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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

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Wow, noticing a pattern that CS students have a liking for languages. Kinda makes sense then that yuzuru might develop an interest given his area of study.
On a related note, I'm trying to figure out how much Korean I would need to learn to not be totally out of my depth in Pyeongchang, can anybody offer any tips?
Mmmm, not sure, I've never been to a country where I don't speak the language, so I'm not really sure what essential phrases are. But it might be good to learn basic Hangul (the writing system) so you can read signs. It's actually a really simple writing system, and depending on how good you are at memorizing it could be learned in an afternoon. Though of course you'd need practice to read it at a good speed. Other than that, you probably want to learn basic phrases such as "Thank you", "Do you speak English?", "Where is ___?" etc. If you have a list of simple phrases I could probably help you translate them, though there's probably also hundreds of online guides for tourists.
 
New episode of Ice Talk ft. Charlie White to comment on Worlds! :yahoo: Something that he said that I loved is that he always tried to find something positive in the interviews even for skaters who had a bad performance. It reminded me of him telling Yuzuru he could still win this (Thanks for that, Charlie!).

Around 20:16, he said Yuzu's FS was his top moment of the event. He said he is just breathtaking, he makes everything seem easy and possible. The way about him is so inspiring he feels like he could run a marathon or land a 4S :laugh: He said the words to describe that FS were "ease and grace".
He said his ability to deal with the pressure and demand for excellence has improved as he's matured. He was very happy for him because he thinks that moment is going to stay with him for a long time, it was special. :yes:
Jackie acknowledged his ability to "figure it out", since he delivered even after he didn't have the perfect practices he had last year.
 
I found Czech commentary for free skate and decided to contribute with translation :) (but my english is not great, so sorry for mistakes)

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/11798806774-ms-v-krasobrusleni-2017-finsko/217471291050007-ms-2017-finsko (geo-blocked)

W(woman): Kateřina Kamberská (Czech international judge)
M(man): don’t know

[before Yuzu starts]
-M: now we are looking forward for the final group, which is according to the new rules divided into 2 halves: at first skaters placed 4-6 in SP and then small-medalist for SP. And from this point of view it is quite unexpected and was one of the biggest surprise of the whole SP, that we’ll be watching Yuzuru Hanyu skating first, who messed up combination with quadruple salchow and fell to the 5th place. But he got two 10’s in PCS nevertheless. Now begins the real fight for medals. We can basically forget what we have seen until now, because now here we have the 6th from another planet (by “another planet” he meant this final group and made mistake saying Yuzu’s 6th and not 5th… or maybe he meant 6th because there are 6 skaters in this another-planet-group? Not sure…)

[Yuzu starts to skate]
male commentator just named every jump

[after 4T]
-M: And Yuzuru Hanyu has just become first figure skater in world figure skating championship history with 3 different types of clean quads in one skate (actually interesting, I didn’t realize it until now… but it seems to be correct, another record for Yuzu :thumbsup: )

[end of skate]
-M: Japanese fangirls are screaming, their darling is enjoying moment of well-deserved applause and I think that this performance scares other spectators and maybe even some rivals as well.
-M:4 quadruple jumps, lot of triple jumps, maximum difficulty in other elements, everything from steps, everything without long set-ups.
-M: Brian Orser is celebrating another triumph.
-W: I thing we have seen the other side of Yuzuru today, because he either completely immerses into the music and maybe makes mistakes, which we saw a little bit in SP, however it wasn’t that bad, but that SP was more emotional, more of artistic presentation and today it was Hanyu, the samurai. He just came to skate cleanly, you could see that right from the start. And I thing that today it wasn’t from the artistic side that good, as we are used to from him. But it still is far better that what we have seen today, you can see that his TES is the same as some other skaters’ total FS score, which is unbelievable and we are still at the beginning of the final group. That skate was really great despite he could be even more artistic, especially him, he can. And I would like to point out that except the quads, he jumps all of his triples from steps and to steps, including axels, that means, that jumps came out of nowhere and one couldn’t really expect them coming. (c'mon, even quads were from steps :hslap: ) So, honor whom honor due.

[sitting in k&C]
M: even for such a champion as Hanyu is, you can see that even for him those 4.5 minutes are very difficult. There will be lots of 10’s in PCS again.

[scores come]
-M:223 points?
-W: that is not even total score
-M: very accurate comment
-M: 223 for FS, 321 in total
-W: that score is really from dreamland

[showing greenroom]
M: here too, everybody lost their words right now
W: and appreciative applause with respect to their rival
M: and also with some fright expression in disbelieve

I’m disappointed that they weren’t exited at all, didn’t really acknowledge his perfect execution nor technique and even complained about the artistic side.
But what really made me mad was what they said after Shoma’s and Javi’s skates. They both would prefer Shoma to win and would give Shoma higher PCS than Yuzu’s (seriously, I’m done :disapp: ) And after Javi finished, male commentator said how sad he is about Javi’s mistakes and that Yuzu’s focused technical style of skating gets maybe too big and not-so-much deserved reward.
This was really disgusting to hear. :disapp: :noshake: :slink:
 
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-M: And Yuzuru Hanyu has just become first figure skater in world figure skating championship history with 3 different types of clean quads in one skate (actually interesting, I didn’t realize it until now… but it seems to be correct, another record for Yuzu :thumbsup: )

Thanks for the translation monidi :biggrin:

However I am afraid that this part is not true and the commentator is not really informed and knowledgeable about this. Boyang Jin was the first skater who landed 3 different type of quads in one skate (Lz, T, S). While Nathan Chen was the first who landed 4 (Lz, F, T, S). Noone yet landed 5 type though :)
 
Hmm, I actually disagree about the artistry. He was calm but it was very complete.

If people don't like him after this it can only be a matter of taste. There's simply nothing more he could do.

I hope I don't mindlessly praise him. I didn't care for H&L before and said so, but my mind is completely changed. If you're immune after THAT performance there's no hope.

I really have no patience for people who push for "masculine" skating. Well, everyone in the men's event is presenting masculine skating. Deal with it.
 
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New episode of Ice Talk ft. Charlie White to comment on Worlds! :yahoo: Something that he said that I loved is that he always tried to find something positive in the interviews even for skaters who had a bad performance. It reminded me of him telling Yuzuru he could still win this (Thanks for that, Charlie!).

Around 20:16, he said Yuzu's FS was his top moment of the event. He said he is just breathtaking, he makes everything seem easy and possible. The way about him is so inspiring he feels like he could run a marathon or land a 4S :laugh: He said the words to describe that FS were "ease and grace".
He said his ability to deal with the pressure and demand for excellence has improved as he's matured. He was very happy for him because he thinks that moment is going to stay with him for a long time, it was special. :yes:
Jackie acknowledged his ability to "figure it out", since he delivered even after he didn't have the perfect practices he had last year.

I really enjoyed Charlie White as commentator and interviewer at the WC. He's kind, knowledgeable, and can critique without being cruel. He should do this all the time.
 
And after Javi finished, male commentator said how sad he is about Javi’s mistakes and that Yuzu’s focused technical style of skating gets maybe too big and not-so-much deserved reward.
This was really disgusting to hear. :disapp: :noshake: :slink:
Let me tell you this, many judges never skate themselves. ;) And many of them still think stiff and rigid upper body is good. It is not dissappointing, it is more like they're not knowleageble enough. They do not get enough training and ISU's system let them off the hook.
Some judges give stupid scores and do not follow ISU rulebook. So this is nothing new, really. ;)
 
yes the commentators are idiotic, 100% agree :biggrin:
but at 2016 WC Boyang got negative GOE for 4L (step out) => not clean
and at this WC Nathan/Shoma/Boyang landed them, but only after Yuzuru
I know, Nathan/Boyang have landed it cleanly before but not at WC and here I think they were referring to clean 3 types and done at WC
 
yes the commentators are idiotic, 100% agree :biggrin:
but at 2016 WC Boyang got negative GOE for 4L (step out) => not clean
and at this WC Nathan/Shoma/Boyang landed them, but only after Yuzuru
I know, Nathan/Boyang have landed it cleanly before but not at WC and here I think they were referring to clean 3 types and done at WC

Ah I see. :)
Well to be frank it is only last season and this season people start having 3-type quad layout :biggrin:
 
yes the commentators are idiotic, 100% agree :biggrin:
but at 2016 WC Boyang got negative GOE for 4L (step out) => not clean
and at this WC Nathan/Shoma/Boyang landed them, but only after Yuzuru
I know, Nathan/Boyang have landed it cleanly before but not at WC and here I think they were referring to clean 3 types and done at WC
I think they're more like idiotic and did not know enough. If I remember correctly, sometimes ago Chinese and Taiwaness fans made fun of a Chinese (or Taiwaness) judge for some stupid comments they made, as if this judge had no basic understanding of skating at all. So :rolleye: I am not suprised anymore when they give more +3 to spread eagle 3A while in reality Counter Turn 3A is WAYYY more difficult. :sarcasm:
 
Yes just announced officially: Yuzuru and Shoma, Wakaba and Mai for the men and ladies WTT entries.
 
yayy
why doesn't japan just give some US ice dancers citizenship
or chinese pairs
then Team Japan for Olympic Team Gold :hap10:
 
Yes just announced officially: Yuzuru and Shoma, Wakaba and Mai for the men and ladies WTT entries.
I don't want to say this but I think WTT is the most useless competition of the season. I don't get why they're so serious about it. They even force skaters to compete there. It's absolutely annoying. But oh well hopefully Yuzuru can turn this into a good experience.
 
Wow, noticing a pattern that CS students have a liking for languages. Kinda makes sense then that yuzuru might develop an interest given his area of study.
On a related note, I'm trying to figure out how much Korean I would need to learn to not be totally out of my depth in Pyeongchang, can anybody offer any tips?

I have been to South Korea a few times, I think those in big cities (Seoul, Busan, Daegu, this is the 3 cities I have been to) can fathom english quite well if you meant just for buying stuff; I barely speak even when making purchase etc. Just use credit card for everything and your life will be at peace because you basically can use them anywhere, even at small food stall. About taxi, they have quite advanced GPS system, as long as you type/write down the address in Korean you will be fine and well. Pyeongchang is different though, heard it is hard to get taxi there and they don't have uber service (there is a korean version of uber but I don't bother). But I went there a few times without learning or knowing a single korean (even until now I do not know a word, I am that bad) and I can get by just fine.
 
I don't want to say this but I think WTT is the most useless competition of the season. I don't get why they're so serious about it. They even force skaters to compete there. It's absolutely annoying. But oh well hopefully Yuzuru can turn this into a good experience.

I think a lot of people would echo your sentiment actually; they send top skaters because it's held in Japan and ticket sales will for sure generate revenue when the big guns are participating.
 
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