 4 years to regain her world title, and regardless of how adored she is by the skating world (everyone calling her queen yuna remember), she only has 2. I'd love him to have many titles, especially this one in Helsinki, but it has something to do more with how it will help him the next season and how it is proof that whatever method he used for shifting his peaking works.
But at the same time, I find it a bit sad when his own fans think his legacy and legendary status is incomplete or that he is a king without a crown just because he only has 1. I can understand if this is coming from his non-fans. Many legends in the skating world only have 1 world title and/or 1 OGM, like John Curry and Viktor Petrenko. In fact, many OGM doesn't even have a world title, like Kulik, Cousins or Urmanov. It doesn't lessen their legendary status or legacy.

For me he will always be the number one and the king. The only reason why i might think that his legacy is incomplete is that he is still competing,a dn i know that he can still achieve great things. The King without a Crown thing comes from what happened last year.
Of course i want him to win everything, and i know he has everything to win that world title again. It's not because i don't think he's good enough because he only has one. I want him to be remembered for many great things. Like i said, it might be a bit selfish, but i want to hear that once again Yuzuru Hanyu is the world champion.

 

[Yuzu Beloved Angel]

Take this with a giant grain of salt but


https://sportymags.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/yuzuru-hanyu-seeing-the-future/

I think I'm in a tachycardia ... But I trust him.

 

[Yatagarasu]

I think I'm in a tachycardia ... But I trust him.

I dug up the writer on twitter and the 5 quad thing was just practice. He's not changing his FS to a 5 quad one. I edited up there for the sake of everyone's hearts.

Yet I guess .... but this should help plus clean run throughs of his usual FS is great news!

 

[mcq]

Take this with a giant grain of salt but


https://sportymags.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/yuzuru-hanyu-seeing-the-future/

I won't take it as a grain of salt tbh. We have seen him do 4S as his last jump since NHK. But I am assuming he did 3 4S here and not like do a runthrough with 4Lz (now that would be THE NEWS). In all fairness, unless he can do a -3Lo combo, doing 5 quad LP with 4 type of quads doesn't give much extra point BV wise compared to doing 4 quad LP with 4 type of quad + repeating 3T. :think:

For me he will always be the number one and the king. The only reason why i might think that his legacy is incomplete is that he is still competing,a dn i know that he can still achieve great things. The King without a Crown thing comes from what happened last year.
Of course i want him to win everything, and i know he has everything to win that world title again. It's not because i don't think he's good enough because he only has one. I want him to be remembered for many great things. Like i said, it might be a bit selfish, but i want to hear that once again Yuzuru Hanyu is the world champion.

Oh, I see. It is not like he stops progressing, so I think he's still aright I know worrying is a natural part of being a fan, but if I were to be a honest, several skaters are in a worse position than him and he still has plenty hidden in his pockets. I still think his health is the major part of everything, doing all the things he has to do now required a very fit and healthy physical condition. For now, that is all I'm wishing for him

 

[Pamigena]

Word on the street, huh? 21 Jump Street? Highway to hell? The Fast and the Furious anywhere in sight?

Well I'm not worried about Helsinki. He'll do fine. Why? Well, because I said so, that's why and no I don't want to be lectured about how reality works, thank you very much. Me and my magic unicorn have decided that Helsinki is going to be great. Period.(and I keep using the popcorn smiley because there's no vodka smiley. No I'm not drunk. Yet.)

 

[NordEsque]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFxm3Hx99hc

Roger Blomquist (male commentator) – Brian Orser standing there, old champion. Nowadays he is coaching Yuzuru Hanyu, Japan’s Olympic Reigning Champion. Regarding the World Championships, bronze in 2012 and 4th last year, second at 4CC twice and Junior Champion once. It is now meant (the plan of Orser and Hanyu) that he is to become World Champion as well, on home turf, in Tokyo. He’s from Sendai, north of Fukushima that in turn is north of Tokyo. (He) has moved to Toronto, Canada to be coached by Brian Orser. ((Yuzuru is in start position))

And now we want you (all) to calm down a little bit so that he is allowed to concentrate ((Pretty sure he is referring to the audience)) Yuzuru… ((Program starts)) Music by Garry More, Parisanne Walkaways”((Yuzuru falls))

Lotta Falckenbäck (female commentator, the more tech-savvy of the two) – Nooo!

RB – And so he falls, the Olympic Champion, with the quadruple attempt!

LF – He was very tilted in the air

((3A))
RB – 3A, really good

LF – Yes, difficult entry on one foot, (with) height, distance… and in the second half of the program… ((Yuzuru setting up for the combination)) as the combination also is…

((Combination))
LF - There it is yes!/Now it clicks! ((bit difficult to translate))

RB - 3Lz+3T, cashing in the points

((Program ends))
RB – Yes… He is swinging with his head a bit because he knows he fell on the quadruple, and that means there are a lot of deduced points of course, -3 GOE from all the judges, as it should be, (from) those nine who are judging… But when I look at the 3A Lotta that is the best 3A that I have seen during (this) World Championship and he gets, very rightly so, +3 GOE from the judges because of that

LF – Ah yes, he also does a difficult entry into the jump, which I hope we will get to see again, when he turns on one foot and then jumps

RB – He gets for example 12.35 for the 3A and what you should all know (viewers) is that the 3Lz+3T, which is the combination jump, gives him 12.41 so it (the 3A) gives him almost as many points. He almost gets as much points for the 3A which is a single jump as he gets for the combination which should tell you all at home how technical difficult/well-executed that 3A is

RB - … And now I think he needs to order two extra bags so that he gets all this stuff home, right? ((Lotta laughs)) Lucky it is not very far from home for him… Brian Orser, satisfied coach… You know Brian Orser have really gotten a lot of good skaters, male and female, to his stable

LF – Yes really, he also had Yuna Kim when she took the Olympic Gold in Vancouver and after that she has left for other places but he has really gotten a lot of great training opportunities where he is in Canada, working together with Tracy Wilson who is an ice dancer

((Re-plays start))
LF - … Now we will have a look at the landing first and foremost… look the blade turns a little bit which means that (the jump) is lacking a little bit and that it is somewhat underrotated. But the axel, look there he is turning on one foot before the he jump ups so really with the exception of the quadruple jump which wasn’t completely right everything else is just fantastic

RB – 101.45 you all heard was the WR that he set at the Olympic Games, the 13th February this year in the SP. He is not getting there today of course… but such a champion like him can afford a mistake I would argue, because he has such good spins, step sequences and good tempo and (is) such a skilled ice skater so he can even due to this break onto the podium with the help of the free skate

LF - That is what makes the difference/is the deciding factor, it is the quality ((she emphasises this word)) of what is executed… And they are not machines - they must be allowed to make mistakes at some point

RB – Yes true, and such pressure he have been exposed to/put under since he became Olympic Champion of course…

((Points revealed))
RB – A 2 appears (2nd place), he beats Verner with about 2 points but is almost 7 behind Machida

 

[Yatagarasu]

I won't take it as a grain of salt tbh. We have seen him do 4S as his last jump since NHK. But I am assuming he did 3 4S here and not like do a runthrough with 4Lz (now that would be THE NEWS). In all fairness, unless he can do a -3Lo combo, doing 5 quad LP with 4 type of quads doesn't give much extra point BV wise compared to doing 4 quad LP with 4 type of quad + repeating 3T. :think:

I edited so you probably didn't see. She says it's just practice. I've given up slightly on why he does what he does. Could have even been a stamina practice, that's all.
Honestly I was really happy to hear he's doing clean run-throughs of the usual 4, as that means the 4S combo too.

Oh, no idea about the 4Lz, who has twitter? We can ask if she knows
https://twitter.com/won0066

 

[mcq]

I edited so you probably didn't see. She says it's a reliable source but just practice. I've given up slightly on why he does what he does. Could have even been a stamina practice, that's all.
Honestly I was really happy to hear he's doing clean run-throughs of the usual 4, as that means the 4S combo too.

Oh, no idea about the 4Lz, who has twitter? We can ask if she knows
https://twitter.com/won0066

Yes lol I did not see. Anyway, if he actually did clean runthroughs with 4Lz (and 5 quads lol crying) then I would be :giveup:
But you are right, all I want is for that damned 4S3T combo to be landed for now. By the way, I think that user is on GS too with the same username, you can PM her here. She posted in this FF a number of times. I am guessing she might heard the info from skaters who trains at CC

 

[NordEsque]

I dug up the writer on twitter and she says that the source is reliable but that the 5 quad thing was just practice. He's not changing his FS to a 5 quad one. I edited up there for the sake of everyone's hearts.

Yet I guess .... but this should help plus clean run throughs of his usual FS is great news!

Is the 5-quad run-though recent? Or is it from last year's practices? Would be great to hear that he is in such good shape already after the flu

 

[Yatagarasu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFxm3Hx99hc

Ah, this is great, thank you so, so much!

ETA The 5 quad run through is new, now, prior to 4CC

 

[Yatagarasu]

Yes lol I did not see. Anyway, if he actually did clean runthroughs with 4Lz (and 5 quads lol crying) then I would be :giveup:
But you are right, all I want is for that damned 4S3T combo to be landed for now. By the way, I think that user is on GS too with the same username, you can PM her here. She posted in this FF a number of times. I am guessing she might heard the info from skaters who trains at CC

That's why that name is familiar! And luckily I don't have to, we are not the only thirsty people it seems. Someone asked if he did 2 4Lo and she said she doesn't know those details. I am not sure if it is better or worse as my imagination can fly now. I think I'll try and settle for the most benign option of, he was just testing his stamina. Yes :roll9:

Seriously, give us a clean H&L as it is, especially how much the 4S combo has been bothering him and us. That's enough.