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We know only half of what Yuzu does behind Brian's back... This is not some obedient little boy. Back when he first went to Canada to train with Orser, at one point he came back to Sendai, didn't he train his jumps almost exclusively when he'd been told to work on his skating skills? (or was that the over-dramatization of Japanese documentaries?)

They just somehow don't know all that. It's surprising to see how much information doesn't reach them given this information is readily available online. But perhaps not all of them can read in English - let alone understand spoken English - that well. So it's a fairly isolated world...
So then you get charming comments on Russian TV - like when they see Brian and Kikuchi-san hug or shake hands (after the GPF SP, I think) - and then commentators say it's some official representative from JSF. I know they can't know everything about everyone, but it makes one wonder how much you can credit their comments in general after that!
 
I know! I can just see Brian stand at gala practices and shout at Yuzu: "Go and try a few 4S-1L-4S, you lazy boy!"
It's funny, they think Brian is like Mishin in the old days? :scratch3: I wonder why it's so hard for them to understand there are various types of coaching.
 
We know only half of what Yuzu does behind Brian's back... This is not some obedient little boy. Back when he first went to Canada to train with Orser, at one point he came back to Sendai, didn't he train his jumps almost exclusively when he'd been told to work on his skating skills? (or was that the over-dramatization of Japanese documentaries?)

I feel it's partly over dramatization. But to be honest didn't he had less rink time in Japan and even had to train in the middle of the night? Maybe that's why he was focusing so much on jumping during then (apart from the fact he just loves jumping).

I just hope he's not training his ultimate dream the 4A when no one is around to stare him down. :devil:
 
It's funny, they think Brian is like Mishin in the old days? :scratch3: I wonder why it's so hard for them to understand there are various types of coaching.

For them, Brian is a mixture of a FS magician who can produce champions out of nothing plus somehow get top PCS thanks to his own influence. Plus he makes programs which also let his skaters maximise on the layout.
Or reversely, he just lucked out on Yuna, Javi and Yuzu and all his other coaching attempts were a sad failure, so he shouldn't be looked on as a remedy for any ailment.
But anyway, what they don't seem to get is that the coach is not a boss, but a partner in this case. :) It is so funny to see.
I'd be the last person to deny Brian's contribution to his skaters' success, but in case of Yuzu - he doesn't have to be motivated to do stuff. He has to be controlled and channelled, perhaps..
 
Not with Worlds so close! But you bet he is out there throwing 4S-3T, 4Lo-3T, 2S(3S?)-1Lo-4S and 4Lz like crazy.

Yeah he's going to be training all of his backup plans now. Even if he misses the combo of doom, be sure he will tack on the 4S somewhere :laugh:
 
Guys, I'm just either too lazy or too stupid to find out for myself - but did anyone translate the Russian ESP 2015 GPF?
 
I've got the video in my vk.com page, but what I was asking whether anyone back in 2015 translated what the commentators said.
And would anyone mind terribly if I did it one day - if it's not done? I'm horribly bored and miss our boy...

I would LOVE if you did it! :o :o (but I don't know if anyone did that already)

In fact, I was thinking it would be nice if there were a coordinated subbing effort to bring more attention to non-English commentary for our boy.
 
I've got the video in my vk.com page, but what I was asking whether anyone back in 2015 translated what the commentators said.
And would anyone mind terribly if I did it one day - if it's not done? I'm horribly bored and miss our boy...

Oh I understood, but sometimes you can actually find subbed Russian commentary too, especially for older stuff. But alas, no, not for that. And from what I see in the media thread, not here either.

I'd naturally love it if you did and be profoundly thankful! :biggrin:
 
Yeah, in fact, I have half a mind to translate anything that I can lay my hands on. From Russian starting with 2010. Be it complimentary or not!
OK, I'll ask a colleague who's into these things how to sub videos and I might get down to it then. Maybe. :)
Right, I'll translate it then!
Apologies to the person who might well have done it - I'm doing it not because I want to challenge your competence, but because I failed to find a translation of that very commentary. :)
 
In fact, I was thinking it would be nice if there were a coordinated subbing effort to bring more attention to non-English commentary for our boy.

Yes I agree, I have, as you guys know, translated a few Swedish commentaries and I would love to be able to subtitle them on actual videos, I had actually already emailed one person who had put up a video (Yuzu's sp 2016 on dailymotion) though I never got a reply I did find the video on tv4 play (the tv channel's website) so the video is still available so I might just record it myself but there are some channels on dailymotion and youtube that already puts up videos so perhaps to try to get in contact with them? I know youtube has a function that's supposed to make adding subs pretty easy?
 
Yes I agree, I have, as you guys know, translated a few Swedish commentaries and I would love to be able to subtitle them on actual videos, I had actually already emailed one person who had put up a video (Yuzu's sp 2016 on dailymotion) though I never got a reply I did find the video on tv4 play (the tv channel's website) so the video is still available so I might just record it myself but there are some channels on dailymotion and youtube that already puts up videos so perhaps to try to get in contact with them? I know youtube has a function that's supposed to make adding subs pretty easy?

First of all, I'd like to thank all those who have graciously provided English translations of commentaries on Yuzuru's skates. I feel happy and proud when he is appreciated across borders/languages. And now as it's waiting time for Worlds, and if you are not too busy, may I request you to kindly translate this Swedish commentary of Yuzuru's 2012 Worlds LP (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Uf4Lz2rqg)? Thank you so much in advance!
 
First of all, I'd like to thank all those who have graciously provided English translations of commentaries on Yuzuru's skates. I feel happy and proud when he is appreciated across borders/languages. And now as it's waiting time for Worlds, and if you are not too busy, may I request you to kindly translate this Swedish commentary of Yuzuru's 2012 Worlds LP (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Uf4Lz2rqg)? Thank you so much in advance!

Hahaha :laugh2: You have completely caught me out Maria Victoria, I did promise to translate this video awhile ago and I must admit that I kinda lost the link :palmf: and I was perhaps procrastinating a bit...he he he But you know, since you have caught me out I'll translate the video now, though if I die doing so I will keep you all responsible and haunt you all :biggrin: Thanks for the link also :agree: I'll be back soon
 
Yeah, in fact, I have half a mind to translate anything that I can lay my hands on. From Russian starting with 2010. Be it complimentary or not!
OK, I'll ask a colleague who's into these things how to sub videos and I might get down to it then. Maybe. :)
Right, I'll translate it then!
Apologies to the person who might well have done it - I'm doing it not because I want to challenge your competence, but because I failed to find a translation of that very commentary. :)

That would be awesome thank you :hap57:

I have a thing for reactions so all these commentaries would be like heaven for me
 
I'll translate the video now, though if I die doing so I will keep you all responsible and haunt you all :biggrin: Thanks for the link also :agree: I'll be back soon

Like Hamlet's father's ghost? ;) (oops, adjoining country)

Seriously, I missed that post where you promised as I wouldn't want to put a fellow Yuzuru-Federer fan on the spot. Thanks again Nordesque!
 
GPF 2015 SP - Russian EPS

- Yuzuru Hanyu is on the ice. The Olympic Champion, the World Champion. Not the current one – last year he lost to Fernandez. Fernandez will skate after him, but they’re used to skating one after the other – they train together and skate together. Frederic Chopin, a beautiful programme. It was choreographed by one of the most creative choreographers, Geoffrey Buttle, who was also World Champion.
- They’re alike, Yuzuru and Buttle in something – there's a musical phrase and a turn of the head with it. Now it’s the turn of the arm. The harmony of soul and body. Now the spread eagle. (incredulous) Into a spread eagle from a quad. 4T3T. (clearing his throat in disbelief) I think he’s repeating the NHK Trophy pattern.
- His goal is to exceed his own achievements, isn’t it?
- He’s never had such a goal.
- (after Yuzuru had finished) Well, is it a standing ovation? It is! How can you help it!
- We’re on our feet too! 56.66 – now it’s going to be 60! Is it – come on, computer, show us! 59.44 was the (previous) score, 61.59. We’re on the way to a new record, because Yuzuru Hanyu received 106.33 for his SP at NHK Trophy, surpassing his own previous achievement of 101.45 by nearly 5 points. Now his technical score is greater than his result at NHK by 2 points. There wasn’t a gap of two weeks, there wasn’t – I just don’t understand where they’ve kept him, what fridge in Canada Brian Orser kept him in to keep him in this fantastic form. I’m very curious what he does with them on his ice in Canada, Brian Orser!
- I think he just takes them away from figure skating, then he releases them and they just enjoy it.
- That’s why I started arguing with you during the skate – he’s never had a goal to break his own record.
- He didn’t have it before now – he didn’t have a record.
- No, he never wanted to do that. He doesn’t have that as a goal, no! The record was his -101.45! He only had one goal – to become one with music, with the choreographers’ ideas, his coach’s energy and talent so much, to become one with the audience for these 2 minutes 50 seconds and to produce such a gorgeous skate – that’s his goal, so that there was an absolute harmony…
- I think yes, you can’t say he’s trying to surpass some results, he just skates for his own pleasure.
- You can’t skate in this way if all you think about is just results…
- These are not long or high jump competitions – there are lots of jumps and spins…
- Look, there are two quads as a response to Boyang Jin: he starts with a 4S and then does 4T3T combination.
- Just have a look at the exits! And his arms, his arms…
- Exemplary exits! Please show us the exit from 3A, please! That was jaw-dropping – in the second half of the SP at that! There it is! Look – argh, Spanish cameramen didn’t show it until the very end, they get a D for that, they don’t understand the beauty of figure skating. But unfortunately, the time frame allotted for program slo-mo won’t fit all the masterpieces of Yuzuru Hanyu’s SP.
- And what an ending…
- Oh, that’s who is a wunderkind! Not Boyang Jin, but this boy who turned 21 a few days ago.
- And, Andrey, I’ll interrupt you, he always shows – give applause to my coach, not me!
- He does! Well, come on, 108? I’ll take your bets, gentlemen! He had 106.33, I think the final result will be 108, maybe with something else. 110.95!!!
- 110. There you are!
- And now I might agree with you
- And then he’ll have his LP, that’ll be over 340…
- What you said… Now he’s got carried away and wants more… 110.95!
- Now he starts breaking his own records! His own records!
- He couldn’t break that record of his for such a long time!
- He won’t just look at his competitors, he’ll compete with himself now.
- I just don’t want one thing to happen – the thing which happens to wunderkinds – when their fame and success produce so much pressure on them and drain them until they’re empty. That’s the most terrifying thing because…
- Turning them into show people.
- Or that, into show people. But so far Hanyu is the same Hanyu...
- Look, Hanyu cheering for…
- Sure, because it’s the same Yuzuru Hanyu who cheered and supported Javier Fernandez and showing in every way that he has to be Champion! And now he cries to him as always: Go, Javi!
 
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GPF 2015 SP - Russian EPS
- Exemplary exits! Please show us the exit from 3A, please! That was jaw-dropping – in the second half of the SP at that! There it is! Look – argh, Spanish cameramen didn’t show it until the very end, they get a D for that, they don’t understand the beauty of figure skating. But unfortunately, the time frame allotted for program slo-mo won’t fit all the masterpieces of Yuzuru Hanyu’s SP.

Thank you so much! :thank:

I was just talking to a friend about this bit, it cracked me up so much I had to pause the video. He was so miffed about not being able to see that 3A fully :laugh2: But then they gushed about it at NHK too.
Wonderful, wonderful commentary, so great to read it like this especially as I think the main commentator is very, very insightful.
 
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Like Hamlet's father's ghost? ;) (oops, adjoining country)

Seriously, I missed that post where you promised as I wouldn't want to put a fellow Yuzuru-Federer fan on the spot. Thanks again Nordesque!

:biggrin: Love Hamlet ;) and yes, exactly like that

No worries no worries, I enjoy being a bit over-dramatic :laugh: Sorry I thought it came across so I hope you didn't think I was annoyed or anything. And you are very welcome, I'm just about done :agree:

And also to anyone else, I'm very happy to translate so feel free to ask
 
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